The Official Lesser of Two Evils List

[BUGEYE]

Ummm, seeing as how I was a political science major, I guess you got me.  I just don't get it.   

It's quite obvious that RP supporters DON'T get it.  the best they can do is insult people.
infantile babble is the best they can do.

[Matt]

Ummm, seeing as how I was a political science major, I guess you got me.  I just don't get it.   

 Let me help you out then,
Romney can get votes from those in the GOP willing to vote anyone in with an R by their name and may even be able to pull some of the more right leaning liberals. He can not pull from the Libertarian Party, Constitution Party, Green Party, Reform Party or the Third Party. So that limits Romney on the TOTAL NATIONAL votes that he can pull.
Obama will pull from his base and he will also get some of the left leaning republicans, Green Party, Socialist Party and Communist Party.
Paul will pull all of the Libertarian Party and  Constitution Party plus he will get a lot of votes from these parties.
Democratic Party
Green Party
Republican Party
Reform Party
Third Party / Independents

So in the end Ron Paul is able to beat the other two in NATIONAL elections because he appeals to a wider range of people thus more people.
Hope that helps you to understand a little better now.


Matt

[Casull]

Hope that helps you to understand a little better now.

 
 
Oh, I understand what you fellows are saying, I just don't buy it.  Pipe dreams, pure and simple.

[Cuts Crooked]

Ummm, seeing as how I was a political science major, I guess you got me.  I just don't get it.   

It's quite obvious that RP supporters DON'T get it.  the best they can do is insult people.
infantile babble is the best they can do.

Brings to mind an old saying about a pot and a kettle.
I just love watching this guy repeatedly accusing others of exactly what he is doing!!!!!

[Lost Farmboy]

Ummm, seeing as how I was a political science major, I guess you got me.  I just don't get it.   

It's quite obvious that RP supporters DON'T get it.  the best they can do is insult people.
infantile babble is the best they can do.

Brings to mind an old saying about a pot and a kettle.
I just love watching this guy repeatedly accusing others of exactly what he is doing!!!!!

+ 1

[BUGEYE]

Thinking back over this campaign, I can't remember a single person starting out as a Romney supporter.  but, there may have been a few.  it was the majority of people OUT THERE that voted for Romney.  but, the majority here realize the problem of letting obama continue.
I didn't vote for Romney in the primary, but I certainly will in november.
why you ask?  because I care about this country.

[Gary G]

Hope that helps you to understand a little better now.

 
 
Oh, I understand what you fellows are saying, I just don't buy it.  Pipe dreams, pure and simple.

"President Obama and Mitt Romney are tied in a national head-to-head match-up, according to the latest survey from conservative polling outlet Rasmussen. Each pulled 45 percent, while Texas Rep. Ron Paul (R) edged Obama 44 to 43 in the daily tracking poll."  http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/221163-rasmussen-obama-and-romney-tied-nationally

[Cuts Crooked]

I also love the way some people have no other argument so they struggle to make a comparision between RP and Hitler. Now THAT'S  desperation taken to an extreme!

Pretty odious when you think about the fact the RP is the only one in the race touting our constitution and freedom. I mean come on...you got two gun grabbing socialists running and they compare Paul to Hitler in order to try to convince others to vote for one of THEM!.........Serious mental health problems maybe?

[Gary G]

Ummm, seeing as how I was a political science major, I guess you got me.  I just don't get it.   

It's quite obvious that RP supporters DON'T get it.  the best they can do is insult people.
infantile babble is the best they can do.

Divide et impera is an old Latin term. It means "divide and rule". It is a strategy governments have perfected over the years to rule and extract power from the people. An example would be the democrats vs  republicans. The people who don't understand are divided and weakened, which is almost everyone. As a result, government grows in size as well as in encroachment of our liberties and what it must steal from us in taxes, regardless of the party in power. Look at recent US history and you can't possibly deny this.  Those who understand Ron Paul and have read his books understand that Ron Paul desires to peacefully dismantle the oligarchical system that is currently in place. That is why it is called the "Ron Paul Revolution". Ron Paul is the Sam Adams and Thomas Paine of today.  It is the ideal of liberty that we Paulinians vote for. A vote any different is a vote for divide et impera.
So, Bugeye, who doesn't get it? (Well, in truth, there are many, just as there was in 1776.)

[mcwoodduck]

I also love the way some people have no other argument so they struggle to make a comparision between RP and Hitler. Now THAT'S  desperation taken to an extreme!

Pretty odious when you think about the fact the RP is the only one in the race touting our constitution and freedom. I mean come on...you got two gun grabbing socialists running and they compare Paul to Hitler in order to try to convince others to vote for one of THEM!.........Serious mental health problems maybe?

You compare Rhomney to Obama, what is more of an insult,  Being compared to Hitler ot Obama?

[Cuts Crooked]

I also love the way some people have no other argument so they struggle to make a comparision between RP and Hitler. Now THAT'S  desperation taken to an extreme!

Pretty odious when you think about the fact the RP is the only one in the race touting our constitution and freedom. I mean come on...you got two gun grabbing socialists running and they compare Paul to Hitler in order to try to convince others to vote for one of THEM!.........Serious mental health problems maybe?

You compare Rhomney to Obama, what is more of an insult,  Being compared to Hitler ot Obama?

What can I say? They are BOTH socialist gun grabbers.
 
However, in the social enviroment of todays world, being compared to Hitler is about the vilest insult one can come up with. In fact even the socialstdemolibs use it in that manner...but being compared to Obummer is wonderful in their eyes......So I'd have to ssay one is indeed worse than the other. And I might mention that certain persons right here will use "Obama Supporter" as a vile insult too. Disgusting, but what can one expect from a neocon....

[BUGEYE]

Ranch13 laid out the similarities pretty well between RP and hitler and
I've already given two examples where RP voted to take away rights.
so maybe that mental health problem you spoke of is right there in your own head.
so how many people do you know of at this site that voted for Romney??
MOST of the folks here will face reallity and work to remove the communist from the whitehouse.

[Cuts Crooked]

Ranch13 laid out the similarities pretty well between RP and hitler and
I've already given two examples where RP voted to take away rights.
so maybe that mental health problem you spoke of is right there in your own head.
so how many people do you know of at this site that voted for Romney??
MOST of the folks here will face reallity and work to remove the communist from the whitehouse.

Ranch is wrong, Paul has never voted against the constitution......period.
 
And not once have any of you denied that Romney is a gun grabbing socialist...you can't...but you will vote for that. Like they say, "liberalism is a serious mental problem".

[BUGEYE]

Ranch13 laid out the similarities pretty well between RP and hitler and
I've already given two examples where RP voted to take away rights.
so maybe that mental health problem you spoke of is right there in your own head.
so how many people do you know of at this site that voted for Romney??
MOST of the folks here will face reallity and work to remove the communist from the whitehouse.

Ranch is wrong, Paul has never voted against the constitution......period.
 
And not once have any of you denied that Romney is a gun grabbing socialist...you can't...but you will vote for that. Like they say, "liberalism is a serious mental problem".

well it's obvious that you don't read every post or your memory is about one minute long.
IG addressed the gun issue in a very well worded post and I agreed then about everything he said.  I addressed the issue of blaming gun makers for the crimes commited with a gun, and the issue of parental rights over minor children.  RP voted with the democrats on both issues.
I don't expect you to remember any of this.

[Cuts Crooked]

He didn't, because the idea was to completely exempt gun manufacture from ANY lawsuits. (I've got a longer memory than you apparently) so they couldn't even be sued for a defective product......something the entire gun using world wants to forget. Sure it would have stopped "frivolous" suits, but some poor scmuck whpo had a defective breech let go in his face would have been SOL too. Not to mention that constitutional law allows for lawsuits..it doesn't forbid them.
 
What a lot of you people seem to completely forget is that the constitution is there to RESTRICT the GOVERNMENT, not citizens. 

[Ranch13]

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Ranch is wrong, Paul has never voted against the constitution......period.
 

Ranch never said Paul voted against the constitution.
Altho there are a couple of votes , that sure don't make sense and his response as to why he voted that way can certainly cause free thinking people to call into question his actual knowledge and support of the constitution...
 What Ranch laid out is a mere comparison using well documented examples of the almost spooky similarities between Hitler and his followers and Paul....

[Cuts Crooked]

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Ranch is wrong, Paul has never voted against the constitution......period.
 

Ranch never said Paul voted against the constitution.  
No, but buggy tries to make it sound that way, sorry you got caught up in his parsimmony. What Ranch laid out is a mere comparison using well documented examples of the almost spooky similarities between Hitler and his followers and Paul.... Not anywahere near as sppoky as the similarities b'tween Obummer and Oromney.

[BUGEYE]

He didn't, because the idea was to completely exempt gun manufacture from ANY lawsuits. (I've got a longer memory than you apparently) so they couldn't even be sued for a defective product......something the entire gun using world wants to forget. Sure it would have stopped "frivolous" suits, but some poor scmuck whpo had a defective breech let go in his face would have been SOL too. Not to mention that constitutional law allows for lawsuits..it doesn't forbid them.
 
What a lot of you people seem to completely forget is that the constitution is there to RESTRICT the GOVERNMENT, not citizens. 

well you're certainly wrong about that. anyone can sue for defective products.
the law is to stop gun makers from being sued because some crook used their product to commit a crime.  congress actually used the constitution against those who would nullify the 2nd amendment.   the antis could have sued the gun makers out of existance before it ever came before the SCOTUS.  and you know how that would go with a bunch of obama appointees.

[Ranch13]

I can't quite make the connection between Obama and Romney. Romney is liberal leaning, but Obama is an out and out socialist dictator wannabee, that never held a real job in his life. Romney while maybe not ever having a real job, certainly made his fortune.
Obama clearly threatened the supreme court the other day.
Romney never did that when he was governor.Romney was governor of an extremely liberal state, and the sad thing is it was the same place that most of the forefathers took their stand in. So anything he signed into law that came from the democratically held legislature may or may not of been his fault.
While I would of rather seen one of the other republicans got the nomination, I will vote for him in November,if the trend continues and he is in fact the republican nominee. To vote for anyone else in the November election is handing a vote to Obama, and this country will not survive a second Obama term, especially if republicans loose the house and or hand back total control to the democrats in the senate.
Have said it time and again and will do so one more time. If you have a democrat rep to the US congress, you need to do what ever you can to replace that person with someone from another party.
All this crap about how bad the republicans are from the Paulistinians is enough to make a person stop and wonder..... If the republicans are so bad, then why is Paul running on the republican ticket for the second time for president, and he hasn't been on the ballot on any other parties ticket for the Congress in the last dozen or so terms he's held.

[blind ear]

Cuts Crooked, solid to the last drop. ear

[BUGEYE]

Ranch13, well thought out and well worded. common sense there.
my district here will never go republican, but I keep my e-mail busy trying to help in other districts.
too many people ignore congressional races, or, they vote for the opposition for "balance" which is pretty stupid.
keep up the good work.

[45-70.gov]

Ummm, seeing as how I was a political science major, I guess you got me.  I just don't get it.   

 Let me help you out then,
Romney can get votes from those in the GOP willing to vote anyone in with an R by their name and may even be able to pull some of the more right leaning liberals. He can not pull from the Libertarian Party, Constitution Party, Green Party, Reform Party or the Third Party. So that limits Romney on the TOTAL NATIONAL votes that he can pull.
Obama will pull from his base and he will also get some of the left leaning republicans, Green Party, Socialist Party and Communist Party.
Paul will pull all of the Libertarian Party and  Constitution Party plus he will get a lot of votes from these parties.
Democratic Party
Green Party
Republican Party
Reform Party
Third Party / Independents

So in the end Ron Paul is able to beat the other two in NATIONAL elections because he appeals to a wider range of people thus more people.
Hope that helps you to understand a little better now.


Matt

THAT IS EXACTLY THE WAY I SEE  IT  !!!!!


too bad there weren't enough people like us voting in the primaries
 had RON PAUL got the nomination
i bet the lebertarian candidate would step down
and paul would get the intire libertarian vote

[Ranch13]

Poll results out this weekend indicate Romney either tied with Obama or a couple of points ahead.....

[Cuts Crooked]

I can't quite make the connection between Obama and Romney. Romney is liberal leaning, but Obama is an out and out socialist dictator wannabee, that never held a real job in his life.

Making it really simple for you: They BOTH signed socialistic "healthcare" bills into law. Not only did they sign them they both actively promoted them. SOCIALISTS!

Gun grabbers....Obama reportedly spoke with Sara B and told her that he was working on gun control "quietly", while Romeny flat out signed a gun grabbing bill into law.

Not difficult to understand now is it?

For many years I have used gun control as a "touchstone" where politicians are concerned. If a politicians feeling on gun control are in line with what I believe, for the most part I can trust him on most other subjects.

[Cuts Crooked]

But then Bug oughta LOVE this guy:

OBAMA FIRM ON DRUGS
Many in Latin America feel a new approach is needed to the drug war - and a shift away from hard-line policies - after decades of violence, in producer and trafficking nations like Colombia and Mexico.
But Obama was firm in rejecting calls to legalize either growing or consuming drugs. "I don't mind a debate around issues like decriminalization. I personally don't agree that's a solution to the problem," Obama said.

[Casull]

Making it really simple for you: They BOTH signed socialistic "healthcare" bills into law. Not only did they sign them they both actively promoted them. SOCIALISTS!

Gun grabbers....Obama reportedly spoke with Sara B and told her that he was working on gun control "quietly", while Romeny flat out signed a gun grabbing bill into law.

Not difficult to understand now is it?

 
 
Not difficult IF those were the ONLY TWO issues in the world.  They are not.  Romney and obama are NOT the same.  If you can't see that, then I guess I can understand your position.  It IS going to be one of them that sits in the white house for the next four years.  I prefer it NOT be obama.

[Cuts Crooked]

Casull, ya left out the last paragraph.........makes a world a difference.

For many years I have used gun control as a "touchstone" where politicians are concerned. If a politicians feeling on gun control are in line with what I believe, for the most part I can trust him on most other subjects.

[Ranch13]

I can't quite make the connection between Obama and Romney. Romney is liberal leaning, but Obama is an out and out socialist dictator wannabee, that never held a real job in his life.

Making it really simple for you: They BOTH signed socialistic "healthcare" bills into law. Not only did they sign them they both actively promoted them. SOCIALISTS!

Gun grabbers....Obama reportedly spoke with Sara B and told her that he was working on gun control "quietly", while Romeny flat out signed a gun grabbing bill into law.

Not difficult to understand now is it?

For many years I have used gun control as a "touchstone" where politicians are concerned. If a politicians feeling on gun control are in line with what I believe, for the most part I can trust him on most other subjects.

He was governor of MASSACHUSETS what would you expect ? Massachusets and the rest of the new england states long long ago forgot about how they came to be and the proud and storied past they carried.
 But yes he does wipe out any anti healthcare arquements, but still there is a broad difference between the two in other places.
Obama said time and again in 08 he wanted to fundamentaly change America. What is a real puzzler is why folks who claimed to be smart could not see thru that given what little we were fed about his communist/socialist upbringing and such, and voted for him?

[Cuts Crooked]

 He was governor of MASSACHUSETS what would you expect ? Massachusets and the rest of the new england states long long ago forgot about how they came to be and the proud and storied past they carried.
 But yes he does wipe out any anti healthcare arquements, but still there is a broad difference between the two in other places.
Obama said time and again in 08 he wanted to fundamentaly change America. What is a real puzzler is why folks who claimed to be smart could not see thru that given what little we were fed about his communist/socialist upbringing and such, and voted for him?

I would expect him to stand by his principles and veto the law...even if his congress had a veto proof majority. But then he also signed a socialistic health care bill into law, paving the way for Obummer. So I guess she DID stand by HIS principles.

If he did these things out of ignorance about The Second Amendment and socialism, then he is too stupid to trust! If he did them knowingly, to further his political career, then he is too evil too trust. Personally, I have to believe that he did them knowingly because his rise to power would have foundered otherwise.....he is the consumate politician, always looking to further his career.........much like someone else

[BUGEYE]

Ranch 13, your sig line, and Ironglows are right on the money.

it's too bad that some here are sounding more and more like skinheads.
full of hate, and willing to let the country sink into hard-line communism.