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Offline KIMBER45

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What I have learned from the debates.
« on: March 21, 2012, 12:49:53 AM »
If nothing else, the last 6 months of political debate have taught me that as a straight, white, employed, male, I can be confident that NOTHING AT ALL is my fault.  Brilliant!
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Re: What I have learned from the debates.
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2012, 05:25:47 AM »
I wouldn't jump to any conclusions if I were you.  Yeah, I get that you are being facetious, but then maybe you are responsible for the present state of our country if you voted for Obama and company.
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Re: What I have learned from the debates.
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2012, 05:27:20 AM »
I wouldn't jump to any conclusions if I were you.  Yeah, I get that you are being facetious, but then maybe you are responsible for the present state of our country if you voted for Obama and company.
+1 ;D
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Re: What I have learned from the debates.
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2012, 06:08:17 AM »
I wouldn't jump to any conclusions if I were you.  Yeah, I get that you are being facetious, but then maybe you are responsible for the present state of our country if you voted for Obama and company.
Nicely played!  Clever wit combined with factual bite in response to yet another rhetorical drama baiting.

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Re: What I have learned from the debates.
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2012, 07:00:57 AM »
What I have learned ...(I watched every one except the first one)

1. Romney  -  MR. 100% FLIP FLOP. and he gets worse in every passing day and more annoying when he tries to be one of the common folk. His platform provides no specifics. He is certainly for the 1%. Under what little he does publically endorse it's quite apparent the 1% will continue to receive large tax breaks and budgets will continue to be balanced on the backs of the middle class (documented by non partisan research groups posted on another thread in GBO who plowed through the little tax reform proposal he put forth on his website). His Jobs record as Gov in Mass was abysmal. His jobs record at Bain just as bad. Romney will say or do anything to win. He tries to be a camellion with changing positions depending on the audiience he is in front of. I'm nit sure if he really has any true convictions of his own. he always seems to try and respond as a tactician. 

2.Gingrich  -  He is a very good debater however he carries too much baggage, though some of his points in the debates were spot on in my opinion. He is much too polarizing a candidate even within the republican party. I personally do not believe he is a conservative. I believe his positions change at the whim of the highest bidder. He is an opportunist ie: Newt is for Newt . Always has been Always will be, whatever helps him add to his personal wealth. He would have been much better off just admitting he was a lobbyist for Fannie Mae and Freddy rather than trying to split hairs over semantics. I also have difficulty seeing past his moral personal shortcomings (my personal hang-up).

3.) Santorum -  His heart is in the right place and I believe he truly believes what he says. so thumbs up for integrity.
However, I do not want a Theologian and Chief. I want a commander and Chief.  Also if you do not believe in his personal theology, too bad. He is too far right for mainstream America in general election. Additionally his recent views and comments regarding womens healthcare issues has disassociated and alienated himself from mainstream women,  independent voters , and moderate republicans, everywhere outside of his evangelical base.

4.) Ron Paul  -  Was given no respect during the debate cycle. Mainstream media also never gave him respect as he is was and is repeatedly cut off. Perhaps because the bias media views him as irrelevant and so therefore in extension his ideas he is trying to promote must be irrelevant as well. Shame really he is closest to a constitutional values candidate.
Small Gov't , less intrusion, Individual Liberties  etc..

So , What I have learned from the debates was pretty much what I already suspected. The debates just affirmed what I thought true in my opinion. It's your vote, but for me I'll stick with Ron Paul.

These are just my overarching opinions - others are obviously free to disagree and take issues with everything I
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Re: What I have learned from the debates.
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2012, 07:14:51 AM »
I have learned that the media and the party can scare most people into doing things that will accomplish nothing positive and keep the US on the same downhill course with our dual oneparty system, reguardless which supported candidate wins. ear
 
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Re: What I have learned from the debates.
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2012, 07:26:17 AM »
If nothing else, the last 6 months of political debate have taught me that as a straight, white, employed, male, I can be confident that NOTHING AT ALL is my fault.  Brilliant!
Oh ,I forgot to add Republican.
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Re: What I have learned from the debates.
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2012, 07:35:05 AM »
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Re: What I have learned from the debates.
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2012, 07:51:30 AM »
scootrd,  maybe this is one of the reasons RP is ignored.
http://www.conservativesnetwork.com/2011/12/06/ron-pauls-latest-ad-on-fiscal-sanity-is-a-total-lie/

I don't think anything in that article has anything to do with Ron Paul's lack of support. The fear of Obama being elected again is the lever  used by the Republican party to influence conservatives. I think Obama will win reguardless of which Republican "supported" candidate gets the nomination. The chosen candidates appeal to the big money big government Republicans and can't pull all of the undecided fringe of common citizen and young voters. Youth hasn't been tainted by the power of the party yet and traditional little guy conservatives see the frivolity of electing the Republican choices. ear
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everyone hears but very few see. (I can't see either, I'm not on the corporate board making rules that sound exactly the opposite of what they mean, plus loopholes) ear
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Re: What I have learned from the debates.
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2012, 07:55:10 AM »
Here is what I have learned-If Obama and ObRomney are the best of the best that this nation has to offer then were are in serious trouble.
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Re: What I have learned from the debates.
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2012, 07:58:14 AM »
Here is what I have learned-If Obama and ObRomney are the best of the best that this nation has to offer then were are in serious trouble.
the best candidates are no longer in the race.
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Re: What I have learned from the debates.
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2012, 09:16:42 AM »
well after 30  years of dumbing down America what do ya expect ? No more  Regan's to get us and the world straight
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Re: What I have learned from the debates.
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2012, 09:39:54 AM »
If nothing else, the last 6 months of political debate have taught me that as a straight, white, employed, male, I can be confident that NOTHING AT ALL is my fault.  Brilliant!
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Re: What I have learned from the debates.
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2012, 12:39:01 PM »
What I've gleaned from the debates is that those who are left in the Republican contest have been there and done that and they're still standing--warts and all.  Since there is no one who could possibly run this gauntlet of a vetting process without getting walloped a few times, I have respect for all of them.  None of them were my first choice, but any of them would be so much better than what presently obtains in the position they seek--of that I am absolutely sure.
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Re: What I have learned from the debates.
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2012, 03:54:12 PM »
If nothing else, the last 6 months of political debate have taught me that as a straight, white, employed, male, I can be confident that NOTHING AT ALL is my fault.  Brilliant!
Oh ,I forgot to add Republican.

You didn't forget, you aren't one. ;D
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Re: What I have learned from the debates.
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2012, 03:55:23 PM »
I wouldn't jump to any conclusions if I were you.  Yeah, I get that you are being facetious, but then maybe you are responsible for the present state of our country if you voted for Obama and company.

How sweet it is! ;D
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Re: What I have learned from the debates.
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2012, 03:08:29 PM »
What I have learned from this and every other political campaign is that whenever a jackass begins to bray he will be answered in kind by every other jackass in hearing distance. There has not been an intelligent political campaign in this country in modern times. That goes for both parties.
 
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Re: What I have learned from the debates.
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2012, 03:09:43 AM »
What I have learned from the debates is, Romney flip flops faster than a hamburger in a burger joint, only one step above-below- Obama. Santorum would be my choice at this time. And the way things are going, he looks like his chance's are pretty slim. gypsyman
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