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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #360 on: April 20, 2012, 01:58:17 PM »

how can a CONSERVITIVE.....NOT  vote against the democrat


has no one grasp the concept of getting it right in the primaries??

To the first question: Easy, voting for a socialist, gun grabber, baby killer is wrong whether he's a demo or a repub.

To the second question: Apparently not, because the repubs are running a socialist, gun grabbing, baby killer.

In an aside, I got a kick out of those who commented that they did not participate in the above polls because the choices were too narrow. :o ;D Obviously they feel that if the choices aren't what they want.....they shouldn't vote. ;)




the republicans will run who wins the primary


either a republican  or a democrat WILL win the GENERAL election


NOT voteing for one of them IS a vote for the other


who knows what a primary  is ??
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #361 on: April 20, 2012, 02:16:16 PM »




the republicans will run who wins the primary


As I already pointed out, the repubs are running a socialist, gun grabbing, baby killer.
and a vote for a socialist, gun grabbing, baby killer is a vote for a socialist, gun grabbing, baby killer....doesn't matter which party he's backed by.

A primary is the parties attempt to give it's constituancy the apperance of a chance to select the candidate they want to represent them in the upcoming election. It has become apparent that the republican party is now the party of socialist, gun grabbing, baby killers.....given their selection of O'romnebama
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #362 on: April 20, 2012, 03:11:49 PM »
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In an aside, I got a kick out of those who commented that they did not participate in the above polls because the choices were too narrow. :o ;D Obviously they feel that if the choices aren't what they want.....they shouldn't vote. ;)

 
 
In a meaningless poll, yes.  In an election for the most powerful man in the world, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
Yup just zactly what he said.(Casull that is  ;) )
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #363 on: April 21, 2012, 04:51:17 AM »




the republicans will run who wins the primary


As I already pointed out, the repubs are running a socialist, gun grabbing, baby killer.
and a vote for a socialist, gun grabbing, baby killer is a vote for a socialist, gun grabbing, baby killer....doesn't matter which party he's backed by.

A primary is the parties attempt to give it's constituancy the apperance of a chance to select the candidate they want to represent them in the upcoming election. It has become apparent that the republican party is now the party of socialist, gun grabbing, baby killers.....given their selection of O'romnebama


to a good degree you are right


did you vote in the primaries?


some states have a caucus to further confuse things
that needs to change


other states allow the opposing party to vote some one unelectable in the other party
[operation kaos  ]


we should have had this interest last year
THIS ELECTION IS OVER
the only thing left to decide is whether it will be rommnee or obumer
it will be a close call
you can vote against the MOST  evil  or  NOT
no it shouldn't be that way but it  is


now is the time to get involved in  local politics
and stop the liberals  be for they move up a decade from now
jax  fla  actually got a libertarian ELECTED a few years  ago
a small lowly position.....but a start.....for our grand kids to late for us
back in the  70s the libertarians had a congressman too.....but not since




the presedent will align himself with congressmen and senators  within their party
that  alone is enough for me to decide......in the general election
this race will be VERY  close......in the real world
on  GBO obama would not win  and i would feel free to vote  3rd party



when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #364 on: April 21, 2012, 05:10:33 AM »
to a good degree you are right
did you vote in the primaries? Yes I did


some states have a caucus to further confuse things
that needs to change


other states allow the opposing party to vote some one unelectable in the other party
[operation kaos  ]


we should have had this interest last year
THIS ELECTION IS OVER
the only thing left to decide is whether it will be rommnee or obumer
it will be a close call
you can vote against the MOST  evil  or  NOT When both are baby killers there is not a "most evil"They are both equally evil.
no it shouldn't be that way but it  is


now is the time to get involved in  local politics
and stop the liberals  be for they move up a decade from now
jax  fla  actually got a libertarian ELECTED a few years  ago
a small lowly position.....but a start.....for our grand kids to late for us
back in the  70s the libertarians had a congressman too.....but not since

the presedent will align himself with congressmen and senators  within their party
that  alone is enough for me to decide......in the general election
this race will be VERY  close......in the real world
on  GBO obama would not win  and i would feel free to vote  3rd party
I will probably vote a straight republikan ticket, given the choices available to me at the local level, with the exception of the republikan presidential candidate. He is a socialist, gun grabbing, baby killer.
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« Reply #365 on: April 22, 2012, 04:34:02 AM »
Mr.   Crooked


thanks for helping fight the democrats on the other fronts


if the democrats are ever totaly defeated for good
then we may safely abolish the republicans....
...americas second biggest threat
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #366 on: April 22, 2012, 05:51:29 PM »
Talk about obtuse.......the bottom line is one less vote against Obama is one more for Obama.

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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #367 on: April 22, 2012, 11:00:20 PM »
Talk about obtuse.......the bottom line is one less vote against Obama is one more for Obama.

ST762

No, the bottom line is evil. Both are baby killing, socialist, gun grabbers.....evil. Both will destroy America....evil. You vote for evil, what does that make you?
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #368 on: April 23, 2012, 01:06:44 PM »
Talk about obtuse.......the bottom line is one less vote against Obama is one more for Obama.

ST762

No, the bottom line is evil. Both are baby killing, socialist, gun grabbers.....evil. Both will destroy America....evil. You vote for evil, what does that make you?
The lesser of two evils is from British Naval history.
You do what will cause the least amount of harm.
If the choices are A loose the ship or B loose half the crew you Pick B.  Picking A will loose the whole crew.
And while you may have three or four items where Obama and Rhomney are similar if not the same the key issue where they differ is the constitution.  At least Rhomney says it exists and it means what it says.  Obama does not like it and has already said he will ignore it when needed to FUNDAMENTALLY Change America.
You also have the Liberal Media that will ignore what Obama does with the Constitutuion but will beat Rhomney over the head with it if he does anything wrong.  After all as long as you have an R next to your name the Liberals think you are worse than the terrorists.  And will do what they can to Impeach or make the R President resign.
That is why i am willing to vote for Rhomney and have a nothing president for a few years instead of an activist Progressive President.
A Priogressive is one that progresses the Comunist Doctrine.  And the Big difference between a Socialist and a Communist is you can return from Socialism as people understand how stupid the system is, there is only a melt down from Communism.
Unfortunatly this ellection for the Conservitives is going ot be about Stopping Obama, not ellecting who may be the best Conservitive.  We need a campaign that like Reagans educates the voters, to vote for something rather than against something.
 

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« Reply #369 on: April 23, 2012, 02:46:20 PM »
"if you believe that the end justifies the means then you are a liberal!"

Anyone who votes for a gun grabbing, socialist, baby killer to try to save themselves from a gun grabbing, socialist, baby killer, is no better than the former or the latter. And frankly...they deserve what they will get.

And therein lays the bottom line........what has the republican party become? It's become exactly what it claims to abhore, and tries to make excuses for itself. If it were otherwise, they never would have chosen a gun grabbing, socialist, baby killer to be their candidate. :'(
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #370 on: April 24, 2012, 01:34:54 AM »
mcwoodduck, of course you make perfect sense.
but in your scenario, a bunch here will choose option A.  lose the ship and the whole crew.
they don't realize that those will NEVER sail again.
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #371 on: April 24, 2012, 05:13:28 AM »
"if you believe that the end justifies the means then you are a liberal!"

Anyone who votes for a gun grabbing, socialist, baby killer to try to save themselves from a gun grabbing, socialist, baby killer, is no better than the former or the latter. And frankly...they deserve what they will get.

And therein lays the bottom line........what has the republican party become? It's become exactly what it claims to abhore, and tries to make excuses for itself. If it were otherwise, they never would have chosen a gun grabbing, socialist, baby killer to be their candidate. :'(


Cuts Crooked is the one making sense. A vote for Romney is a vote for Obama, or a vote for Obama is a vote for Romney, whichever you prefer. While their rhetoric may be different, their fiscal and foreign policies are the same as shaped by the establishment mentality.
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #372 on: April 24, 2012, 05:54:55 AM »
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We need a campaign that like Reagans educates the voters, to vote for something rather than against something.

And that's exactly what we are not getting from Oromney! >:(
Smokeless is only a passing fad!

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« Reply #373 on: April 24, 2012, 06:25:32 AM »
Gary G and Cuts Crooked are corrrect, IF you ignore everything that McWoodduck said.  That's the problem with simplistic reasoning.  It ignores the details.
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #374 on: April 24, 2012, 06:27:28 AM »
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We need a campaign that like Reagans educates the voters, to vote for something rather than against something.

And that's exactly what we are not getting from Oromney! >:(
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« Reply #375 on: April 24, 2012, 07:58:00 AM »
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We need a campaign that like Reagans educates the voters, to vote for something rather than against something.

And that's exactly what we are not getting from Oromney! >:(
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There is one campaign teaching back to the Constitution but the heard is listening to everyone, party and media, else.
Yes, but not enough people want Newt.    ;)
Unfortunatly what ever Ron Paul is saying it is either not regerstering with the voters or it is not well recieved.  It may not be the message, it may be the messenger but either way the republican candidate will most likely not be him.This whole thread is about what is the lesser of two evils.
Voting a 3rd party, assuming Ron Paul Runs, writting in a name, or  not voting for president are all going to result in a 2nd term for Obama. 
The questions is weather a Rhomney presidency is going to erode our freedoms less than Obama.
My point about loosing half the crew or the ship is what you have to look at.
I personally think you only have two choices in the senerio of Obama, Rhomney, or other. Either vote for Rhomney or what ever else you do will be a vote for Obama. 3rd party or obstain will see Obama in office another four years.
And like Cuts Crooked says, he sees them as equals.  I understand that in general perincipal.  The lesser of two evils is who do you think will do the least amount of harm to the country or your freedoms?
If you think it is Obama then vote 3rd party, obstain, or write in anyone.
If you think Rhomney will do the least harm then you need to vote for him to get rid of Obama.
While both choices are bad, one is going to be worse than the other.  And I see the two choices I wrote above as valid either the ship is going down with all hands or you will loose 1/2 of the crew.  Both bad choices but clearly one can be fixed and recrewed.  The other is a total loss.
 
 
 

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« Reply #376 on: April 24, 2012, 08:12:10 AM »
The sole purpose of government is to protect your liberty. The Constitution is not to restrict the people, but to restrict government.  Ron Paul

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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #377 on: April 24, 2012, 08:37:39 AM »
My response to Mcwoodduck:
http://lewrockwell.com/orig13/kelly-t1.1.1.html
Gary,
I agree with you.  I want a conservitive, maybe not the same one you do, but I want a conservitive as our president
Clearly I have said that between the three choices there are only two.
Either you vote for Obama, or For Rhomney.  There is no middle ground, there is no high road. A vote for integrety is going to result in a statistical anomoly that will be ignored in the press and by the next president.
In the chopice between a communist and a socialist, I want the socialist. 
Would I love a clone of the great Ronald Reagan, Absolutly.  Will we have it?  Unfortunatly not.
So of the two horrible choices what do you pick?  Even if everyone on GBO and their friends and families all voted Paul he would loose by a land slide as a 3rd party candidate and Obama will be president.
If you think Obama as a 2nd term is preferable to Rhomney then Vote 3rd party, vote write in or obstain and as the article says start stocking up on items you want when we are a 3rd world nation.
 

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« Reply #378 on: April 24, 2012, 08:39:37 AM »
McWooduck,
 
I would agree that it is not well received. The republican constituancy hasa been eating at the liberal trough for too long and now cannot imagine true freedom or living under the constitution as intended by the founders.
 
It's simple cowardice, but it's affects are profound.
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« Reply #379 on: April 24, 2012, 09:30:48 AM »
The TEA party republicans want to make the budget cuts and want to correct things.  It is the old line Republicans who don't want to make the hard decisions.  If enough TEA party republicans can get elected, then we might could get serious about some changes.  There is hope, just can't jump ship yet.

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« Reply #380 on: April 24, 2012, 10:00:54 AM »
Biggest problem with the republican party is all the democrats that bailed out and came over when Clinton and co started things at the DNC on it's leftward spiral.
In the 1920's "sheeple" was a term coined by the National Socialist Party in Germany to describe people that would not vote for Hitler. In the 1930's they held Hitler as the only one that would bring pride back to Germany and bring the budget and economy back.....

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« Reply #381 on: April 24, 2012, 10:47:33 AM »
and  if more good people  leave the republican party


it will SURELY be run by the wave  of obumer intuced defectors joining the republican party
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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« Reply #382 on: April 24, 2012, 11:12:28 AM »
and  if more good people  leave the republican party


it will SURELY be run by the wave  of obumer intuced defectors joining the republican party
It appears that it is already far too late!!!!!!!!!

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The  (unanimous) passage of H.R. 347  exposes the fact that the Democrats and the Republicans stand shoulder to shoulder.It's just that plain and simple. Facts don't lie.
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #383 on: April 24, 2012, 11:14:09 AM »
McWooduck,
 
I would agree that it is not well received. The republican constituancy hasa been eating at the liberal trough for too long and now cannot imagine true freedom or living under the constitution as intended by the founders.
 
It's simple cowardice, but it's affects are profound.
For me Paul's message is 50/50
Half message, half the messenger  are things I like.
Not all that comes out of pauls mouth are things I can get behind.
And while I do not see Paul as a great candidate and some of his policies scare the crud out of me.  I would vote for him over Obama if he was to win the Republican nomination.  Paul would be the lesser of two evils for me between him and Obama.

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« Reply #384 on: April 24, 2012, 11:18:18 AM »
McWooduck,
 
I would agree that it is not well received. The republican constituancy hasa been eating at the liberal trough for too long and now cannot imagine true freedom or living under the constitution as intended by the founders.
 
It's simple cowardice, but it's affects are profound.
For me Paul's message is 50/50
Half message, half the messenger  are things I like.
Not all that comes out of pauls mouth are things I can get behind.
And while I do not see Paul as a great candidate and some of his policies scare the crud out of me.  I would vote for him over Obama if he was to win the Republican nomination.  Paul would be the lesser of two evils for me between him and Obama.
Yes, I can see why he would scare you. He advocates true freedom and personal responsibility, that's some scary sh!ft right there!
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #385 on: April 24, 2012, 11:20:53 AM »
McWoodduck, I don't want a conservative, at least as defined in today's terms. I want a Libertarian. And if that is not possible, then I become a peaceful anarchist rejecting my republican and democrat overlords. Patrick Henry, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Sam and John Adams and many others were libertarians who changed the world. They accepted John Locke's premise of natural rights and did something about it. Unfortunately, it didn't last long as the statists began to grapple for power. The republicans by imperialism and the democrats with their welfare state. Unfortunately, they have given us the welfare/warfare state and it will end in a debt ridden implosive mess. Then what comes is the question? They are preparing for a totalitarian society, both parties. They both will fight to hold on to their power; damn the people. The people greatly outnumber them. What will the overlords do? What will the people do? In the pre-colonial days, if they did not like the royally appointed governor's edicts, they would cut off his funds.
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #386 on: April 24, 2012, 12:05:22 PM »
McWooduck,
 
I would agree that it is not well received. The republican constituancy hasa been eating at the liberal trough for too long and now cannot imagine true freedom or living under the constitution as intended by the founders.
 
It's simple cowardice, but it's affects are profound.
For me Paul's message is 50/50
Half message, half the messenger  are things I like.
Not all that comes out of pauls mouth are things I can get behind.
And while I do not see Paul as a great candidate and some of his policies scare the crud out of me.  I would vote for him over Obama if he was to win the Republican nomination.  Paul would be the lesser of two evils for me between him and Obama.
Yes, I can see why he would scare you. He advocates true freedom and personal responsibility, that's some scary sh!ft right there!
It is not the freedom or personal responsibility part that scares me, it is insane forgien policy that scares the crud out of me. 
You have called me a NEOCON and I think you have believed your labeling of me.
I am not what wikapedia calls a neo con.
I think the government should do what the constitution says it should.
I do not like how the government has grown and grown.  I see a parallel to Rome and to Greece and to their collapse.
Unlike Paul I think part of the government is to protect the US at home and abroad.  While Paul talks like he is the second comming of Jefferson he will not do what Jefferson did in protecting out citizens and trade. 

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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #387 on: April 24, 2012, 12:48:27 PM »
While Paul talks like he is the second comming of Jefferson he will not do what Jefferson did in protecting out citizens and trade.

Well if you believe that Romney WILL, you are in for a serious adjustment period. HIs foreign policy will be an extention of O'boys.

Meanwhile tell about how America's interventionalism has gained us friends and admiration world wide. As far as I can tell, most of the world despises the US, and they don't much fear us either. The poorest and most backwards people of the world have hit us on our own soil, and they continue to be a threat that is costing us our freedom, and money! Seems our foreign policies have been, for the most part, to our detriment.

But like most of new socialistrepublikon party, people here try to tell me, "we gotta stick with what we've been doing" (on multiple issues too). Well one of the definitions of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over...........and expecting different results!

I don't know what you are if neocon doesn't fit, kind of thought a neocon was someone pretending to be a conservative, but keeps supporting endless wars, and voting for more big government, while talking against it....kinda a liberal in drag maybe?

I donno, what DO you call someone who claims to be conservative, while encouraging liberal ideals, endless wars, and big government, votes for baby killing, socialist, gun grabbers, and believes that the end justifies the means.........history has shown us examples of such behaviour. :'(
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #388 on: April 24, 2012, 01:32:07 PM »
While Paul talks like he is the second comming of Jefferson he will not do what Jefferson did in protecting out citizens and trade.

Well if you believe that Romney WILL, you are in for a serious adjustment period. HIs foreign policy will be an extention of O'boys.

Meanwhile tell about how America's interventionalism has gained us friends and admiration world wide. As far as I can tell, most of the world despises the US, and they don't much fear us either. The poorest and most backwards people of the world have hit us on our own soil, and they continue to be a threat that is costing us our freedom, and money! Seems our foreign policies have been, for the most part, to our detriment.

But like most of new socialistrepublikon party, people here try to tell me, "we gotta stick with what we've been doing" (on multiple issues too). Well one of the definitions of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over...........and expecting different results!

I don't know what you are if neocon doesn't fit, kind of thought a neocon was someone pretending to be a conservative, but keeps supporting endless wars, and voting for more big government, while talking against it....kinda a liberal in drag maybe?

I donno, what DO you call someone who claims to be conservative, while encouraging liberal ideals, endless wars, and big government, votes for baby killing, socialist, gun grabbers, and believes that the end justifies the means.........history has shown us examples of such behaviour. :'(
Let's go back over a few things.
1) I am NOT a Rhomney Supporter
2) Between Rhomney, Obama, and a write in.  I understand Obama wins if  I write in a conservitive.
3) Our forgien Policy should favor our allies, harm our enemies, and make the ones on the fence want to be our allies. 
4) our military policy should be one to protect our country, it's citizens, our trade, and our allies.
5) our domestic policy should promote growth, should allow for construction, and the use of our natural resources.
6) our tax policy should be similar.  Allowing people to make economic desicions as to what to invest in and not what will cost the least in taxes.  Taxes should have a sunset and not tax cuts.
7) government is too big.  We need to cut down the massive size of the government and limit what they can do in rules and regulations and eliminate any redundancy or over lap. 
 8) Government spending to out of control  and built in raises are insane.  Base line budgeting should not be allowed.  Only in Washington DC is growing the government by 10% instead of 18% an 8% cut.
9) I also think if you are any kind of government program you should not be allowed to vote.  If you read the constitution you need ot own land to vote.
Paying taxes is the cuurent version of owning land.
I am NOT repeat NOT a Rhomney supporter.  But I understand we need ot give up a few things to not loose everything.
If Ron Paul some how pulls a rabbit out of the hat and walks away with the nomination, I will vote for him.  His faults are not a great as Obama's and his war on the middle class. 
Rhomney as the Republican nomination will not make me happy as he is the NEOCON you yell about.  he is not a conservitive and I have never said he was.  And the question is out of the two, if both are very similar what sets them apart?  And that is how you tell the lesser of two evils. 
If you think Obama is better for the country than Rhomney, vote 3rd party.
The other point I made is that if you vote third party you are not going ot send a message.  The people that voted Perot thought they would send a message and Clinton won with 40+% of the vote.and he called it a mandate.  the votes for perot, for any one but clinton were ignored and forgoten in history as if Perot never ran, those votes never counted.  When clearly 55%+ of the people that voted di not want Clinton he acted as if he was Ronald Reagan and won with a landslide and started to implament his destructive policies.
And the one thing that Rhomney has going for him is he wants a second term and will limit damage in those 1st 4 years.
Obama has 4 years to kill the country and stay in office becoming our dictator.
i am not saying do not support Paul till the end of the nomination process, push home your points that would make Paul a good President and why i should vote for him in the CA primary.  But in the end look at a scale of more than three things and see who is the lesser of two evils and no matter how untasteful those choices are you have ot pick the lesser of the two evils.
I find it odd that you have not problem with self defense for your self or for others but do not want ot extend that same belief to the military actions.
Thug is threating you, draw and shoot, a thug is threating your partner, draw and shoot.  Iran wants nukes to destroy Isreal and NYC, and to stop the flow of oil from the persian gulf... Well they have not done anything yet....
 
 
 

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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #389 on: April 24, 2012, 02:07:28 PM »
So.......you will vote for a baby killing, socialist, gun grabber out of your fear of of another baby killing, socialist, gun grabber and you excuse it in the name of endless wars...that have NOT protected us, our allies, or our trade?

You actually think that O'romeny will shrink government? He's a SOCIALIST fer cryin out loud! Get that part through your head! HE HAS CONSISTANTLY VOTED FOR SOCIALISTIC FREEDOM & BABY KILLING LAWS!!!!!!

You can make as many excuses as you want, that's all they are, excuses. An attempt to shift blame to those who demand true freedom and constitutional law.....no more, no less. It  doesn't change that evil is evil and you are willing to vote for it.
Keep doing it and expecting a different result...that's what the socialistrepublikon party has done for too long, but it will be easier and the trough might last a few months longer.

You will probably get Romeny or O'boy.......and it will be what you deserve.

Military actions? Let me see, how many nations that are shaking their fists at us now were once our "allies"? Remind me again.........

How about, bring our troops home, guard our borders, if another nation attacks us, then kick them back into the stone age....no more of this stupid, "fight for an objective" crap.....fight to WIN......unconditional surrender,no less! Our allies? What have they done for us lately? They've got their own military and I don't see them fighting for us......except as part of UN objectives, and we all know the UN LOVES us too, don't they?

No, the whole "fighting for our nation/allies over there" is just a red herring.......and it's starting to stink pretty bad. Keep our troops here to shoot the blue helmets when they show up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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