Softest 130gr 270 bullet

[Muddly]

My 111 Savage .270 Winchester shoots unreasonably well (for a bone stock  rifle) with loads in the 27-2800 fps range with 130 gr bullets. Loads like this are comfortable and usefull to 300 yards. I do wonder what the softest( or frangible) 130 gr bullet is that is available to reloaders. In other calibers, I've found the Sierra Pro Hunters to be very soft and i wonder if its typical of the Pro Hunter line.She also likes the flat based Hornady 130's too.I want a bullet that will go in and wreck a deer's chest. Most of my hunting is done this side of 200 yards and the vast majority of the time 100 is quite a poke. I dont need full throttle loads for this , but I do want the critter DRT or a short distance away... Your thoughts are greatly appreciated!

[spinafish]

the Nosler Ballistic Tip and the Berger Hunting bullets are what you are looking for!

[Land_Owner]

If you reload, do not discount the "premium" Nosler Partition.  Grain for grain it is probably the hardest hitting, most energy dissipating, least meat destructive bullet on the market that will pass through leaving an entrance and exit hole every time.  You don't need to "blow up" a deer's chest to drop it in its tracks.  You do need an energy dissipating bullet and the correct bullet PLACEMENT.  Failing the latter, it doesn't matter what bullet you use. 

The Partition, in 150 grains, is my Go To .277" diameter bullet in a Winchester Model 70 Classic Featherweight that doesn't tolerate much by way of other Mfg. bullets for accuracy.  The 150 grain  Nosler Ballistic Tip is more acurate, but expands and sheds its exterior copper jacket throughout the deer and meat.  The Partition doesn't do that. 

Everything herein is as applicable to the 130 grain Nosler bullets.  I just prefer the 150 grain.

For plinking and target practice, may I recommend Speer bullets.  They're cheap to shoot a lot.  Then, shoot groups with only a few of the Partitions and keep the rest for hunting.

[PS]  I have shot Speer Grand Slams and they don't drop deer DRT.  I have shot a lot of Speer, Hornady, and Sierra bullets through the 270.  My Winchester prefers the Partition and the Ballistic Tip by Nosler.  I prefer the Partition.  Find what your rifle likes to shoot accurately and then PLACE your shot.  Deer are NOT difficult to kill.

[Muddly]

I am a firm believer in shot placement and energy dump. I usually hunt with a T/C Black Diamond XR and am regularly astonished at the damage a 250 gr  45 cl Hornady XTP at a muzzle velocity of 1550 fps can do... My center fire experience ranges from the.270 Win, 30-30, 7.5x55 , 300 Savage,.308 Win,303 British and 45-70. last year I bought this 270 and popped a deer with it at 75 yards. The damage was quite extensive, but the muzzleloader actually did more damage and left the largest exit hole i've ever seen. I believe that how fast and effectively a bullet transfers it energy to the critter, the more effective it will be. Ever notice how some calibers or loads are effective far out of proportion to their velocity/energy stats? I believe it is due to bullet construction. for example, a 150gr pointed .30 bullet has to work in rounds from the 300 Savage to the 300 Weatherby. Its going to be too tough for some and too soft for others. But a flat nose 150 30 cal is designed for the 30-30 and has to work in a much more specific velocity range. My desire for a softer 130 gr 270 bullet is so i can maximize the energy transfer( power dump) to the critter. I believe matching a bullet to its proposed velocity is at least if not more important to matching it to the game intended. Dont care what youre shooting with it, if you push it too fast( or slow) it will fail. Exceptions made for varmints of course. Fog and fur can be most satisfying... 

[charles p]

When you shoot a deer in the ribs, no two are alike.  Some fall DRT and some run a ways.  A heart shot is the same.  Now when you shoot a deer high on the shoulder or in the neck near the spine, there is no variation at all in the performance.  Bang flop.
My 270 likes Sierra 140 grain bullets.  I didn't even know I had any.  Thought I was loading Game Kings in 130.  They shot very well.  Turned out I had two boxes of 100.  I have never fired a 150 grain bullet in a 270, nor anything lighter than 130.
I agree that Sierra flat base bullets are excellent for deer.  So are CoreLokts.  I can't tell the difference at the range or at the cleaning shed.
 

[BBF]

 Winchester Power Points !

[bilmac]

Is Remington still making the bronze point? It used to be a grenade in 270 cal. The Nosler ballistic tip seems to be much like the bronze points, but I don't have as much experience with them because as soon as I decided they were similar to bronze points I quit shooting them.

[Don Fischer]

I've never tried the Sierra Pro hunter's. Back in the late 60's and early 70's I tried Sierra hunting bullets and they were way to soft for me. I've heard that the Pro Hunter's aren't as soft. I suspect that bullet's like the Hornady SST with the plastic tip might act softer than it is. That tip has to go somewhere and the only way for it is right into the core. The Nosler Balistic Tip got a lot of bad press from people that say it would blow up on contact. I don't know if thet was true or not but a lot of people shure thought so. Since then they were supposed to have fixed whatever it was and the new one's are supposed to be fine.
If you want to go in and wreak the chest, speed up the bullet. Stay with the soft one and speed it up.

[swifty22]

Muddly- I would use the Speer 130 FB cause it will expand well, hold together and make a leaky hole out the other side as sometimes you need good penetration as well as expansion, and they are inexpensive. Another bullet that I have heard good things about at moderate vel. is the Sierra 110 SP.,  also there is the Horn. 150 RN. BTY how did you get the handle "Muddly"? I got named "Muddy" by my mom cause I pretty much was growin' up on a cattle ranch fishing ect. I'm 58 and she still calls me that!-Muddy 

[Siskiyou]

 I believe bilmac is pointing to the right bullet.  I consider the Remington 130-grain Bronze Point to be a very explosive bullet on deer.  My brother, and I had very dynamic kills using the bullet, but we soon become frustrated with it.  We hunted a lot of brush fields and a mortally wounded deer can disappear in the thick stuff.

I started using the 130-grain Bronze Point in my new 270 the fall of 1957.  I am guessing the buck was 30-35 yards away standing.  I seen that he was a legal buck and he stopped with his head and shoulder behind an oak tree.  I put the bullet into his ribs just behind his shoulder.  The buck jumped forward and went 40-50 yards and dropped on a skid road.  He was not going anywhere but a finishing neck shot was required. 
We found fragments of the jacket inside the deer and cut type injuries on the inside of the off side ribs.  The heart, lungs, and liver suffered major damage.  The deer was dead, he did not know it.
I shot running a buck at about ten yards a couple weeks later.  The buck disappeared into the brush and then ran in a tight circle back towards me.  A stream of blood had sprayed out the entrance wound and the buck travelled a very short distance.  The buck was dead when I got to him.  The top of the heart was destroy and major damage to the lungs.  The angle of the shot put the bullet into the lower off shoulder causing some blood shot meat.
Brother put three Bronze Points into the chest cavity of a monster buck.  The buck went down with the third round. Admittedly that 760 Remington sounded like it was firing in burst mode. I do not think the buck moved out of its tracks.

My brother and I were in high school and that was our experience level when we started using Bronze Points.  At close range they were very explosive on deer and I cannot recall an exit on 20 some deer between the two of us.
A buck that goes a couple of hundred yards and then rolls down the mountain side is a challenge to find.  It took us a while to come to the same conclusion, there had to be a better bullet. 
I used some other 130-grain bullets that held together, but I moved on to 140 and 150-grain bullets because I want an entry wound and exit hole with blood pouring out.

As young hunters we always picked up the latest Remington and Winchester pamphlets at the local feed store which sold license, ammunition, firearms, and feed.  We would run our finger down the line for 130-grain bullets for the 270 Winchester.  The Bronze Point was the winter on PAPER.
 

[shot1]

You don't need to worry about the 130 Sierra for the 270. IT IS A DEER KILLER.  I have killed many with it and it usually drops them in their tracks. The 130 ballistic tip is a good one also. My standard load that shoots lights out in every 270 Win I have tried used to be on the H-4831 powder jar. 60 grs H-4831, with 130 gr bullet, I use CCI BR2 primer, Rem case. Work up to this load because it is max. It usually runs between 3100 and 3200 fps in most 22 to 24" barrels.

[Lloyd Smale]

probably the two most violent expanders with be the 130 ballistic tip and the 130 seirra boat tail. the prohunters hold together a bit better but still expand pretty wickedly

[TwoSeventy]

I've been shooting the 270 Win. for a long time, and the 130 gr. Remington Core-Lokt has never let me down.
It's not pretty or fancy, but it certainly gets the job done.

[mrbigtexan]

i think the sst by hornady would be what your looking for.