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Jimmy carter, I trust the muslim brotherhood.
« on: March 14, 2012, 09:16:16 AM »
Jimmy Carter: I trust Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood


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Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, center, visits a polling site during run-off voting in the parliamentary election in Cairo, Egypt, Tuesday, Jan. 10, 2012. Khalil Hamra / AP







Thu, 2012-03-08 10:55
In the face of warnings by the Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood to tear up the Arab nation’s peace treaty with Israel if U.S. aid is cut, former President Jimmy Carter, the chief negotiator of the 1978 deal, says he trusts the Islamists to do the right thing no matter what. The reason: because they told him so.
In an interview with the nationally-syndicated radio show America’s Morning News, he also raised concerns about Israel’s threat to attack Iran over nuclear weapons. Asked about the direction of the Israeli government headed by Benjamin Netanyahu, Carter said, “He is much more eager to go to war than President Obama.” Carter praised Obama for trying to pull Netanyahu back.

Carter’s comments about the Muslim Brotherhood appear unrealistically hopeful considering the turmoil in Egypt, where the movement controls parliament, and where there is division over the issue of sustaining the old treaty cut at Camp David, Carter’s biggest achievement.

The treaty is considered critical to regional stability, but two leaders from the political arm of the Muslim Brotherhood recently suggested ending it if the U.S. stops making its annual payment of about $1.3 billion in military supplies and $250 million in other subsidies. Egyptians consider the money a payment for keeping the peace.

On Thursday, Carter was interviewed by John McCaslin, co-host of America’s Morning News. Asked McCaslin: “Last year the world watched the Arab Spring descend on Egypt to ouster President Mubarak, and now Islamist parties control 74 percent of the seats in the Egyptian parliament, of which the Muslim Brotherhood, now Egypt’s new power brokers, got 47 percent. Do you now see Egypt moving away from the Egypt-Israel Peace Treaty that you helped broker after the 1978 Camp David Accords?”

Carter, still very active in his Carter Center that promotes democracy and human rights, said no, and noted that he has met with leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood. “They assured me personally and they have made public statements accordingly that they will honor the peace treaty that I helped negotiate in 1979. They know its very important to Egypt to maintain peace with Israel and I don’t have any doubt that they will carry out their promise to me.”
 
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2012, 09:52:46 AM »
Why them muzzie brothers are the most honest folks you'll meet.  and jimmie carter is about the smartest man in the world. ::)
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2012, 10:21:38 AM »
Be careful it wasn't long ago Jimmy Carter was being interviewed and said he was the snmartest president still living. I thought I had missed the passing of 2 Bushes and a Clinton ..........
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2012, 10:22:26 AM »
He is the most naive man I have ever known.  He is honest, but he doesn't know that all men are NOT honest.  Trust but VERIFY.
 
 

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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2012, 10:25:51 AM »
Maybe   he  should   invite  some   over ,   and    have   a   Billy   beer   summit  .   

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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2012, 10:26:52 AM »
He lust over playboy bunnies , don't think that's smart to say where the wife could hear  ;)
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2012, 10:31:25 AM »
Well when he was elected, America wanted honesty after Nixon.  We got it with naivety.  Reagan was the last president who won both times by a landslide.  Bush Sr, could have been re-elected if he didn't push that NWO stuff, and Ross Perot hadn't ran. 

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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2012, 10:43:18 AM »
Before everyone here starts beating up Carter, who on this board has had more direct interaction with Muslim leadership than Carter has? Like him or not he is intelligent and has probably learned a thing or two since the 70s.
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2012, 12:00:07 PM »
I don't need interaction with a group of people that treat there women and children like dirt, behead people that don't agree with their religious beliefs, hide in church's and schools when a real army shows up. And, amazingly, just a couple days after Reagan took office, the hostage's were released. Carter was an idiot then, and he's an idiot now. gypsyman
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2012, 03:24:39 PM »
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Before everyone here starts beating up Carter, who on this board has had more direct interaction with Muslim leadership than Carter has?

 
guzzi. I would think that the answer to that would be pretty obvious, they haven't tried to keep it a secret. The followers and enablers here seem to speak from experience. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2012, 02:12:46 AM »
Before everyone here starts beating up Carter, who on this board has had more direct interaction with Muslim leadership than Carter has? Like him or not he is intelligent and has probably learned a thing or two since the 70s.
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2012, 02:55:31 AM »
If you check the news, members of the Muslim brotherhood, want to send Isreals ambassador back and NOT reckognise Isreal.  They also want to establish Shira law in Egypt.  Hmmm.  Carter is naive.  I commend him on all his good works, like Habitat, but he thinks if he just talks to people, they can be trusted.  Definately not a student of history.  Hitler and Chamberland.  Check to see what is actually going on behind the seens, what they have said before, what they have written in their books or papers.  No one really vetted Obama.  He is "fundimentally changing America" into a socialist state with a stronger than needed presidency and federal government.  Just wait a couple of years and we who see the world from a "Christian World View" will be able to say, I told you so. 

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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2012, 07:54:49 AM »
DIXIE DUDE. Good post Sir, and it's almost on top of us now. Obama is helping his brotherhood to be established and take control all over the muslim world, and in America too. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2012, 03:50:44 PM »
I also trust the Muslim brotherhood.
 I trust them to destabilize any government they disagree with and wish to make the Islamic empire cover from Spain to the Phillipines, to the southern tip of Africa.
I trust them to kill anyone who disagrees with them.
I trust them to impose Sharia law anywhere they can.
I trust them never to be true allies with America.
 

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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2012, 03:57:21 PM »
I don't need interaction with a group of people that treat there women and children like dirt, behead people that don't agree with their religious beliefs, hide in church's and schools when a real army shows up. And, amazingly, just a couple days after Reagan took office, the hostage's were released. Carter was an idiot then, and he's an idiot now. gypsyman

That about sums it up. He also dogs the US when overseas. I have zero use for him. >:(
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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2012, 04:14:26 PM »
I also trust the Muslim brotherhood.
 I trust them to destabilize any government they disagree with and wish to make the Islamic empire cover from Spain to the Phillipines, to the southern tip of Africa.
I trust them to kill anyone who disagrees with them.
I trust them to impose Sharia law anywhere they can.
I trust them never to be true allies with America.

Shu, well-spoken and true, sir.   Yup, Carter and Obama have done more to advance Islam than anyone in modern history.   I wonder how Carter's wife and daughters, and Obummer's wife and daughters, would feel about having to wear burqas and refused the benefits of education.    Yet, they choose to ignore the feudal rules of this medieval cult of death and murder whose prophet and messenger is a pedophile and rapist.

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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2012, 05:51:23 AM »
If you check the news, members of the Muslim brotherhood, want to send Israel's ambassador back and NOT recognise Israel.  They also want to establish Sharia law in Egypt.  Hmmm.  Carter is naive..............

So was it naive or conspiratorial design that put the Brotherhood in charge and do you recall what country was in the forefront to see it done?
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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2012, 06:03:51 AM »
Ole  Jimmy s   got   to   be   pushing   90 .   Can   you   really  put   stock   in   anything   he  says   at   that   age.

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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2012, 07:17:32 AM »
I don't need interaction with a group of people that treat there women and children like dirt, behead people that don't agree with their religious beliefs, hide in church's and schools when a real army shows up. And, amazingly, just a couple days after Reagan took office, the hostage's were released. Carter was an idiot then, and he's an idiot now. gypsyman
I've been around and I can tell you that the abuse of women and children is not something that is unique to one particular culture. Unfortunately it can be found in every country, every church and every school.
 
The difference is that some of your more industrially and technologicaly developed nations are better at hiding their dirty laundry.
 
So many times I hear people voice their opinions as though the U.S. is without "sin" and can do no wrong. I find this quite disturbing. How quickly we forget that not too long ago we were trading slaves and our own government was waging a genocidal war on the indiginous people (men, women ,and CHILDREN of this continent). Is it really possible that we as a nation have "evolved"  to perfection in just a couple centuries. Not likely.
 
As for Carter: well, he may not be the wisest POLITICIAN as honesty is not considered a strong attribute in this arena. But in the midst of the corruption and all the other political and corporate influences that clandestinely work to undermine PEACE and ENLIGHTENMENT in the world for the insatiable aquisition of PROFITS and POWER, the man managed play a key roll in the emergance of peace between two cultures that had been squabling for centuries.
 
I am neither Republican or Democrat, "Left or "Right, "Conservative" or "Liberal". I refuse to limit my continual growth and developement as a human being by limiting myself with such enclosing and classifying lables.
 
I am an individual, and free thinker, veteran, and citizen of these United States that feels there are better ways, and I prefer to represent my nation as one who strives for peace, intellectual growth, empathy, and the passing on of this knowledge to those who have not yet had the opportunity of such privilige, especially here at home.
 
Not the greatest President or smartest politician...no. But Carter did something that the last three administrations have either failed to do, or refused to attempt; and that is help to achieve peace where there was none. I say Carter is a man, he's human, and therefore he's not perfect.
 
I say this in the face of the absurd supposition that many Americans seem to have that we as a Nation are..."perfect". And I say Carter is OK.

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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2012, 07:24:33 AM »
Before everyone here starts beating up Carter, who on this board has had more direct interaction with Muslim leadership than Carter has? Like him or not he is intelligent and has probably learned a thing or two since the 70s.
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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2012, 07:28:59 AM »
Before everyone here starts beating up Carter, who on this board has had more direct interaction with Muslim leadership than Carter has? Like him or not he is intelligent and has probably learned a thing or two since the 70s.
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you wouldn't know it from some of his interviews ...........

Many could say the same of Dan Quayle or George JR.

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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2012, 07:47:37 AM »
Ole  Jimmy s   got   to   be   pushing   90 .   Can   you   really  put   stock   in   anything   he  says   at   that   age.

Too true indeed. But the old guy keeps on movin' doesn't he.

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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2012, 08:01:40 AM »
Before everyone here starts beating up Carter, who on this board has had more direct interaction with Muslim leadership than Carter has?  Nobody on this board, ...but Obama, Osama, Arafat, Khadaffi, Ahmadinijhad and the shoe bomber may have ! 
 
Like him or not he is intelligent and has probably learned a thing or two since the 70s.  Intelligent ? ... a matter for conjecture..   and "learned a thing or two since the 70s"...I doubt it !  ;)   :D   
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« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2012, 08:07:44 AM »
Before everyone here starts beating up Carter, who on this board has had more direct interaction with Muslim leadership than Carter has?  Nobody on this board, ...but Obama, Osama, Arafat, Khadaffi, Ahmadinijhad and the shoe bomber may have ! 
 
Like him or not he is intelligent and has probably learned a thing or two since the 70s.  Intelligent ? ... a matter for conjecture..   and "learned a thing or two since the 70s"...I doubt it !  ;)   :D   
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« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2012, 11:42:28 AM »
Ole  Jimmy s   got   to   be   pushing   90 .   Can   you   really  put   stock   in   anything   he  says   at   that   age.

Since we could not put any stock into what he said when he was younger I would have to say NO!
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« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2012, 12:30:10 PM »
Before everyone here starts beating up Carter, who on this board has had more direct interaction with Muslim leadership than Carter has? Like him or not he is intelligent and has probably learned a thing or two since the 70s.
GuzziJohn

you wouldn't know it from some of his interviews ...........

Many could say the same of Dan Quayle or George JR.
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« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2012, 01:16:44 PM »
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I am neither Republican or Democrat, "Left or "Right, "Conservative" or "Liberal". I refuse to limit my continual growth and developement as a human being by limiting myself with such enclosing and classifying lables.

 
 
So, you have no core beliefs?
Must they be limited to Choice (A) or Choice (B)? My experiences and travels have made my view of humanity and the world more broad than the "Core Values" of just two inherently corrupt political parties.
 
This question takes me back to the film "The Blues Brothers" when the brothers ask the waitress at a rural bar what kind of music was usually played and she responded "Oh, we have BOTH kinds of music, country AND western."  ...how small are the "worlds" of some.

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« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2012, 02:10:47 PM »
This new guy, (finisher) comes on the forum and expresses his views on the topic and as usual there are a couple waiting to personally attack them.Not going to happen! Don't waste your time typing out attack messages. They will just be deleted............BG
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« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2012, 02:49:55 PM »
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Must they be limited to Choice (A) or Choice (B)? My experiences and travels have made my view of humanity and the world more broad than the "Core Values" of just two inherently corrupt political parties.

 
 
No need to limit them.  My core beliefs did NOT come from any political party.  They were a result of a number of things, including how I was raised, my own conscience, books that I have read, interacting with others, etc.  I began developing my core beliefs long before I was old enough to vote.  So, if I find the above statement to be condescending or pandering, I trust you will understand why.  I have yet to find any political party that fully matches my core beliefs.  I can state though that Carter does not come near matching them.
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« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2012, 05:42:47 PM »
This new guy, (finisher) comes on the forum and expresses his views on the topic and as usual there are a couple waiting to personally attack them.Not going to happen! Don't waste your time typing out attack messages. They will just be deleted............BG

Not happening with me.   I am not going to speak for any folks whose ideology lies in the other direction.
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