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The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« on: April 03, 2012, 09:20:12 AM »
I tell ya, this is not a group for sane people.   :-\  Heck, I only come here to see what's new in the Handi world of "what if" and "I wonder if I could."   ::)
 
Take the big 50 craze for example.
 
First off, I am NOT part of that group!  I know, I know... I bought a set of 50-140 dies.  But that just means I saw an opportunity for a profit.   8)  You see, my egging on susceptible minds has a motive!   ;)
 
Look around!  LongTom has been talking about a 50-140 forever!  BikerBeans didn't even let the dust settle on his 4444 Loudenboomerfiresnorter and he is reaming away on one or more, I can't keep track, 50 calibers with varying suffixes!   ::)
 
And Tim!   :o  As usual he's way out there in the front of the pack with his 499HE, a stream of drool dribbling down his beard in anticipation of a day at the range!   ::)
 
I know there are more of that ilk out there!  Just look at all the 500 fanatics!   :o  I tell ya, this place is rampent with Cartridge envy!  Apparently size does matter and these folk are really into compensating!   ::)  No tellin what will be next! 
 
Where is Tyler when you need him...   ???
 
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2012, 09:29:00 AM »
I'm old and slow too, so you got no excuses!!!

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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2012, 01:21:59 PM »
yep, yall rite... j3 charges me 50 bucks to grass cut and weed-eat roun tha boat house............. ;)
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2012, 02:22:05 PM »
Handi 50BMG?  Lots of powder capacity.  I could out magnum all you big bore boys.  'Course I couldn't shoot it, and the chamber would be about as thin as a shoebox, ....but other than that! ::)
 
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2012, 03:00:37 PM »
I'd really like to have a .50-70.
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2012, 03:33:08 PM »
Little 50s huh?........I still like my 577 Snider, but another mid-caliber would be fun.
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2012, 04:41:55 PM »
  They are coming,    Yep,  Be patient,   ;D ;D
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2012, 05:51:14 PM »
I'd really like to have a .50-70.
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2012, 06:06:49 PM »
Sure would be nice ;) ;D ;D
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2012, 06:34:06 PM »
50's, why I been in ta the 50's fer about 9.5 years ::) .  Come November, I'll be in the 60's, then what I'm gonna do? :'(   Uh, Richard, what was you talkin bout? :-\   Guess I better go bubble clean my teefe, get some, um some,  well guess I'll be goin now :-[ .  DP
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2012, 08:43:59 PM »
I like the larger caliber bullets cause I can actually see them when I am reloading. :P   
 
I think Tyler is in the woods turkey hunting with his new .950 JDJ. :o
 
Build your 50-140 Richard, local candy store has a couple of boxes of 700 grain, 0.512" LRN boolits.  They also have GOEX if you happen to smoke. ;D
 
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2012, 05:32:52 AM »
I found some more 700gr Ranger Rick's yesterday, ran a QL prediction for the 499HE, should be able to push them ~1800fps @ 40kpsi, that's about 400fps faster than in the 500S&W at 25kpsi less pressure!!  ;D

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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2012, 05:58:49 AM »
That's gonna leave a mark :'(
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2012, 06:10:33 AM »
About 80lbs recoil in a 10lb gun, only 23lb in the Leadsled tho, felt recoil will be about the same as a 300gr 45-70 factory round in a 8lb Handi, so no marks on my end.  ;)

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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2012, 06:33:58 AM »
Quick,
 
If you forget your leadsled on range day or you still going to shoot the 700 grainers? ::)
 
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2012, 06:36:22 AM »
A 50 cal lead bullet and BH209 is a lot more fun to shoot when you can load if from the breech end of the gun. 8)   Like Quick says "don't ask me how I know that"! ;D
 
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2012, 07:13:09 AM »
Yep, shore gonna leave a mark. ear
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2012, 09:23:55 AM »
Quick,
 
If you forget your leadsled on range day or you still going to shoot the 700 grainers? ::)
 
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Nope, I'd return home and get it, but it's not likely that I'd forget it since I have all of my shootin stuff except the guns in the same spot ready to go, forgetting guns is another matter entirely tho! :-[ ::) ??? ;D
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2012, 03:13:59 PM »
You fine folks have lost your minds ;D Keep it up and you will be banished to the Blackpowder mortor and cannon forum :D ;D
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2012, 03:58:10 PM »
Just imagine if it were legal to go over 50 cal.  Anybody want a 20mm?  The "big eighty"?   :o 
 
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2012, 04:37:20 AM »
Funny you should mention that Ben!  I was thinkin that it shouldn't cost any more to rebore and ream to the 600 NE then the 50-140...  :-\   I'm just sayin...  :P
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2012, 08:21:48 AM »
One of them "50s" is making its public debut in Sidney, Oh this weekend. ;D
 
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2012, 08:51:05 AM »
Funny you should mention that Ben!  I was thinkin that it shouldn't cost any more to rebore and ream to the 600 NE then the 50-140...  :-\   I'm just sayin...  :P

Clearwater does 600NE rebores!!  ;D Full pressure loads would be a bit much I think with over 12k lbs breech thrust, but lighter loads would work, AG lists 900gr @ 26.1kpsi for 1943fps at just over 10k. It has a .700" case head, but operates at relatively low pressure.

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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2012, 09:20:37 AM »
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2012, 03:33:31 PM »
I see where Clearwater can rebore to 700 Nitro Express. Bet that would really get someones attention! A 20 ga USH would have a .615 bore the 700 Nitro a .688/.700 bore. Do not know if the rear of the barrel on a handi is large enough to cut for the chamber though.
Midway has ammo listed only $383.00 for a box of 5 (plus shipping)
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http://www.accuratereloading.com/700ne.html
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2012, 04:11:10 PM »
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Re: The 50's are coming the 50's are coming!
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2012, 03:11:06 PM »
A 50 cal lead bullet and BH209 is a lot more fun to shoot when you can load if from the breech end of the gun. 8)   Like Quick says "don't ask me how I know that"! ;D
 
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