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Bullet lube which won't stay on bullets?
« on: April 03, 2012, 05:53:18 AM »
Mr. Smith after reading for over an hour and becoming quite improved in several areas of casting boolits, I still have a problem. Just giving you the issue- which is: my alox mix lube will not stick to my lead. Never happened in the past. After a couple years of casting(a beginner at my age) and messing with the lube mix and the lead mixes I haven't ever had this issue. I have clean about 150 45-70 boolits of the lube and re-lubed for the 3rd time. Any ideas or the exact correct answer would be appreciated. By the way -- I really enjoyed your story on who HE is.

  Notice that I changed the title to proper spelling for bullet.    I can abide seeing the forum name boolit occasionally in a post, but just can't deal with seeing it out in plain sight as a title on a forum carrying my name.

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Re: boolit lube ?
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2012, 07:21:08 PM »
  Thank you for the compliment.

  I haven't used a lot of alox lube and all that I did use was when I was first begining to cast.  In Fact, that hatefull and poor performing stuff  was the main reason why I devloped my bullet lubricants.    It's tendency to slip off the bullets,  stink and tear my sinus up, and keep me mining lead from the barrel after every shooting session, just turned me off completely.  (I've never seen a boolit or tried it on one of them  but only used it on bullets cast of lead alloys.)

  With any lube, the bullets must be dry before application, which yours certainly are after trying to lube them 3 times.    So I'm the wrong party to ask that question of.  If there are other readers who have an answer, please help vidiot out!

  Keep in mind though that my inability to help only applies to knowledge about alox lube.  You can completely solve your problem, and get far better performance, if you'll purchase some LBT lubricant.    It does not work for black powder,  nor does alox,  but LBT lubes work well for all smokeless and black powder substitutes.  Our lubes will not come off on your hands, in your pockets or during bullet flight up to at least 2900 fps.

  They will give accuracy and prevent leading with loads  which will blow your gun up if using alox lube.
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Re: boolit lube ?
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2012, 06:49:37 PM »
Thank you Mr. Smith  for your help with the boolit lube. I realized it was the lube had lost quite abit of its moisture.  I was able to add mineral spirits and it adhered very well. Thanks again for your time and efforts...

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Re: Bullet lube ?
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2012, 04:46:31 PM »
  Mineral spirits solved your problem temporarily, but another name for that solvent is paint thinner, and it is intended to evaporate quite rapidly.  It is therefore a poor choice for softening a brittle lubricant.  Better use motor oil, which will redily  mix into most bullet lubes when melted, and will not dry out, causing the lube to harden again.
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Re: Bullet lube which won't stay on bullets?
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2012, 08:58:14 PM »
Some people get older and wiser--I just got older. Thank you for a great tip. Since your in such a good frame of mind...I read a list of ingredients for a fellows lube and he put more stuff in it than I put in a gumbo"some of them were the same things"..but does it really take that much of a recipe?

Really do appreciate your awareness of my lacking of mental ability and I for sure will discard the mineral spirits. Thanks

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Re: Bullet lube which won't stay on bullets?
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2012, 07:17:45 PM »
   Bullet lubricant quality is not determined by how many ingredients are in it, but concentration of the ingredients which make cast slide through the barrel accurately under the highest speed and chamber pressure.

   I strongly recommend that you try some of our LBT bullet lube as a standard.   It took me 6 months of 16 hour days, 6 days a week, and our complete nest egg of $30.000 to develop it, back in 1980. That  much coin would buy as much as $200.000 now, methinks.  In other words, don't expect to fall into a super performer lube by accident, nor to get a super recipe for free.    I was able to mix up batches and shoot out the shop door, so I could test 10 to 20 formulas in a day real easy.   Not many people can shoot out of their shop, nor have that much full time to spend on lube developement, nor have the 25 years of heavy industrial experiance which I had.

  If you need to hold to a real tight budgit which forces you to resort to home made lube, expect to do some regular lead mining out of your barrels, and keep velocities down to where whatever you are using doesn't lead the barrels too badly.

   Should this sound like an LBT lube commercial, so be it.  I can't say it any other way and tell the truth.  You'll almost certainly get more joy out of shooting lead by just buying the best lube you can lay hands on, and  LBT lube has no peer.  ---   I'll word that another way.  If every bullet lube maker in the world were to give you a coupld free sticks of lube to test, and you were to test them all, you would spend more money on primers and powder to do the testing, not to mention the horrendous hours of your time, than it would cost to buy a lifetime supply of LBT lube, which is the one you would settle on in the end anyhow!    ---  There is no conceit here.  Just the facts.

  By the way.  Alox rates in the top 75% of available bullet lubes, performance wise, but a max  ACCURATE  load, with complete freedom from leading, in a powerful rifle, when using LBT lube, will lock up a gun or blow it up on the first shot if LBTlube were simply wiped off one bullet and replaced with alox.    That is a test I made the mistake of trying!
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