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« on: March 26, 2012, 11:42:28 AM »
Mother: Police in Fla. demonizing slain son   Associated Press Posted on March 26, 2012 at 3:01 PM
Updated today at 4:31 PM        SANFORD, Fla. (AP) — Trayvon Martin had been suspended from school for marijuana when the unarmed teenager was shot to death by a neighborhood watch volunteer, a family spokesman said Monday.
Martin, 17, was suspended by Miami-Dade County schools because traces of marijuana were found in a plastic baggie in his book bag, family spokesman Ryan Julison said. Martin was shot Feb. 26 by George Zimmerman while he was visiting Sanford with his father.
Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, and family attorneys blamed police for leaking the information about the marijuana to the news media in an effort to demonize the teenager.
"The only comment that I have right now is that they killed my son and now they're trying to kill his reputation," Fulton told reporters.
The Sanford Police Department insisted there was no authorized release of the suspension information but acknowledged there may have been a leak within the agency. City Manager Norton Bonaparte Jr. said the source of the leak would be investigated and the person responsible could be fired.
"We do not condone these unauthorized leaks of information," Bonaparte said.
Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump said the link between the youth and marijuana should have no bearing on the probe into his shooting death. State and federal agencies are investigating, with a grand jury set to convene April 10.
"If he and his friends experimented with marijuana, that is completely irrelevant," Crump said. "What does it have to do with killing their son?"
Also Monday, the state Department of Juvenile Justice confirmed that Martin does not have a juvenile offender record. The information came after a public records request by The Associated Press.
Zimmerman, 28, claimed he shot Martin in self-defense and has not been arrested. Because Martin was black and Zimmerman has a white father and Hispanic mother, the case has become a racial flashpoint that has civil rights leaders and others leading a series of protests in Sanford and around the country.
The Orlando Sentinel reported Monday that Zimmerman told police he lost Martin in the neighborhood and was walking back to his vehicle when the youth approached him from behind. The two exchanged words, Zimmerman said, and Martin then punched him in the nose, jumped on top of him and began banging his head on a sidewalk. Zimmerman said he began crying for help; Martin's family thinks it was their son who was crying out. Witness accounts differ.
The Sanford police statement said the newspaper story was "consistent" with evidence turned over to prosecutors.
In another development, city officials named a 23-year veteran of the Sanford police department as acting chief. The appointment of Capt. Darren Scott, who is African-American, came days after Chief Bill Lee, who is white, temporarily stepped down as the agency endured withering criticism over its handling of the case.
"I know each one of you — and everyone watching — would like to have a quick, positive resolution to this recent event," Scott told reporters. "However, I must say we have a system in place, a legal system. It may not be perfect but it's the only one we have. I urge everyone to let the system take its course."
Professional football players Ray Lewis and Santonio Holmes are joining civil rights leaders Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton at a rally in Sanford later Monday. Also joining the rally are comedian Sinbad and leaders from the Urban League and ACLU.
Commissioners with the city of Sanford will also meet Monday for the first time since they gave Lee a no confidence vote.
Martin's parents plan to address them. The meeting was moved from City Hall to the Sanford Civic Center to accommodate the expected large crowd.
Martin was returning to his father's fiancee's home from a convenience store when Zimmerman started following him, telling police dispatchers he looked suspicious. At some point, the two got into a fight and Zimmerman pulled out his gun.
Zimmerman has not spoken in public about the shooting. His lawyer, Craig Sonner, has denied there was any racial motive in the shooting.
A man identified as a friend of Zimmerman said Monday the neighborhood watch volunteer would tell the teen's parents he's "very, very sorry" if he could.
Speaking on ABC's "Good Morning America," Joe Oliver said George Zimmerman is not a racist and has virtually lost his own life since the shooting.
"This is a guy who thought he was doing the right thing at the time and it's turned out horribly wrong," Oliver said.
On NBC's "Today" show, Oliver said he had spoken with Zimmerman's mother-in-law, who said Zimmerman was remorseful.
"I learned that he couldn't stop crying for days after the shooting," Oliver said.
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Re: Mom says police demonizing my son.
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2012, 12:03:30 PM »
Sharpton want Zimmerman arrested. Stiring the pot. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
 
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2012, 02:34:18 PM »
Didn't Jesse Jackson make sure he was out in front of the cameras demanding "justice" when the Duke lacrosse players were falsely accused of rape? How did that fiasco turn out? I didn't hear him suggesting the system was biased when it turned out that the prosecutor was proven to be crooked. Was that a hate crime? The accuser was black and the victims were white. I'm sure she described the boys that she claimed raped her as white so it must have been racially motivated. Isn't that a hate crime?

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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2012, 02:45:11 PM »
Didn't Jesse Jackson make sure he was out in front of the cameras demanding "justice" when the Duke lacrosse players were falsely accused of rape? How did that fiasco turn out? I didn't hear him suggesting the system was biased when it turned out that the prosecutor was proven to be crooked. Was that a hate crime? The accuser was black and the victims were white. I'm sure she described the boys that she claimed raped her as white so it must have been racially motivated. Isn't that a hate crime?
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2012, 02:55:22 PM »
Thats the reality of interacial crime today.  It's obvious Zimmerman more than likely messed up big time.  I am sure he is quite sorry for his actions and knows he is going to have to face the music.  But that isnt enough for a radicals like Sharpton and Jackson and Farrakon.  They JUST HAVE to throw out the race card.  They want to make it out to be something more than what it is.  Question:  Who's fault is it that the race card is so well played in America today?  Answer:  White politicians.  We are our own worst enemy for bowing down to the crap in the first place.
 
It really sucks what Zimmerman did.  It's going to do nothing but bring heat to gun owners.  It will raise controversy if the shooting was racially motivated (christ, blacks have rioted for less than this).  And it could bring on all kinds of restrictions on Neighborhood watch organizations.
It's all a hot mess...........

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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2012, 04:15:46 PM »
Thats the reality of interacial crime today.  It's obvious Zimmerman more than likely messed up big time.  I am sure he is quite sorry for his actions and knows he is going to have to face the music.
Yep, almost certainly.
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It really sucks what Zimmerman did.  It's going to do nothing but bring heat to gun owners. 
That's a liklihood, and I don't like it. It's also going to be used to wedge  between black people and gunowners, something WE DO NOT NEED. Various yahoos calling 'bring it on!' to a race war don't help. When it comes to 2nd Amendment rights, it pays to be the adult, and to make common cause whenever possible, not to alienate.
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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2012, 04:26:11 PM »
I wish the pundants, lawyers , 24 hour news cycle, family members , friends , teachers , and anyone involved just stop talking, leaking information and stop trying to tri this case in the court of public opinion.

Everyone just needs to take a deep breath and tone it down. One boy is dead , and the freedom of another persons life is at stake. The general public and the media need to let the investigators and grand Jury just do their job. if after the investigation it is determined the man should be indited,  I sure hope a media gag order is issued to all parties by a presiding judge.
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2012, 02:09:09 AM »
So from what I have read/heard the guy sucker punched the other guy then jumped on him and started to beat him. The guy getting beat feared for his life and used his weapon to stop the attack. Wittensses confirm this and injuries also support it.
So if true the cops should have presented these facts and get on with life. But in the best possible imitation of liberalism the crisis could not be wasted so in swoops the national leaders of the we be offended movement and the rest is history as they say. Justice can't be allowed to get in the way !
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2012, 02:31:35 AM »
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Parents came out and said its not a black -white thing if only the police did their job four weeks ago on that rainy night, but because they didn't the blacks think 'crackerism' is alive and well in Sandford, FL.. Have to admit that a self appointed citizen quard shoots a kid and walks away, doesn't go to hospital for his beat down injuries or contacts an attorney,,,, and the police act like the three monkeys--see, hear, and do no evil... ::)
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2012, 03:12:48 AM »
So from what I have read/heard the guy sucker punched the other guy then jumped on him and started to beat him. The guy getting beat feared for his life and used his weapon to stop the attack. Wittensses confirm this and injuries also support it.
So if true the cops should have presented these facts and get on with life. But in the best possible imitation of liberalism the crisis could not be wasted so in swoops the national leaders of the we be offended movement and the rest is history as they say. Justice can't be allowed to get in the way !
This is the way I understand it. Zimmerman has a defense because it is written into state law. If you arrest your department may face false arrest lawsuits. You can just arrest because the rest of the liberal country dont understand how the law works. Gun laws will be put under a micro scope because of this. Prepare to lose some gun rights guys. Those of you that jumped on the band wagon are to blame for helping push it.

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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2012, 03:14:42 AM »
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Parents came out and said its not a black -white thing if only the police did their job four weeks ago on that rainy night, but because they didn't the blacks think 'crackerism' is alive and well in Sandford, FL.. Have to admit that a self appointed citizen quard shoots a kid and walks away, doesn't go to hospital for his beat down injuries or contacts an attorney,,,, and the police act like the three monkeys--see, hear, and do no evil... ::)
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"           Does the fact that Zimmerman wasn't arrested on the spot mean the cops didn't do their job?
Not at all, its a on going investigation, their could be a arrest later, pending the investigation.

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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2012, 03:26:30 AM »
Thats the reality of interacial crime today.  It's obvious Zimmerman more than likely messed up big time.  I am sure he is quite sorry for his actions and knows he is going to have to face the music.
Yep, almost certainly.
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It really sucks what Zimmerman did.  It's going to do nothing but bring heat to gun owners. 
That's a liklihood, and I don't like it. It's also going to be used to wedge  between black people and gunowners, something WE DO NOT NEED. Various yahoos calling 'bring it on!' to a race war don't help. When it comes to 2nd Amendment rights, it pays to be the adult, and to make common cause whenever possible, not to alienate.
I'm sure it's me you are calling a "yahoo".  sharpton and company have been calling for a race war for years.  if that's what they want, bring it on.  or, we can do like yourself and just surrender to them and start paying reparation.  they don't want equality or justice, just cash.
btw, a black youth in atlanta shot and killed another black youth yesterday.  but I guess that's okay. ::)
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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2012, 04:15:04 AM »
... or, we can do like yourself and just surrender to them and start paying reparation.  they don't want equality or justice, just cash.
I don't believe I've ever advocated that surrender (?) or paying reparations, but maybe I've forgotten where I did. Feel free to provide a link?
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btw, a black youth in atlanta shot and killed another black youth yesterday.  but I guess that's okay. ::)
I wouldn't guess that... do you know anyone who has taken that position?
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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2012, 05:52:10 AM »
Let's see what was this thread about?  ::)
 
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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2012, 06:06:19 AM »
Let's see what was this thread about?  ::)
 
Oh yea "Mom says police demonizing my son." that's what it was.....
yeah, people call you names and away it goes.
demonizing occurs on both sides.  the black panthers demonized Zimmerman without any facts which may get him killed if the cops don't get him first.
I hope it goes to the Grand-Jury pretty quick.
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« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2012, 06:21:36 AM »
Jackson and Sharpton will use anything to incite the blacks and cause racial tensions to rise. If it was a black neighborhood watchman who shot a white drug dealer they would be jumping for joy. They are two of the worst racists the world has ever seen.
 
 
 
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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2012, 06:58:49 AM »
Well mom if they don't tell the truth about your son seems you will have a case ...............and can sue for some money ?
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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2012, 07:03:59 AM »
If it was a black neighborhood watchman who shot a white drug dealer they would be jumping for joy.
Well, we sure can't know that... such a suggestion is about as credible as some of Sharpton's Greatest Hits.


I saw this, and liked it...
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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2012, 07:20:50 AM »
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btw, a black youth in atlanta shot and killed another black youth yesterday.  but I guess that's okay. ::)
I wouldn't guess that... do you know anyone who has taken that position?

The way the media covers these things they imply that they are taking this position. As long as the aggressor is black it gets little to no attention.
 
One could argue that this media coverage is supreme racism because by giving black on black or black on any other race crime little to no coverage is implying that this type of behavior is either OK or is to be expected from them.
 
Either that or the media attempts to incite race riots in instances of white on black crime so they will have another "hot" story to cover.
 
 
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btw, a black youth in atlanta shot and killed another black youth yesterday.  but I guess that's okay. ::)
I wouldn't guess that... do you know anyone who has taken that position?

The way the media covers these things they imply that they are taking this position. As long as the aggressor is black it gets little to no attention.
 
One could argue that this media coverage is supreme racism because by giving black on black or black on any other race crime little to no coverage is implying that this type of behavior is either OK or is to be expected from them.
 
Either that or the media attempts to incite race riots in instances of white on black crime so they will have another "hot" story to cover.
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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2012, 07:46:49 AM »
[font=]Much of the information that hit the web this morning paints a totally different picture of Martin than the liberal media tried to project. it makes Zimmerman's position of self-defense look stronger.[/font]   This whole thing is just a case of Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson stirring the pot to agitate the black people, they will keep adding crap until the blacks want to riot. 

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« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2012, 07:57:43 AM »
mom is getting coached ?
 
 
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« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2012, 08:24:10 AM »
The way the media covers these things they imply that they are taking this position. As long as the aggressor is black it gets little to no attention.
MORE TO IT than simply racial ID of victim/perp... this story war orig about a guy apparently shooting an unarmed kid, and the cops not doing anything about it. Now, it is looking like there's a lot more to it than that all-too-convenient narrative - gun-grabbers are going to stir the pot, too - we'll see how it plays out. How'd you like my picture? ;)
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« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2012, 08:28:04 AM »
so the guy who gets attacked is expecter to take one for the gun team and let the kid beat him to death ?
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« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2012, 08:34:46 AM »
so the guy who gets attacked is expecter to take one for the gun team and let the kid beat him to death ?
Huh? Did someone suggest that?
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« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2012, 08:41:29 AM »
The way the media covers these things they imply that they are taking this position. As long as the aggressor is black it gets little to no attention.
MORE TO IT than simply racial ID of victim/perp... this story war orig about a guy apparently shooting an unarmed kid, and the cops not doing anything about it. Now, it is looking like there's a lot more to it than that all-too-convenient narrative - gun-grabbers are going to stir the pot, too - we'll see how it plays out. How'd you like my picture? ;)

How are the cops not doing anything about it? Even if he had been arrested he would probably be free on bond right now. Just because the media and all of the  race pimps all say Zimmerman is guilty doesnt mean jack squat. The case is going to grand jury. Zimmerman is going to have to make his case in a court of law.
 
Maybe the cops should have lynched Zimmerman on the spot?
 
...But you still failed to address the media bias. Why is it that white on black violence erupts into a nation wide near riot but black on white violence gets nary a passing mention?
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« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2012, 08:44:53 AM »
Well it was posted that the guy shot an unarmed kid and the cops did nothing about it . Well if it was self defense there is nothing to do RIGHT ? So yea it would seem my statement is a good ?
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« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2012, 09:06:25 AM »
How are the cops not doing anything about it?
If you're addressing me, specifically.. I don't know. Bear in mind I have not claimed the cops aren't doing anything, only that THAT was the story.
 
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Maybe the cops should have lynched Zimmerman on the spot?
I suppose they could have. Has someone suggested that they should have done so?
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...But you still failed to address the media bias.
did you not see the pic I posted? whaddya want for 'address'?
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Why is it that white on black violence erupts into a nation wide near riot but black on white violence gets nary a passing mention?
My guesses, without challenging your premise, would be: 1) it doesn't offen result in nationwide near riot; 2) Black on white violence is common, and cops usually are perceived as being all over that... those would be my guesses. yours?
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« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2012, 09:36:50 AM »
mom is getting coached ?
Ever think that mom and dad are in shock. I know I would be. Let's not be too judgemental over what these grief stricken parents are saying.
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« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2012, 10:23:11 AM »
mom is getting coached ?
Ever think that mom and dad are in shock. I know I would be. Let's not be too judgemental over what these grief stricken parents are saying.
They are in a bad situation where they didn't play the race card but its getting played for them. They no doubt are in a tuff spot. But that dosen't hide the fact they are getting coached , If I were them I would look for help . I didn't say good or bad coach , you must assume they got negative coaching .
If I had said something that was judgemental you might have a case I did not ! As for shock you assume that . Nither you or I know about his record or if the parents considered  he was a good or bad kid or expected the worst or was shocked.
If ya can see it ya can hit it !