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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #180 on: April 12, 2012, 12:34:46 PM »

This is not the year for 3rd party antics, and I consider anyone that would do anything to risk putting Obama back in office as a traitor to this nation
I agree 100%

 
I consider anyone who votes for Obama or Romney to be a traitor to the constitution and the nation.

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!
Ok so let me see if I get this correct.  Good idea!
The 3rd party people here dislike Obama.  I am not 3rd party, I am Independent
They know that their vote for a 3rd party conservitive will lead to the ellection of Obama to a 2nd term and he is completly ANTI constitution. No.  Those that vote for Obama and the ones who voted for Romney in the primaries are responsible.
While I am not voting for Rhomney I am voting against OBAMA as I feel it is my duty to defend the constitution any way possible and voting 3rd party  or write in, may make me feel better, the result is the destruction of the constitution with an Obama 3rd term.  Is Obama getting a 3rd term?
I see the third party people as giving aid and comfort the the enemy.   So the enemy of my enemy is my friend, NOT! Romney is as be of an enemy of the constitution as Obama is.
You can call me a tratior if you want I know that my vote is going against the largest threat we have.   By voting for another threat, when there is a choice for a constitution friendly candidate?
And while I am not going ot insult you for you desicion as you have tried to insult us.   
But your comments about Paul and his constitional stance weakens our country with his head in the sand isolationist ideas and they are more dangerous to our nation than the head aches under Mit as he is a Republican and the Media will go after him non stop.  The will not want him to do liberal things and allow the Republicans to get credit for it and they will not allow him to do conservitive things as they are opposed.  Romney is a stop gap.  A do nothing, that we can at least halt the OBAMA march of lies and destruction.   Romney's record shows he will continue the lies and destruction.In 2016 maybe we cna get a real Conservitive to run.  Someone that embraces the Ronald Regan platform of Tax cuts, the greatness of America, the limits of Goverment and can expain them to the nation. I had that hope for the last few elections.  Maybe I just do not understand the BANZI charge mentality of the Ron Paul people.  Your a coward if you do not go down with us even though we have NO chance of winning seems childish and silly to me.   I does not matter if Obama or Romney wins. They are too much alike.  I will continue to fight for the return to constitutional government.
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #181 on: April 12, 2012, 01:05:21 PM »

This is not the year for 3rd party antics, and I consider anyone that would do anything to risk putting Obama back in office as a traitor to this nation
I agree 100%

 
I consider anyone who votes for Obama or Romney to be a traitor to the constitution and the nation.

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!
Ok so let me see if I get this correct.  Good idea!
The 3rd party people here dislike Obama.  I am not 3rd party, I am Independent
They know that their vote for a 3rd party conservitive will lead to the ellection of Obama to a 2nd term and he is completly ANTI constitution. No.  Those that vote for Obama and the ones who voted for Romney in the primaries are responsible.
While I am not voting for Rhomney I am voting against OBAMA as I feel it is my duty to defend the constitution any way possible and voting 3rd party  or write in, may make me feel better, the result is the destruction of the constitution with an Obama 3rd term.  Is Obama getting a 3rd term?
I see the third party people as giving aid and comfort the the enemy.   So the enemy of my enemy is my friend, NOT! Romney is as be of an enemy of the constitution as Obama is.
You can call me a tratior if you want I know that my vote is going against the largest threat we have.   By voting for another threat, when there is a choice for a constitution friendly candidate?
And while I am not going ot insult you for you desicion as you have tried to insult us.   
But your comments about Paul and his constitional stance weakens our country with his head in the sand isolationist ideas and they are more dangerous to our nation than the head aches under Mit as he is a Republican and the Media will go after him non stop.  The will not want him to do liberal things and allow the Republicans to get credit for it and they will not allow him to do conservitive things as they are opposed.  Romney is a stop gap.  A do nothing, that we can at least halt the OBAMA march of lies and destruction.   Romney's record shows he will continue the lies and destruction.In 2016 maybe we cna get a real Conservitive to run.  Someone that embraces the Ronald Regan platform of Tax cuts, the greatness of America, the limits of Goverment and can expain them to the nation. I had that hope for the last few elections.  Maybe I just do not understand the BANZI charge mentality of the Ron Paul people.  Your a coward if you do not go down with us even though we have NO chance of winning seems childish and silly to me. 
I was responding the the Trator comment.
And the 3rd  term was a typo but as we all know once the communist dear leader wins his second ellection all other ellections will be a formality

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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #182 on: April 13, 2012, 01:34:55 AM »
Just food for thought, Mitt Espouses none of these.

“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs
which must not be compromised to political expediency or simply to swell its numbers.”—Ronald Reagan 1975

“Don’t give up your ideals, don’t compromise, don’t turn to expediency — and don’t, for heaven’s sake, having seen the inner workings of the watch — don’t get cynical.”—Ronald Reagan, 1976


“Principle Over Politics” means that we are calling on our fellow Americans to vote on the basis of the principles espoused and practiced by a candidate, rather than mere party affiliation or supposed political expediency.
  - Constitution Party of Washington


Do not let arguments of expediency persuade you. That is the slow road to oblivion. That is the tortured path to undoing step by step, bit by bit, as the river creates a canyon, the way of life that we love.
- Charles Schumer
 
The most useful thing about a principle is that it can always be sacrificed to expediency. 
- W. Somerset Maugham
  When virtue is lost, benevolence appears, when benevolence is lost right conduct appears, when right conduct is lost, expedience appears. Expediency is the mere shadow of right and truth; it is the beginning of disorder.
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So......you still think I am a traitor?
 
If so, I know what I think of y'all. :-[
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #183 on: April 13, 2012, 02:13:27 AM »
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Be much easier to elect someone who believes in our constitution up front.

 
 
LOL.  Not if he's unelectable.  Oh, and please don't tell me if people would vote for him he would be electable.




Definition of



Electable
Fit or able to be elected, especially to public office


Unelectable
Unfit or Unable to be elected, especially to public office


One would think since he's been elected to the house again and again, he would be considered ELECTABLE!So..........I guess all it would take is to pull the......."OOPS" sorry!You asked not to hear that!
he's not running for the house.  he's running for president.
he is UN-ELECTABLE!!!!!
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #184 on: April 13, 2012, 08:18:19 AM »
he's not running for the house.  he's running for president.
he is UN-ELECTABLE!!!!!
he is certainly electable.......if we had enough conservatives with principles.
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #185 on: April 13, 2012, 08:26:40 AM »
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he is certainly electable.......if we had enough conservatives with principles.

 
 
 
Yep, IF only he could get enough votes, he could win.      ::)
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #186 on: April 13, 2012, 08:32:19 AM »
he's not running for the house.  he's running for president.
he is UN-ELECTABLE!!!!!
he is certainly electable.......if we had enough conservatives with principles.

We do have people with principles, unfortunatly the Conservitives in the Race Dropped out.  The three left are a semi Socilaist, Someone that has been demonized by the media for years and has done some stupid things, and a NEO confederate that has some race issues. 
So with your Principles what if we look at reality and all gather around Newt as the ellectible of the people left and get him Nominated.
And to answer your questions Paul is not Ellectable.  To be ellectable you have to have enough votes  to be ellected he does not as for some reason people are flocking to Rhomney.  The Media has their spot lights on him for the time being, Much like McCain they will turn on him.
 

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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #187 on: April 13, 2012, 08:41:55 AM »
he's not running for the house.  he's running for president.
he is UN-ELECTABLE!!!!!
he is certainly electable.......if we had enough conservatives with principles.

We do have people with principles, unfortunatly the Conservitives in the Race Dropped out.  The three left are a semi Socilaist, Someone that has been demonized by the media for years and has done some stupid things, and a NEO confederate that has some race issues. 
So with your Principles what if we look at reality and all gather around Newt as the ellectible of the people left and get him Nominated.
And to answer your questions Paul is not Ellectable.  To be ellectable you have to have enough votes  to be ellected he does not as for some reason people are flocking to Rhomney.  The Media has their spot lights on him for the time being, Much like McCain they will turn on him.

LOL!!!!!!!!! My freind, the media told us exactly what it is doing. They showed the poll figures showing that Romeny cannot beat Obummer, and then they gave him all the air time he could stand......they know exactly what they are doing.
 
The real bottom line is that that theere are not enough prinicpled conservatives left, only neo cons. And THAT is the end of America, the land of the free...... :'(
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #188 on: April 13, 2012, 08:42:11 AM »
If Ron Paul was electable as president, he would of been elected in one of the 3 prior attempts. But as he can't even muster more than 25% of the vote in the primary he doesn't stand any chance of being in the general election, except as a 3rd party spoiler.
 We've been thru the 3rd party spoiler bit already, and if you really think 3rd party doesn't hurt, ask Al Gore what might have been had Nader not been on the ballot in Florida.....
The only way a 3rd party would work to not muck things up in the general would be a change in the electoral system whereby anybody and everybody that can write good checks in all 50 states get's on the ballot, then after the votes are cast and tallied the top 2 vote getters go on to the final election. That's the only way a president can be choosen by a clear majority of the votes cast.
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« Reply #189 on: April 13, 2012, 09:07:57 AM »
If Ron Paul was electable as president, he would of been elected in one of the 3 prior attempts. But as he can't even muster more than 25% of the vote in the primary he doesn't stand any chance of being in the general election, except as a 3rd party spoiler.
 We've been thru the 3rd party spoiler bit already, and if you really think 3rd party doesn't hurt, ask Al Gore what might have been had Nader not been on the ballot in Florida.....
The only way a 3rd party would work to not muck things up in the general would be a change in the electoral system whereby anybody and everybody that can write good checks in all 50 states get's on the ballot, then after the votes are cast and tallied the top 2 vote getters go on to the final election. That's the only way a president can be choosen by a clear majority of the votes cast.


i was a registered libertarian then
i almost voted for the libertaian candidate that year....the lessor of 2 is stil evil crap
i am in florrida


chaney   only won by 13? votes
what if me and 150 others voted libertarian or constitution  or reform parties


you can bet the liberals will be solid behind a 2nd obumer  term


ya''ll keep your pride and pave the way for an out of control 2nd obumer term




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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #190 on: April 13, 2012, 09:26:12 AM »
The only reason that he is "unelectable is because America doesn't have enough principled conservative, much like GBO.......just Neocons ::)
 
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Just food for thought, Mitt Espouses none of these.

“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs
which must not be compromised to political expediency or simply to swell its numbers.”—Ronald Reagan 1975

“Don’t give up your ideals, don’t compromise, don’t turn to expediency — and don’t, for heaven’s sake, having seen the inner workings of the watch — don’t get cynical.”—Ronald Reagan, 1976


“Principle Over Politics” means that we are calling on our fellow Americans to vote on the basis of the principles espoused and practiced by a candidate, rather than mere party affiliation or supposed political expediency.
  - Constitution Party of Washington


Do not let arguments of expediency persuade you. That is the slow road to oblivion. That is the tortured path to undoing step by step, bit by bit, as the river creates a canyon, the way of life that we love.
- Charles Schumer
 
The most useful thing about a principle is that it can always be sacrificed to expediency. 
- W. Somerset Maugham
  When virtue is lost, benevolence appears, when benevolence is lost right conduct appears, when right conduct is lost, expedience appears. Expediency is the mere shadow of right and truth; it is the beginning of disorder.
- Lao Tzu
 
 I was raised with those principals and values and ethics that came out of the men and women that served. But this generation doesn't quite know; they haven't been tested.  - Jack Scalia

Patriotism must be founded on great principals and supported by great virtue.  - Henry Bolingbroke
   
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #191 on: April 13, 2012, 09:45:55 AM »
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The only reason that he is "unelectable

 
 
Finally, you acknowledge the plain and obvious.
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #192 on: April 13, 2012, 09:59:09 AM »
The only reason that he is "unelectable is because America doesn't have enough principled conservative, much like GBO.......just Neocons ::) 
 
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #193 on: April 13, 2012, 10:02:01 AM »
I never realized that "principled conservatives" care more about their ego than their country.
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #194 on: April 13, 2012, 12:33:48 PM »
I never realized that "principled conservatives" care more about their ego than their country.

Just food for thought, Mitt Espouses none of these.

“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs
which must not be compromised to political expediency or simply to swell its numbers.”—Ronald Reagan 1975

“Don’t give up your ideals, don’t compromise, don’t turn to expediency — and don’t, for heaven’s sake, having seen the inner workings of the watch — don’t get cynical.”—Ronald Reagan, 1976


“Principle Over Politics” means that we are calling on our fellow Americans to vote on the basis of the principles espoused and practiced by a candidate, rather than mere party affiliation or supposed political expediency.
  - Constitution Party of Washington


Do not let arguments of expediency persuade you. That is the slow road to oblivion. That is the tortured path to undoing step by step, bit by bit, as the river creates a canyon, the way of life that we love.
- Charles Schumer
 
The most useful thing about a principle is that it can always be sacrificed to expediency. 
- W. Somerset Maugham
  When virtue is lost, benevolence appears, when benevolence is lost right conduct appears, when right conduct is lost, expedience appears. Expediency is the mere shadow of right and truth; it is the beginning of disorder.
- Lao Tzu
 
 I was raised with those principals and values and ethics that came out of the men and women that served. But this generation doesn't quite know; they haven't been tested.  - Jack Scalia

Patriotism must be founded on great principals and supported by great virtue.  - Henry Bolingbroke
Smokeless is only a passing fad!

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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #195 on: April 13, 2012, 12:42:48 PM »
I never realized that "principled conservatives" care more about their ego than their country.

Just food for thought, Mitt Espouses none of these.

“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs
which must not be compromised to political expediency or simply to swell its numbers.”—Ronald Reagan 1975

“Don’t give up your ideals, don’t compromise, don’t turn to expediency — and don’t, for heaven’s sake, having seen the inner workings of the watch — don’t get cynical.”—Ronald Reagan, 1976


“Principle Over Politics” means that we are calling on our fellow Americans to vote on the basis of the principles espoused and practiced by a candidate, rather than mere party affiliation or supposed political expediency.
  - Constitution Party of Washington


Do not let arguments of expediency persuade you. That is the slow road to oblivion. That is the tortured path to undoing step by step, bit by bit, as the river creates a canyon, the way of life that we love.
- Charles Schumer
 
The most useful thing about a principle is that it can always be sacrificed to expediency. 
- W. Somerset Maugham
  When virtue is lost, benevolence appears, when benevolence is lost right conduct appears, when right conduct is lost, expedience appears. Expediency is the mere shadow of right and truth; it is the beginning of disorder.
- Lao Tzu
 
 I was raised with those principals and values and ethics that came out of the men and women that served. But this generation doesn't quite know; they haven't been tested.  - Jack Scalia

Patriotism must be founded on great principals and supported by great virtue.  - Henry Bolingbroke
And neather does OBAMA!  As a matter of Fact Obama opposes everytning on your list openly!
And just because Obama has not gone after guns yet does not mean it is not on his list of things to do. 

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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #196 on: April 13, 2012, 01:04:49 PM »

The real bottom line is that that theere are not enough prinicpled conservatives left, only neo cons. And THAT is the end of America, the land of the free...... :'(
The VAST majority of the people at this site are highly principled. and the majority of those are card carrying Christians.
I think you're being unfair to some good people.
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #197 on: April 13, 2012, 03:13:21 PM »

The real bottom line is that that theere are not enough prinicpled conservatives left, only neo cons. And THAT is the end of America, the land of the free...... :'(
The VAST majority of the people at this site are highly principled. and the majority of those are card carrying Christians.
I think you're being unfair to some good people.

You know,I wish I could believe that, I really do!  But the attitude I've seen displayed here over the past week or two has been anything but principled, and what has been directed at those who want to vote for a true conservative has definately NOT been Christian. And the funny thing is, I will probably be chastized for saying so.

And I could start a whole other thread on "WWJD?" :-\ But this is not permitted, nor the proper place. :-X
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« Reply #198 on: April 13, 2012, 04:04:37 PM »

The real bottom line is that that theere are not enough prinicpled conservatives left, only neo cons. And THAT is the end of America, the land of the free...... :'(
The VAST majority of the people at this site are highly principled. and the majority of those are card carrying Christians.
I think you're being unfair to some good people.
You know,I wish I could believe that, I really do!  But the attitude I've seen displayed here over the past week or two has been anything but principled, and what has been directed at those who want to vote for a true conservative has definately NOT been Christian. And the funny thing is, I will probably be chastized for saying so.

And I could start a whole other thread on "WWJD?" :-\ But this is not permitted, nor the proper place. :-X
Thinking about your posts I have come to a few conclusions.
1) by being a 3rd party person you admit that Ron Paul is not ellectable as he can not get the nomination of the party and you are trying to get him to run as something else.
2) you are very narrow minded, your scratch pads are probably only 1/2" wide.
3) you see the flaws in other candidates, but will not look at the flaws in your candidate.
4) just because other people do not share your principals does not mean that they are without principals.
5) your, my way or I am wrecking the whole game is pretty childish. Allowing Obama to stay in office is our biggest problem.
we are where we are by incramentalism. The left has pulled the country to the left one inch ata time through bulling and lies. We are not going to get back to the right or correct path in one leap. And many 75% or more of the registered Republicans do not see the Paul's leap as the correct path.

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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #199 on: April 13, 2012, 05:27:22 PM »

The real bottom line is that that theere are not enough prinicpled conservatives left, only neo cons. And THAT is the end of America, the land of the free...... :'(
The VAST majority of the people at this site are highly principled. and the majority of those are card carrying Christians.
I think you're being unfair to some good people.
You know,I wish I could believe that, I really do!  But the attitude I've seen displayed here over the past week or two has been anything but principled, and what has been directed at those who want to vote for a true conservative has definately NOT been Christian. And the funny thing is, I will probably be chastized for saying so.

And I could start a whole other thread on "WWJD?" :-\ But this is not permitted, nor the proper place. :-X
Thinking about your posts I have come to a few conclusions.
1) by being a 3rd party person you admit that Ron Paul is not ellectable as he can not get the nomination of the party and you are trying to get him to run as something else.
 


Really..? Well as I see it every state has had discrepancies in the votes and many of them against RP which is all in the open. They do not deny it and have even joked about it. So we do not know if RP could win the nomination because the SYSTEM and those run it have enough folks like you who will let them do anything they want and then call it fair. So until we have FAIR elections where the votes that are cast are the ones counted and no funny business then if RP loses then you can say he is unelectable but until then all we know is that those who really select the candidate ( NOT THE PEOPLE) don't want RP which should be enough to make everyone see RP as the real best choice but all the neo-cons cant seem to figure our how to remove their heads from the sand long enough to see what is really going on. 
 

2) you are very narrow minded, your scratch pads are probably only 1/2" wide. Nearing a personal attack. watch it.
3) you see the flaws in other candidates, but will not look at the flaws in your candidate.
4) just because other people do not share your principals does not mean that they are without principals.
5) your, my way or I am wrecking the whole game is pretty childish. Allowing Obama to stay in office is our biggest problem.
we are where we are by incramentalism. The left has pulled the country to the left one inch ata time through bulling and lies. We are not going to get back to the right or correct path in one leap. And many 75% or more of the registered Republicans do not see the Paul's leap as the correct path.

I will agree that we have gotten to this point over many years but IT IS BOTH SIDES NOT JUST THE LEFT. It is the idea that we have to choose from one or the other "Lessor Evil" that has gotten us here. If people would DEMAND representation that reflects their views then we might be able to turn this all around even though I don't see it ever happening.
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« Reply #200 on: April 13, 2012, 06:12:50 PM »
Yes nearly a personal attck!  With a little humor.
Unlike your agreeing that anyone who does not want Paul as a 3rd party candidate and is willing to Vote Rhomney to get rid of Obama a trator.  That is a personal attack.  And yet you did not scold them, you agreed with it.  I am sure I would have been scolded if I had called any of the 3rd party people trators or Communits for wanting Obama to win if their candidate can not.
I also have not said anything about the system to pick a Candidate.  It is what it is, unfair or not.  All of them knew the system when they signed up to run.  And yes the system went against the candidate I wanted.  The whole Caucus system was set up to help candidates like Rhomney or Paul.  Cadidates with a strong campains and extremely loyal followers that will help small groups to follw them.  The early primarys are won by who has the most $ and can get the most attention.  Unfortunatly it was Rhomney.  But complaining about it is like the Fat kid saying that the Marathon is unfair and favors the popular kids and after loosing.  Sounds like childish sour grapes.

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« Reply #201 on: April 13, 2012, 08:01:18 PM »
Sounds like childish sour grapes.
umm and crying the world is going to end if Obama gets a 2nd term isnt? I seem to recall many the same things being said about Slick Willy also. Wow here we are almost 12 years after he left and we still have guns.  Now mind you I am no fool and am well aware that they would take our guns the first chance they get but it will not be Obama. The Right has been the one on the side of Gun Owners and it will be the Right that takes them away because they already have your trust... undeserving I might add.
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« Reply #202 on: April 14, 2012, 01:43:10 AM »
Sounds like childish sour grapes.
umm and crying the world is going to end if Obama gets a 2nd term isnt? I seem to recall many the same things being said about Slick Willy also. Wow here we are almost 12 years after he left and we still have guns.  Now mind you I am no fool and am well aware that they would take our guns the first chance they get but it will not be Obama. The Right has been the one on the side of Gun Owners and it will be the Right that takes them away because they already have your trust... undeserving I might add.
Slick Willy never got caught on open mic telling the Russian prime minister to wait until after the election he'ld have more flexibility to do what he wanted then either.....  What do you suppose that was all about?
Slick Willy didn't have an energy sect. that ran around the world telling other governments he wanted to bring the price of gas in the US to European levels.
Slick Willy didn't have a treasury sect, that for reasons known only to him didn't pay a serious amount of income tax, that would of got folks like us tossed into the bighouse.....
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« Reply #203 on: April 14, 2012, 02:04:47 AM »
third party folks remind me of that classic picture of the ostritch with his head in the sand.
haven't y'all noticed what obama has done in the last four years?
congress passed a bill that restored parental rights over minor children and RP said it was unconstitutional.
congress passed a bill protecting legal products from frivilous lawsuits when a bad guy uses that product to commit a crime.  RP said it was unconstitutional.

If the constitution is the law of the land, aka, the United States of America, how is it enforced.
the SCOTUS is to slow to get anything done.  look how many years it took to get DCs gun laws struck down.  and then they just made some NEW laws restricting rights.

but none of this matters, we'll be under communism in seven months.
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« Reply #204 on: April 14, 2012, 02:14:47 AM »
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The real bottom line is that that theere are not enough prinicpled conservatives left, only neo cons. And THAT is the end of America, the land of the free...... :'(
The VAST majority of the people at this site are highly principled. and the majority of those are card carrying Christians.
I think you're being unfair to some good people.

You know,I wish I could believe that, I really do!  But the attitude I've seen displayed here over the past week or two has been anything but principled, and what has been directed at those who want to vote for a true conservative has definately NOT been Christian. And the funny thing is, I will probably be chastized for saying so.

And I could start a whole other thread on "WWJD?" :-\ But this is not permitted, nor the proper place. :-X

Thinking about your posts I have come to a few conclusions.
1) by being a 3rd party person you admit that Ron Paul is not ellectable as he can not get the nomination of the party and you are trying to get him to run as something else.
2) you are very narrow minded, your scratch pads are probably only 1/2" wide.
3) you see the flaws in other candidates, but will not look at the flaws in your candidate.
4) just because other people do not share your principals does not mean that they are without principals.
5) your, my way or I am wrecking the whole game is pretty childish. Allowing Obama to stay in office is our biggest problem.
we are where we are by incramentalism. The left has pulled the country to the left one inch ata time through bulling and lies. We are not going to get back to the right or correct path in one leap. And many 75% or more of the registered Republicans do not see the Paul's leap as the correct path.


Well, I'll give credit where it's due, you are consistant. But failed to even try to answer the actual content of my post.....could be an extrodinarily good reason for that.
 
But I will address at least part of yours....Incrementalism: Would like you to tell me how it's helped us in any way over the past 50 years......remembering that we've had at least one pretty exceptional conservative in office during that time period, and several other republicans too.....did government get any smaller under any of them, did freedom from government intrusion get less, did the constant slidetowards liberalism stop. Or did the republicans just keep running down the road that left dictates, like they were in a double harness with them? In point of fact, the republicans have behaved like an extention of the democratic party, as Matt has pointed out before.
 
And what's really hilarious is that when I show quotes from our conservative heros from the past, telling you exactly what I've been telling you, you don't adress them either, you ignore them. Wonder why that is? Could it be that they were true conservatives, unlike the pale reflection that remains today?
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« Reply #205 on: April 14, 2012, 02:50:12 AM »
..Incrementalism: Would like you to tell me how it's helped us in any way over the past 50 years......
It hasn't helped us.  it's a tactic used by liberals.  and that's because liberals actually WORK toward their goals.
I have told friends about the letters and e-mails I send and they say, hmmm I should do that. :o
If we conservatives put as much effort into the political process as the liberals do, this would be a free country again.
look at the OWSers, they're liberals.  when is the last time you saw conservatives working that hard?  I've been to a couple of Tea-Party rallies, and they're great, but nobody notices.
but one thing is for sure, it will only get worse if all you do is whine and throw away you vote.
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« Reply #206 on: April 14, 2012, 03:02:20 AM »
..Incrementalism: Would like you to tell me how it's helped us in any way over the past 50 years......
It hasn't helped us.  it's a tactic used by liberals.  and that's because liberals actually WORK toward their goals.
I have told friends about the letters and e-mails I send and they say, hmmm I should do that. :o
If we conservatives put as much effort into the political process as the liberals do, this would be a free country again.
look at the OWSers, they're liberals.  when is the last time you saw conservatives working that hard?  I've been to a couple of Tea-Party rallies, and they're great, but nobody notices.
but one thing is for sure, it will only get worse if all you do is whine and throw away you vote.

RIOFLMBO!!!!!!! <gasp> <wheeze> <snort> <chuckle> LOL!!!!
 
On the one hand a "conservative" tells me we've got to vote for Oromney because we need to incrementally get our freedoms back........and then I'm told that "conservatives" don't do things that way!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
LOL!!!! Seriously, I can't make this sh&^ up!!!!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
 
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« Reply #207 on: April 14, 2012, 03:20:51 AM »
I've suggested many times that we come together and work to redeem our freedoms.
but the arrogant attitude of the RPers will never let it happen.
instead of being part of the problem, you should be trying to be part of the solution.
the membership of GBO is not the ones who will elect the president.
the MAJORITY of the people in this country do NOT want Ron Paul, and the sooner y'all realize it, the sooner we could do some good.
but, RP has shown a nasty attitude also when asked hard questions about coming together, so I guess I'm just beating a dead horse.
obama will probably give putin a vacation home in Vale.
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RP has shown a nasty attitude also when asked hard questions about coming together
<snort> LOL!!!
 
 
Sorry, that's what happens when a true conservative is asked to work with socialists.
 
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And what's really hilarious is that when I show quotes from our conservative heros from the past, telling you exactly what I've been telling you, you don't adress them either, you ignore them.

 
 
 
ROFLMA!!   Cuts crooked, did you happen to notice that one of those "conservative heros from the past" that you quoted was Chuckie Schumer? 
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