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 George Zimmerman Video Shows Injury to Back of His HeadBy MATT GUTMAN | Good Morning America – 21 hours ago  @GMA on Twitter, become a fan on Facebook   
  Enhanced video footage of George Zimmerman being taken into custody less than 30 minutes after he shot and killed Florida teenTrayvon Martin shows the neighborhood watch captain with an injury to the back of his head. The never-before-seen evidence of an injury to Zimmerman, in this case a gash or mark to his head, would appear to back his claim that he shot Martin in self defense after he was attacked by Martin on the night of Feb. 26 in Sanford, Fla
Zimmerman, 28, claims Martin, 17, punched him in the nose, knocked him down and repeatedly slammed his head into the ground.
The police surveillance video, first obtained exclusively by ABC News last month and clarified by Forensic Protection, Inc., shows Zimmerman exiting the police cruiser with his hands cuffed behind his back. Zimmerman is frisked and then led down a series of hallways, still cuffed. At one point, one of the officers stops to look briefly at the back of Zimmerman's head.
There was no obvious sign of any injury to Zimmerman's head or face on the video until it was enhanced. But the enhanced video does not show any visible injury to Zimmerman's nose, nor any signs of blood on his shirt.
Police Video Surveillance of George Zimmerman
The initial police report noted that Zimmerman was bleeding from the back of the head and nose, and his lawyer later claimed that Zimmeran suffered a broken nose. After receiving medical attention at the scene of the shooting, it was decided that he was in good enough condition to travel in a police cruiser to the Sanford, Fla., police station for questioning. He did not check into the emergency room following the police questioning.
The surveillance tape of Zimmerman, later released by the Sanford Police Department, could be used as evidence if Zimmerman is brought up on charges, sources tell ABC News.
Zimmerman's lawyer, Craig Sonner, has said his client felt "one of them was going to die that night," when he pulled the trigger.
The case has gained national prominence with rallies across the country demanding that Zimmerman be arrested and charged with murder.
Lawyers for Martin's family sent a letter to the Justice Department today asking that the federal probe into the killing look into the fact that Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee met with State Attorney Norm Wolfinger on the night of shooting. Lawyer Benjamin Crump also claims in the letter that members of Zimmerman's family were also present in the police station that night.
The lead homicide investigator, Chris Serino, wrote in an affidavit that he recommended manslaughter charges be brougth against Zimmerman but was advised by the prosecutor not to file charges because there was not enough evidence for a conviction, sources have told ABC News.
"We look forward to your thorough and comprehensive review of the suspicious circumstances surrounding this meeting," Crump wrote.
State prosecutors are expected to go before a Seminole County grand jury on April 10 to determine what, if any, files should be charged.
An analysis of a 911 call done over the weekend by the Orlando Sentinel determined that screams for help overhead on a 911 came from Martin, although Zimmerman's family insist they recognize his voice in the screams.
Two evidence experts consulted by the Sentinel found the voice heard in a 911 call placed by a woman in a home near where the shooting occurred was only a 48 percent match to Zimmerman's voice. One of the experts, Tom Owen, told the Sentinel to reach a positive match he would expect higher than 90 percent.
"As a result of that, you can say with reasonable scientific certainty that it's not Zimmerman," Owen told the paper.
Owen,the chair emeritus at the American Board of Record Evidence, was not able to determine if the voice was that of Martin, the Sentinel reports, because he did not have audio of the teen's voice to compare to the shouts for help in the 911 call.
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Re: Enhanced video shows apparent wound to back of Zimmermans head.
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2012, 08:04:22 AM »
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Re: Enhanced video shows apparent wound to back of Zimmermans head.
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2012, 08:18:07 AM »
Just got around to trying to watch the video but if I click on either link I get a "video no longer available".
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Re: Enhanced video shows apparent wound to back of Zimmermans head.
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2012, 08:34:12 AM »
Guzzi,
Click on the yahoo link, it will get you there.
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Re: Enhanced video shows apparent wound to back of Zimmermans head.
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2012, 08:42:44 AM »
No joy with the yahoo link Cuts, get the same screen as I got before. I get the text and all but where the video should be I just get the "this video is no longer available" along with a picture of a little robot type of thing.
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Re: Enhanced video shows apparent wound to back of Zimmermans head.
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2012, 08:47:53 AM »
No joy with the yahoo link Cuts, get the same screen as I got before. I get the text and all but where the video should be I just get the "this video is no longer available" along with a picture of a little robot type of thing.
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Hmmm? I just went there and found a link in the article that took me too it. I'll tgry it again and post the addy if I can get there.
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Re: Enhanced video shows apparent wound to back of Zimmermans head.
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2012, 09:06:55 AM »
Cuts,
Thanks for trying again. Still cannot open it. I will wait until I can access another server in case that is the problem.
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Re: Enhanced video shows apparent wound to back of Zimmermans head.
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2012, 09:56:49 AM »
I just clicked the link I provided and it worked fine. POWDERMAN.  ??? ???
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Re: Enhanced video shows apparent wound to back of Zimmermans head.
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2012, 10:00:11 AM »
Guzzi

Could it be a program on yer 'puter?  Sometimes I have to disable some of my spam/anti-virus stuff temporarily to view some sites/videos.
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Re: Enhanced video shows apparent wound to back of Zimmermans head.
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2012, 12:00:29 PM »
I got it to open. Sure looks like Zimmerman had a couple head wounds.(back of the head) Now if the ballistics info would show up. Be a whole different story if  there are powder burns to his shirt. Close range shot would tell just how close he was. Of course at this point and time, I really don't think it matters much. With Sharpton and Jackson whipping up the neighborhood, they want riots no matter what. It'll get worse, before it gets better. gypsyman
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Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Re: Enhanced video shows apparent wound to back of Zimmermans head.
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2012, 12:56:06 PM »
  Try this link..  http://newsboypost.blogspot.com/  there is some statement from the police just below the photo.
 
    Here's the police report: 
      http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/trayvon-martin-police-report-reveals-crime-scene-details-175656087.html
 
 
   I found the picture below.. composer said it wasn't fair to show Zimmerman in "county orange' beside an old "child like" picture of Martin, so he tried to even the score;
 
 
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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2012, 09:36:21 PM »
The more evidence that comes out about this case the more it suggest that this may be another Duke Lacrosse Part II type incident.  If Zimmerman violated the law I hope he is punished swiftly and appropriately, but on the flip side of the coin, if he acted with in the confines of the law and reasonably given the situation, I hope he is exonerated as he should be and that he sues the ever living $%^& out of everyone involved in this smear compaign including the media outlets that dilibertly left out important facts when reporting on the subject in a effort to inflame racial tensions.  There ought to be consequences for knowingly portraying an event in a light other than the way it really happened.

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Re: Enhanced video shows apparent wound to back of Zimmermans head.
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2012, 09:43:03 PM »
The more evidence that comes out about this case the more it suggest that this may be another Duke Lacrosse Part II type incident.  If Zimmerman violated the law I hope he is punished swiftly and appropriately, but on the flip side of the coin, if he acted with in the confines of the law and reasonably given the situation, I hope he is exonerated as he should be and that he sues the ever living $%^& out of everyone involved in this smear compaign including the media outlets that dilibertly left out important facts when reporting on the subject in a effort to inflame racial tensions.  There ought to be consequences for knowingly portraying an event in a light other than the way it really happened.

I don't think I could have expressed my feelings on this matter any better.

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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2012, 11:46:35 PM »
  Not having been on the scene either, I am no better qualified to speak on the subject than Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton or Calypso Louis Farrakhan...  However, I do not bring the "bag of bias" which they carry.
   First off, I agree with LunaticFringe directly above.  With the information seeping in, the picture may not be as it was initially painted.  Considering the wounds to "Z" which have come to light, here's another possible scenario;
 
       "Z" was on neighborhood watch, especially alert because of frequent night-burglaries in this gated community. "Z" didn't recognize this guy..especially with a hood concealing his face.  He's talking to the dispatcher, who asks the usual questions they normally ask (which  were "edited" by PMSNBC, in an effort to 'color' the report).  After getting the description for police patrol the dispatcher says "we don't need you to do that".  Upon hearing that and assuming the law to be on the way, Z replies "OK" .. and turns back to leave the scene...
    That scalp wound is not from the ground so much as it is from an unexpected "sucker punch" from the rear....
 
   Now that scenario I admit, is only one of many possibles, but I am not carrying the the bias baggage which three stooges above are toting.
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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2012, 01:17:30 AM »
If authorities can determine who was the aggressor and who was standing his ground than that will be that. The Kid also had right to 'stand his ground'; but certainly he didn't know his opponent carried a handgun.....I'm sure authorities still-photoed Z's injuries. If he was protecting himself that will be that; but still doesn't explain how he got concealed carry with his record, or how the night watch operated in contrast to IG's night watch patrol (rules he gave in another thread).
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  Right; Z made a mistake, several actually.. going alone, armed and unidentified.  If he had observed just the latter 2 items, it would place him in better stead with the law.  That still doesn't mean however, that he wasn't acting in self defense !
   I believe the facts will be ferreted out but there are a few (quite a few) who knowing no more than we do..are seeking by demands and riotous actions..to give Z a lynching !
  Suppose the authorities heeded the frantic and arrested Z.. They would have i believe, just 24 hours to nail down their case. 
  Then suppose that after that 24 hours was up, they still did not have enough to hold him longer and had to turn him loose.  How would that look to a trial, were one to ensue some months later ?
 
  Let the man be tried in court.. not in the street !!!
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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2012, 03:19:46 AM »
They need an excuse to do some "window" shopping and beautifying their neighborhoods by burning them down.
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« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2012, 03:28:33 AM »
I was able to open the video when I could access another server. All I can say is we will have to wait and see what the grand jury comes up with. The head wound appears to be very minor and he still does not appear to have any facial damage. It was also said that the police wanted to file manslaughter charges but the DA said no. To bad there were not general surveillance cameras at this complex that might have captured the interactions.
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Re: Enhanced video shows apparent wound to back of Zimmermans head.
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2012, 03:35:08 AM »
My only thoughts are that Zimmerman will have to look over his shoulder the rest of his life if he is exonerated - because of Sharpton, Jackson and the rest of the hate/race mongers whipping up the locals into a frenzy.     If Z tries to return to a "normal" life I am sure that one of the zealots of the dark side will do a drive by or a Hickock style execution......why ?    because the mob of protesters have already convicted him in their minds and do not care about anything other than a Guilty verdict coming from the justice system. 
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« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2012, 04:11:26 AM »
I was able to open the video when I could access another server. All I can say is we will have to wait and see what the grand jury comes up with. The head wound appears to be very minor and he still does not appear to have any facial damage. It was also said that the police wanted to file manslaughter charges but the DA said no. To bad there were not general surveillance cameras at this complex that might have captured the interactions.
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  Guzzi;
  Although the wound didn't appear severe (on the video) and you were wondering about the broken nose; I noticed you didn't mention the police report, which gives a clear description of what the EMT personnel had to do.  Here's the police report;
    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/trayvon-martin-police-report-reveals-crime-scene-details-175656087.html
 
   Of course, we will have to await the grand jury report, since they will see more than we are privy to.  Still, the grand jury is not the end-all, be-all.  Grand juries seem inclined to favor prosecution..  The old saying goes.."you can indict a ham sandwich".
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« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2012, 05:33:59 AM »
Sharpton and Jackson are aware of the police report as is the attorney for the family.   Unfortunately the rhetoric has gotten so heated and full of misinformation (hint: lies), along with NBC editing the tape to indict Mr. Z, that the restless locals and the hate mongers are saying (first) that the police dept didn't do their job and ignored facts;   and now (secondly) that are saying that the report is not valid because it is one big conspiracy and coverup of a racially bigoted PD..... so they want the DoJ to step in........
 
Although the family has called for peaceful rallies, and letting the facts come out,  the Reverands Al and Jesse won't hear of it.... Farrakan and the New Black Panther Party are calling for vigalantism ( eye for an eye stuff)   and boycotts of all the businesses in downtown Sanford that had nothing to do with this.     Many small businesses are losing thousands of dollars each week because the media keeps fanning the flames of "potential violence and unrest" ..   
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Re: Enhanced video shows apparent wound to back of Zimmermans head.
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2012, 11:58:56 AM »
I found the picture below.. composer said it wasn't fair to show Zimmerman in "county orange' beside an old "child like" picture of Martin, so he tried to even the score
He tried a little too hard to even the score - or maybe the truth just doesn't matter? - but be advised that is not Trayvon Martin in the photo you attached, Ironglow.


 



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Re: Enhanced video shows apparent wound to back of Zimmermans head.
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2012, 06:26:04 AM »
I found the picture below.. composer said it wasn't fair to show Zimmerman in "county orange' beside an old "child like" picture of Martin, so he tried to even the score
He tried a little too hard to even the score - or maybe the truth just doesn't matter? - but be advised that is not Trayvon Martin in the photo you attached, Ironglow.
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« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2012, 06:57:01 AM »
 
  How do you know..was Travon a personal friend or member of your family ?
I know because I can see, and that's not the same guy in confirmed photos of Martin.
I know because it's already been confirmed that this is not a photo of Martin - I've seen it before.

There's plenty of stuff out there to give an accurate picture, no need to resort to bogus info

No, Trayvon is not a personal friend or member of my family - I'm in NC, he was in FL - did you really think that I knew him?
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« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2012, 07:15:11 AM »
Yup.. I thought so, because I couldn't tell the difference by the photos..the face wasn't clear in the last one.
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Re: Enhanced video shows apparent wound to back of Zimmermans head.
« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2012, 08:18:03 AM »
Yup.. I thought so, because I couldn't tell the difference by the photos..the face wasn't clear in the last one.

Still, the photo you posted isn't Trayvon Martin. It is someone else. So, posting it adds nothing but disinformation, the purpose of which is... ?
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Re: Enhanced video shows apparent wound to back of Zimmermans head.
« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2012, 11:28:38 AM »
the gangsta photos are from a different Trayvon Martin, living in a different state.   the website  Twitchy.com first leaked the photos as the deceased Trayvon,  then later issued a retraction and apology for putting the wrong pix out there. 
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