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Will RP try to cut a deal with Romney??
« on: March 15, 2012, 06:17:52 AM »
     
      YOUR FRIENDS' ACTIVITY  Why Ron Paul May Cut a Deal With Mitt Romney  Time.comBy ALEX ALTMAN | Time.com – 6 hrs ago   
  • SRepublican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, addresses the crowd during the North Dakota caucus Tuesday, March 6, 2012, in Fargo, N.D. (AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast)Enlarge Photo
    Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, addresses the crowd during …
 
  • Supporters of Republican presidential candidate and US Rep. Ron Paul attend a party in Springfield, Virginia in February 2012. Paul has failed to win any of some 20 states which have picked their 2012 election standard-bearer, but vows to keep up his quixotic quest for the White House. (AFP Photo/Alex Wong)Enlarge Photo Supporters of Republican presidential candidate and US Rep. Ron Paul attend a party …
   More From Time.com          For Ron Paul, victory is finally in sight. No, not a swearing-in ceremony next January 20, or even a single statewide win. Halfway through the primary season, Paul has won only a preference poll in the U.S. Virgin Islands, and he is running dead last in delegates among the four GOP candidates for President. He has spent a lot, if not always wisely: the $31.55 he has dropped per vote (more than even Mitt Romney) is a sum that might shock even a Democrat.
But winning the presidency was never Paul's foremost goal, and as he nears the end of his last presidential crusade, he has one more chance to promote his ideas. The Republican race is a muddled mess. Even after his southern losses, only Romney has a real shot at amassing the 1,144 delegates required to wrap up the nomination, and he would then face the task of unifying the GOP's warring factions. Which is why Paul's campaign has sent discreet signals to Camp Romney that the keys to Paul's shop can be had for the right price.
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History suggests the two men are already in cahoots. Throughout the primary, Paul has been Romney's secret weapon. During the 20 GOP debates, Paul attacked Romney's rivals a total of 39 times while sparing Romney entirely, according to an analysis by the liberal group ThinkProgress. Paul leapt to Romney's defense when his tenure at Bain Capital and his taste for firing insurance companies came under attack, and skewered a series of Romney antagonists in TV ads. "He is our deputy campaign manager," jokes one Romney ally.
Paul's advisers bristle at suggestions that the libertarian icon is in league the GOP frontrunner. They say Paul still has a shot at the nomination if he can hold Romney beneath the delegate threshold until Tampa and then force a floor fight that sends delegates fleeing to Paul on a secondary ballot. This may be the company line, but the scenario is improbable enough that even Paul has conceded his "chances are slim."
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Even as they tamp down rumors of a pact, Paul's advisers concede that the friendship between Paul and Romney is the initial step toward a deal. And behind the scenes, discussions between the two campaigns -- as well as initial discussions with the Santorum and Gingrich camps, according to one Paul adviser -- are slowly taking shape.
An alliance could benefit both camps. Paul's support would go a long way toward helping Romney with a bloc of young Republicans who have been turning out in huge numbers for Paul and who otherwise might stay home in November. It might also help Romney grab all of Paul's delegates. Such an arrangement would help Paul get what a Romney ally called "an important speaking role at the convention."
Paul's camp contends he will exceed the 270 delegates Romney garnered in 2008, which earned him an undercard slot on the penultimate evening in St. Paul. Josh Putnam, a political scientist at Davidson College who studies delegate allocation, notes that Paul's campaign hasn't furnished evidence to back up those claims. But he says there is a chance Paul could "completely exploit the system and take delegates from caucus states where there's no written rule to how delegates are allocated." Paul's aides say they expect to win a plurality of delegates in a batch of blue-to-purple caucus states where it failed to win the popular vote, including Iowa, Minnesota, Maine, Nevada and Washington.
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Paul's acolytes insist their man cannot be bought. "Romney wants the ring of power. He wants it so bad," says Doug Wead, a Paul senior adviser. "Negotiating with Ron Paul is very difficult because he doesn't want anything. If he got the ring, he would throw it into Mount Doom."
Maybe so, but at 76, Paul is understandably concerned about the future of his movement. Aides say if Paul can't win the nomination, four legislative priorities would top the Texas Representative's wish list: deep spending cuts that lead to a balanced budget; the restoration of civil liberties; a commitment to reclaim the legislative branch's right to declare war, which it abdicated to the executive branch in recent decades; and reforms that shore up the U.S. monetary system, such an audit of the Federal Reserve or competing-currency legislation. The Texas Representative might also be enticed, says campaign chairman Jesse Benton, by the prospect of serving as a presidential adviser, a Cabinet position for someone in his orbit or "perhaps a vice presidency."
Not for himself, but rather his son. Rand Paul, the junior senator from Kentucky and a Tea Party icon, is expected to launch his own White House bid in 2016. Being on the ticket now -- or even being mentioned for it -- would be a helpful step. Says one Paul adviser: "If you're talking about putting Rand on the ticket, of course that would be worth delivering our people to Romney."
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Romney is unlikely to go for that. At the same time, Paul's backers recognize that selling supporters on an alliance with Romney carries special risks, since Paul's bond with his backers is predicted on his record of principled stands. A pact would have to be done "very cautiously," says Benton. "We wouldn't ask our people to do that if we worried they were just being coopted or that we were in some way selling out."
But it may soon be time for Paul's army to decide if it wants to win or lose in the fall. "There's clearly something going on between the two of them, and that's a very good thing," says David Adams, a Kentucky Tea Party strategist who helmed Rand Paul's Senate primary campaign. "The main goal is stopping this lurch to the left. Mitt Romney and Ron Paul can go a long way toward healing what ails our nation."
With reporting by Katy Steinmetz
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Re: Will RP try to cut a deal with Romney??
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2012, 07:06:09 AM »
that's an interesting piece.  but what about the RP supporters who have vowed not to vote for Romney under any circumstances and accuse him of being no different than obama.
it would sure liven things up here on GBO.
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Re: Will RP try to cut a deal with Romney??
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2012, 07:20:12 AM »
Ron Paul will never endorse Mitt Romney, nor should he.

"... all that nonsense about a Romney-Paul “alliance,” which was just an invention of the “mainstream” media pushed by the Santorum campaign. "

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Re: Will RP try to cut a deal with Romney??
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2012, 07:26:21 AM »
I really hope that RP does not endorse romney. POWDERMAN.  ??? ???
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Re: Will RP try to cut a deal with Romney??
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2012, 07:30:17 AM »
I am a little new to all the political sides and what not.  But from what I have learned, I cannot see RP supporting, endorsing, or doing anything in alliance with Romney.  I would be surprised if he did- but not shocked.  No polititian can be fully trusted.
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Re: Will RP try to cut a deal with Romney??
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2012, 07:34:48 AM »
what deal ? VP , a job that offers less power than he has now ?
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Re: Will RP try to cut a deal with Romney??
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2012, 12:54:03 PM »
 
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what deal ? VP , a job that offers less power than he has now ?
       What power does he have now?  He's a representative that no body votes with.  Not an attack, just an observation.
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Re: Will RP try to cut a deal with Romney??
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2012, 01:10:57 PM »
I wish we'd never hear of either one of the losers again.
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Re: Will RP try to cut a deal with Romney??
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2012, 03:46:52 PM »
I really hope that RP does not endorse romney. POWDERMAN.  ??? ???

I do not see an RP endorsement of Romney.  They are diametric opposites.     Personally, I would prefer to see Santorum as the candidate.  However, I will have to go with the GOP candidate as we must remove Obama from the Oval Orifice.   if Romney is the GOP candidate, I will focus my campaign energies to the GOP candidates for the House and Senate from Florida.  Our Senator up for reelection, Bill Nelson, is a Democrat who is vulnerable to defeat.  He voted for the stimulus, son of stimulus, and grandson of stimulus called Obamacare.     

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Re: Will RP try to cut a deal with Romney??
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2012, 03:50:33 PM »
Santorum is the best choice.
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Re: Will RP try to cut a deal with Romney??
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2012, 04:07:42 PM »
They are supposed to be polar opposites, if they do a deal it would be a low-life deal in my view.
I would like to believe Mr. Paul is genuine, a deal would prove he isn't.
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Re: Will RP try to cut a deal with Romney??
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2012, 05:07:38 PM »
They are supposed to be polar opposites, if they do a deal it would be a low-life deal in my view.
I would like to believe Mr. Paul is genuine, a deal would prove he isn't.

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I'm not worried about it, Ron Paul could have taken the same road as the other candidates and told people what they want to hear. Instead he chose to stick to his guns and try to get his message out at any cost, even if it means losing. I would be extremely shocked if he cut a deal with the Father of Obamacare.
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Re: Will RP try to cut a deal with Romney??
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2012, 01:27:43 AM »
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what deal ? VP , a job that offers less power than he has now ?
       What power does he have now?  He's a representative that no body votes with.  Not an attack, just an observation.

he can work deals for his state and have power in his state . Do folks even remember who VP's were after they leave office ? If they do its because they couldn't spell tater or make bogus clames about building the net.................
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Re: Will RP try to cut a deal with Romney??
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2012, 05:10:15 AM »
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Do folks even remember who VP's were after they leave office ?

 
 
Clearly, those that go on to the big seat get remembered.  Also, think anyone remembers Dick Cheney?
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2012, 06:53:11 AM »
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Do folks even remember who VP's were after they leave office ?

 
 
Clearly, those that go on to the big seat get remembered. Sure we do AS PRESIDENT not vp  ;) Also, think anyone remembers Dick Cheney?

Sure we do he shot a guy didn't he  :o
 
So do ya think Dan Quale or Ed Kennedy will be remember longer ?
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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2012, 07:11:32 AM »
Sad but I don’t see a valid candidate in the entire GOP field, put them all in a bag and shake they up and when you roll it out there still won’t be a good candidate.

My thoughts are it will be another election where we vote for the lesser of two evils, that said, I will vote for anyone who opposes Obama, that POS has got to go!!!

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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2012, 07:19:55 AM »
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So do ya think Dan Quale or Ed Kennedy will be remember longer ?

 
 
 
Hmmmm, comparing a lifetime northeastern senator to a Texas representative?   ::)
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Re: Will RP try to cut a deal with Romney??
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2012, 11:27:27 AM »
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So do ya think Dan Quale or Ed Kennedy will be remember longer ?

 
 
 
Hmmmm, comparing a lifetime northeastern senator to a Texas representative?   ::)
Er, uh... It's been a few days and I never really studied the subject, but I think Dan Quayle was a Senator from Indiana?  Unless you thought Ted Kennedy was the Texas Representative?  In which case, he was a "northeastern senator".

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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2012, 11:33:16 AM »
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Er, uh... It's been a few days and I never really studied the subject, but I think Dan Quayle was a Senator from Indiana?  Unless you thought Ted Kennedy was the Texas Representative?  In which case, he was a "northeastern senator".

 
 
 
Er, uh .... sorry.  I should have made it a bit easier for you to understand.  We were talking about Ron Paul (who is a representative).  Sooooo, when Shootall said "So do ya think Dan Quale or Ed Kennedy will be remember longer ?", I was making the point that he should have compared Dan Quale to a representative, not a lifetime (basically) senator.  You know, kind of like "So do ya think Dan Quale or Don Manzullo will be remembered longer?"  I would say Dan Quale.
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2012, 11:35:45 AM »
I should have made it a bit easier for you to understand.
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Re: Will RP try to cut a deal with Romney??
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2012, 05:16:14 AM »
Who is that Steinmetz( Trans.  stonemason) person that wrote the article?  I see at least one Amber light flashing.
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