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« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2012, 10:54:06 AM »
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What happened is the republican party became less conservative to get some votes from less conservative people.

 
 
Chicken or egg.  It still boils down to fewer conservatives in this country now.
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« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2012, 10:54:42 AM »
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I was with ya there...right up until you wrote that you would vote for a different socialist. :'(
Unfortunatly the lesser of two evils.
Of the Mit Vs Obama clearly Mit will follow the constitution, Obama has said he will skirt the constitution and has multiple times.
I can only inamgine what Exucitive orders he will sign in his second term or what he will do in the time bewteen being voted out in November and the swearing in in January. 
While I think Sen. Paul has some good ideas on domestic policy I know his forgien policy is dangerous.  I think his policy would knock us down in the world ranking, it will open us and our allies up to attack and would not support him in a primary, if he somehow becomes the candidate I would vote for him over Obama. 
Between a three way Paul, Mit and Obama with Paul as a 3rd party, I would hold my nose and vote for Mit.
Do I want someone else, Yes  Do I feel anyone other than Obama would turn our economy around, yes.  Would I vote for a conservitive all day long.
What gets me is the Democrats are supose to be for the "working man" but they oppose building, mining, drilling , refining, manufacturing, and shipping, all woking class Union Jobs. And use an out of control EPA and energy department to close those jobs under cleaner air and water mantra. 
Again if we had a media that told the truth, rather than repeated leftist talking points we would be a better country.

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« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2012, 11:28:38 AM »
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Interesting! SO if Obummer wins will y'all vote a true conservative next time, or will y'all continue down the same path of voting for the lesser of two evils?

 
CUTS. I will vote for anybody I feel can win and beat obama. I will vote for  Santorum, I don't like romney but will vote for him if he gets the nod. To vote for RP or gingrich at this point would be tossing my vote away. I want my vote to count. The next president will be a dem or a rep. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2012, 11:51:42 AM »
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With the choice between Oboma and Mitt I will sit on the sidelines with the other millions of Americans who refuse to vote for less of to evils.

 
By doing that you will help put the illegal kenyan back in office. At least if we vote for romney it is a vote AGAINST obummer. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
I will vote for who I want, if I vote. So they best get on there game or they are going to have MILLIONS OF PEOPLE SITTING OUT THIS ELECTION. Just the way it is gona be.

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« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2012, 11:51:54 AM »
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Interesting! SO if Obummer wins will y'all vote a true conservative next time, or will y'all continue down the same path of voting for the lesser of two evils?

 
CUTS. I will vote for anybody I feel can win and beat obama. I will vote for  Santorum, I don't like romney but will vote for him if he gets the nod. To vote for RP or gingrich at this point would be tossing my vote away. I want my vote to count. The next president will be a dem or a rep. POWDERMAN.  :o :o

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« Reply #35 on: March 25, 2012, 11:58:12 AM »
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With the choice between Oboma and Mitt I will sit on the sidelines with the other millions of Americans who refuse to vote for less of to evils.

 
By doing that you will help put the illegal kenyan back in office. At least if we vote for romney it is a vote AGAINST obummer. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2012, 12:00:54 PM »
Third party candidates are spoilers..nothing more..
The 3rd party has came a long way in the last five years.

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« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2012, 12:05:56 PM »
Well...........it is becoming increasingly obvious that this is NOT a two party system, in fact it's not really a system in which one can make a real choice...you may either vote for the Democratic parties system of socialism, OR you can vote for the Republican parties system of socialism.

Anyone who argues for true freedom of choice is derided and belittled. The "conservatives" here will simply not support a constitutionalist, nor will they stand up and fight for true freedom. They just demand that everyone vote in lock step for whatever socialistdemolib they have had foisted on them by the media and the political machine.

The truth is, there is no real difference between O'romney & Romabama, not where it really counts! ::)

Oh.........wait....there is a difference.........Romney can't win! That's why the media focuses on him!

But then, true freedom is terrifying to most apparently. Much like the Constitution most seem to think they can't live under it's original intent anymore. :'(
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« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2012, 12:10:55 PM »
When   one-third  of   the   House &  Senate  become   third party ,  then   you   might   have  a  third   party   president.
Well until then, you will see this country like last election 50%-50% divided country. Now you take in to the account of MILLIONS more sitting out on voting day which way will it swing? I bet the Liberal win the WH again in 2012 and maybe in 2016 also. More and more have lost faith in the system, every year. Just the way the ball bounces I guess.

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« Reply #39 on: March 25, 2012, 12:15:19 PM »
Well if some of you republicans think a third party will split the vote then I say you all better jump out of your party and make the numbers bigger in the third party
No they would rather vote for a liberial like Mitt. ;)
 
Well if people think Mitt "less of 2 evils" is going to win "maybe" why has there been a run on the guns, ammo, reloading stuff 9 MONTHS before the election? Ruger stop taking gun orders, which made history.

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« Reply #40 on: March 25, 2012, 12:22:22 PM »
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Interesting! SO if Obummer wins will y'all vote a true conservative next time, or will y'all continue down the same path of voting for the lesser of two evils?

 
CUTS. I will vote for anybody I feel can win and beat obama. I will vote for  Santorum, I don't like romney but will vote for him if he gets the nod. To vote for RP or gingrich at this point would be tossing my vote away. I want my vote to count. The next president will be a dem or a rep. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Well with the ecomony picking up Oboma is up 15% in the polls due to more people working and if that keeps up, Mitt has NO chance in winning the WH. Because many people have been out of work for a long time and just getting back to work. In there mind is why change anything. 98% of people hate change and if things are rolling along good and money is coming in now, why risk that with voting someone new in.
Need to think like the average voter out there.
 

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« Reply #41 on: March 25, 2012, 12:33:22 PM »
There is a reason the republicans lost control to democrats in the first place is because the republicans turned their backs on conservatives and became weak and blended in with democrats.  This left conservatives with no place to go.  Why blame them for the republican party falling apart?   Then they say conservatives need to "fix" the republican party.  Oh, great...the reps are taken over with progressives now it's up to us to vote for them and fix it after that?  Somehow I don't see the logic here.  Why don't republicans stop slapping around the conservatives here and fix their own party and give conservatives somewhere to go, instead of blaming them for democrats being in control all these years? Independence used to be a good thing in this country.  Now the republicans tell us it's our fault the other side is in power.  Well it's not.  It's their own fault.  Trying to push people to vote a certain way by blaming them for the republican mess is not going to work either.  We didn't screw that up...we just watched it happen and feel like walking away. The reps need to earn votes, not try to scare people into voting.  Some of us don't scare all that easy anymore.

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« Reply #42 on: March 25, 2012, 12:45:54 PM »
There is a reason the republicans lost control to democrats in the first place is because the republicans turned their backs on conservatives and became weak and blended in with democrats.  This left conservatives with no place to go.  Why blame them for the republican party falling apart?   Then they say conservatives need to "fix" the republican party.  Oh, great...the reps are taken over with progressives now it's up to us to vote for them and fix it after that?  Somehow I don't see the logic here.  Why don't republicans stop slapping around the conservatives here and fix their own party and give conservatives somewhere to go, instead of blaming them for democrats being in control all these years? Independence used to be a good thing in this country.  Now the republicans tell us it's our fault the other side is in power.  Well it's not.  It's their own fault.  Trying to push people to vote a certain way by blaming them for the republican mess is not going to work either.  We didn't screw that up...we just watched it happen and feel like walking away. The reps need to earn votes, not try to scare people into voting.  Some of us don't scare all that easy anymore.

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Yep , Romney will never get my vote. He has not earned it nor could he ever. RINO .
I am tired of voting this lesser of two evils crud.

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 For all you Mitt voters. Why should people vote for Mitt? He has no time on the National stage, the world stage.  Hell Palin has more time in them than Mitt does in the National stage an the world stage.
 
What Mitt has already done in his state, is what Obama wants to do to the rest of the US. Where is there any difference at?

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« Reply #43 on: March 25, 2012, 01:02:07 PM »
For all you Mitt voters. Why should people vote for Mitt?
 
 
If romney gets the nomination, a vote for anybody else, or a non vote, will be just like voting for obummer. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #44 on: March 25, 2012, 01:12:44 PM »
For all you Mitt voters. Why should people vote for Mitt?
 
 
If romney gets the nomination, a vote for anybody else, or a non vote, will be just like voting for obummer. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
northkid says we need to stand up, while he sits down and allows obama to appoint as many as three SCOTUS judges.  that'll do much more harm than a romney presidency.
I guess he wants a liberal (RP) who spends my money and then lies about it.
Paul is a white obama.  they both talk a good game, but go behind your back and pile on the pork.
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« Reply #45 on: March 25, 2012, 01:14:59 PM »
For all you Mitt voters. Why should people vote for Mitt?
 
 
If romney gets the nomination, a vote for anybody else, or a non vote, will be just like voting for obummer. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
I sure hope you don't use that same quote when trying to entice someone to vote for Mitt. That answer there means you have NO idea who or what you are voting for others than a name..
I am sure you will not change many peoples mind with that quote.
 
 
Maybe this country needs 4 more years of Obama  and maybe , maybe they will wake by the end of his 2nd term.

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« Reply #46 on: March 25, 2012, 01:26:24 PM »
For all you Mitt voters. Why should people vote for Mitt?
 
 
If romney gets the nomination, a vote for anybody else, or a non vote, will be just like voting for obummer. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
northkid says we need to stand up, while he sits down and allows obama to appoint as many as three SCOTUS judges.  that'll do much more harm than a romney presidency.
I guess he wants a liberal (RP) who spends my money and then lies about it.
Paul is a white obama.  they both talk a good game, but go behind your back and pile on the pork.
Yep me an the other 10,000,000+ people, if that is what happens so be it, This election may have a record amout of people sitting on the sideline, do some checking on it, it may wake you up....Last time I checked, RP, and all the Republicans candidate are not socialist like Obama and Mitt.   I also seems that many of you Mitt guys have an issuse with the presidents race, maybe, just seems a bit of bitterness there?
 
You have some legitimate data to back up your claim about RP. Obama and Mitts votes are very easy to get and are everywhere they don't like guns and YOU WILL BUY the health care they offer and like it. ;D

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« Reply #47 on: March 25, 2012, 01:26:30 PM »
For all you Mitt voters. Why should people vote for Mitt?
 
 
If romney gets the nomination, a vote for anybody else, or a non vote, will be just like voting for obummer. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
I sure hope you don't use that same quote when trying to entice someone to vote for Mitt. That answer there means you have NO idea who or what you are voting for others than a name..
I am sure you will not change many peoples mind with that quote.
 
 
Maybe this country needs 4 more years of Obama  and maybe , maybe they will wake by the end of his 2nd term.
I really think Powderman knows all about every candidate.  all the info is out there.
but I have pointed out Pauls liberal pork spending many times and his supporters do nothing but tear down everyone else.   Romney is a much better candidate for the working man.
Romney has done some stupid things, but like my man Reagan, he is changing.
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« Reply #48 on: March 25, 2012, 01:30:46 PM »
For all you Mitt voters. Why should people vote for Mitt?
 
 
If romney gets the nomination, a vote for anybody else, or a non vote, will be just like voting for obummer. POWDERMAN.  :o :o

They are twin sons from different mothers.
Just cause someone claims to be conservative does not make it so.
Romney has an abysmal gun record, Jobs record ,  and no integrity whatsoever.
His proposed tax reform plan is more of the same even more breaks for 1% and increased taxes on the 99% (numbers proven by independant studies). Mr flip flop says anything to anybody to get elected.
Don't even try and take a stand there is a difference  -  There is no difference.   RINO.
So a vote for Mitt is a vote for status quo.

cast your vote however you please , as long as you sleep well at night.
As for me , this time round , I have drawn my line in the sand.  Time to make a stand.

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« Reply #49 on: March 25, 2012, 01:39:47 PM »
For all you Mitt voters. Why should people vote for Mitt?
 
 
If romney gets the nomination, a vote for anybody else, or a non vote, will be just like voting for obummer. POWDERMAN.  :o :o

They are twin sons from different mothers.
Just cause someone claims to be conservative does not make it so.
Romney has an abysmal gun record, Jobs record ,  and no integrity whatsoever.
His proposed tax reform plan is more of the same even more breaks for 1% and increased taxes on the 99% (numbers proven by independant studies). Mr flip flop says anything to anybody to get elected.
Don't even try and take a stand there is a difference  -  There is no difference.   RINO.
So a vote for Mitt is a vote for status quo.
you just made my point about not owning up to Pauls shortcomings.
and you can include Paul in that RINO category.  think about it.
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« Reply #50 on: March 25, 2012, 01:47:10 PM »

you just made my point about not owning up to Pauls shortcomings.
and you can include Paul in that RINO category.  think about it.

Sorry Buggy but I have stated in the past that Paul is not perfect. However he IS a consitutionalist, which is far better than O'romney & company, and his behaviour regarding pork is much better than the bunch of socialistdemollibs running against him.

Try the shotgun approach next time the sniper thing isn't working for you.
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« Reply #51 on: March 25, 2012, 01:50:03 PM »
For all you Mitt voters. Why should people vote for Mitt?
 
 
If romney gets the nomination, a vote for anybody else, or a non vote, will be just like voting for obummer. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
I sure hope you don't use that same quote when trying to entice someone to vote for Mitt. That answer there means you have NO idea who or what you are voting for others than a name..
I am sure you will not change many peoples mind with that quote.
 
 
Maybe this country needs 4 more years of Obama  and maybe , maybe they will wake by the end of his 2nd term.
I really think Powderman knows all about every candidate.  all the info is out there.
but I have pointed out Pauls liberal pork spending many times and his supporters do nothing but tear down everyone else.   Romney is a much better candidate for the working man.
Romney has done some stupid things, but like my man Reagan, he is changing.

I never said I was Ron Paul supporter (if on the ticket for the 3rd party or R ticket I would vote for him) . Romney has no track record, he went from Republican to a Democrat and now back to a Republican, his dad was born in Mexico, how will that play out with immigrations/illegals?
 
Look what I keep seeing at the top of the GBO pages Ron Paul 2012. ;)
 

 

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« Reply #52 on: March 25, 2012, 02:01:36 PM »

you just made my point about not owning up to Pauls shortcomings.
and you can include Paul in that RINO category.  think about it.

Sorry Buggy but I have stated in the past that Paul is not perfect. However he IS a consitutionalist, which is far better than O'romney & company, and his behaviour regarding pork is much better than the bunch of socialistdemollibs running against him.

Try the shotgun approach next time the sniper thing isn't working for you.
that is the absolute most that anyone will say about him.  even most democrats don't lie about their pork spending.
I don't like liars.  if a person will lie about one thing, he will lie about anything.
my main concern right now is the SCOTUS.  we can't let obama appoint judges.
old Newt is a friend of ours, but I'll be the first to say that he'll lie to advance himself.
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« Reply #53 on: March 25, 2012, 02:12:51 PM »
A little background on Mitt
 
Check, the bills he signed, the gun bans, the health care bill "$2000" fines for people, I have heard that fine cost from someone before.
 
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Governor Romney has a solid record of pursuing gun control measures to control crime and increase safety. He is vocally supportive of the assault weapons ban, supported a waiting period, and supports registration. While Governor he continued Massachusetts's history of gun control advocacy.
In 2002, Mitt Romney stated in a debate that he supported the tough gun laws in Massachusetts and that he believed they help protect us and keep us safe. He vowed not to chip away at those laws.
While in office, Governor Romney supported the Brady bill and a waiting period because it was necessary to complete a background check. More recently, he has stated that with the advent of instant background checks, a waiting period is no longer required.
He stated that his views did not line up with the NRA. After initiating his Presidential campaign in 2007,Governor Romney joined the NRA with a lifetime membership. (Why in 2007 did he join, why 1990??)
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 n April 12, 2006, Governor Mitt Romney, of Massachusetts, signed the most significant bill of his career: a law requiring every citizen in his state to buy health insurance.

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« Reply #54 on: March 25, 2012, 03:43:35 PM »
WHICH  THIRD PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I LIKE THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY
they are the  MOST freedom oriented
i was a party member for 20 years
40 years  of trying  and they never made it.....got a few congresasional seats
WE DO HAVE A SMALL SEAT FILLED  IN DUVAL COUNTY....''soil and water''




MOST HERE WILL PREFER THE CONSTITUTION PARTY
very  pro-freedom.... unless your a woman with an unwanted pregnancy
they couldn't EVEN get their man on the ballot in 24 states  last election


THE REFORM PARTY
ross perrot was the  FORTH man on the ballot once.......libertarian was the third man that year
they  even had a governor elected
flash in the pan....they are all but history.........2 registered in  my county


THE GREEN PARTY
they helped us defeat owl gore in florida a few years back.....look it up


people seem  to forget
those running in the general election
were chosen during the primaries
ONLY THE  DEM AND REP PRIMAIES MATTER



when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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Re: Third-Party Candidate Could Rise Due To Voter Dissatisfaction
« Reply #55 on: March 26, 2012, 04:33:31 AM »
Government, both parties, is building it's own voteing constituantcy to maintain it's self,
3 minutes and 40 secounds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=xOAgT8L_BqQ&feature=player_embedded
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everyone hears but very few see. (I can't see either, I'm not on the corporate board making rules that sound exactly the opposite of what they mean, plus loopholes) ear
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Re: Third-Party Candidate Could Rise Due To Voter Dissatisfaction
« Reply #56 on: March 26, 2012, 04:53:25 AM »
After reading some of the posts in this thread I'm convinced we will have the pleasure of looking at pictures of Obama and his lovely  :P wife spending four more years in the White House living a life of luxury courtesy of the taxpayers while the country slides slowly on down the tube.

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Re: Third-Party Candidate Could Rise Due To Voter Dissatisfaction
« Reply #57 on: March 26, 2012, 05:07:16 AM »
After reading some of the posts in this thread I'm convinced we will have the pleasure of looking at pictures of Obama and his lovely  :P wife spending four more years in the White House living a life of luxury courtesy of the taxpayers while the country slides slowly on down the tube.
well, you may be old, but you're certainly not slow,  you see the big picture.
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Re: Third-Party Candidate Could Rise Due To Voter Dissatisfaction
« Reply #58 on: March 26, 2012, 09:28:50 AM »
well, you may be old, but you're certainly not slow,  you see the big picture.
OH! OH! OH!!........I see it too! O'romeny or Ramabama...... :o
 
Socialist gun grabber........or Socialist gun grabber :P
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Re: Third-Party Candidate Could Rise Due To Voter Dissatisfaction
« Reply #59 on: March 26, 2012, 09:39:37 AM »
well, you may be old, but you're certainly not slow,  you see the big picture.
OH! OH! OH!!........I see it too! O'romeny or Ramabama...... :o
 
Socialist gun grabber........or Socialist gun grabber :P
oldandslow is a smart man.  anyhow, the NRA and other gun groups would hold Romneys feet to the fire.
obama, being satans brother, won't be affected by the fire.  plus we all heard on the news today that obama would have more flexibility in his second term.  meaning, he will fulfill all the promises he made to anti-gun, pro-abortion and other evil entities.
like I said, oldandslow is a smart man.  those who can't see the big picture will be allowed to plead ignorance after our guns are confiscated.
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