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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #600 on: May 09, 2012, 02:21:16 AM »

I take this that buisness is choosing Romney (no suprise) but Obama has much broader support on the grass roots level from voters themselves. IMO this is a strong indicator of how things will shake down come November.
that's right, no surprise, business people who want to create jobs and restore America will support the republican nominee.
people who want handouts financed by working people will support hussein.

Romney=jobs
hussein=hard-line communism.
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« Reply #601 on: May 09, 2012, 02:40:30 AM »

I take this that buisness is choosing Romney (no suprise) but Obama has much broader support on the grass roots level from voters themselves. IMO this is a strong indicator of how things will shake down come November.
that's right, no surprise, business people who want to create jobs and restore America will support the republican nominee.
people who want handouts financed by working people will support hussein.

Romney=jobs
hussein=hard-line communism.

While academically I agree I also can see that the part of buisness that Romney represents is so far the opposite of what Obama represents that he's no better for the American worker.

I applaud the Edison's, Ford's, Gates, Trumps and Walton's of this country who work hard and build wealth through invention or innovation and risk. However what Romney does is merely feed off the resulting carrion of what's left when things don't go as well for companies.

I wholeheartedly agree that the lefts parasites are an ever increasing burden.  I also believe that Romney is little more than an economic parasite sitting at the extreme opposing  end of the spectrum of non productive members of society.

Yes Romney is the choice of the "corporations are people too" crowd. But guess what? Buisnesses can't vote! And that's why hrs going to loose.

IMO Herbert Hoover of all people was speaking of the mitt Romneys of his day when he famously said

"You know, the only trouble with capitalism is capitalists; they're too damn greedy."

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« Reply #602 on: May 09, 2012, 03:00:32 AM »

"You know, the only trouble with capitalism is capitalists; they're too damn greedy."
this falls under the heading of "class envy".  one of the causes of  communism.......
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #603 on: May 09, 2012, 05:19:47 AM »
Capitalism is the best and most efficient form of production and distribution in the world.  However, there can be greedy capitalists.  That is why we have the SEC and other regulations.  If it is over regulated it becomes stagnent.  If it becomes too greedy, workers are hurt.  It has to be tweeked, not done away with.  It isn't evil in and of itself, but only the people involved. 
 
Communism doesn't work because it treats everyone the same (idealy), but this creates lazy workers because if one works hard, he gets the same as the lazy one.  If one invents, he doesn't get the benefit of it.  Soviet Russia is the prime example.
 
Socialism doesn't work.  It allows some restricted capitalism, but has so many government benefits, rules, regulations, capitalism becomes stagnent.  OR, it becomes like Nazi Germany, socialism with one party rule. 
 
Unrestricted capitalism worked well in America in the 1800s, but did create a lot of poverty and squaller in England due to their limited space.  In America, if one didn't think he was paid enough, he could just up and leave and head west, stake out a claim for land and farm or ranch.  American capitalism unrestricted capitalism was tempered by a strong Christian influence.  Henry Ford had trouble with his workers fighting, quiting, not being productive.  He asked his pastor what was wrong.  His pastor said if you pay the man a decent wage so he can provide for his family you will get good productive workers.  He went from $1-#2 a day to $5 a day.  Unheard of at that time.  His productivity skyrocketed.  Model T's came down in price.  More people could buy them. 
 
When America outlawed prayer and Bible reading in schools in the 1960's, the hippy movement, far left influence, Great Society, etc.  America lost its way.  We have become more socialist, made stupid "free trade agreements", and created a permanent dependent underclass. 

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Re: Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #604 on: May 09, 2012, 06:28:49 AM »

"You know, the only trouble with capitalism is capitalists; they're too damn greedy."
this falls under the heading of "class envy".  one of the causes of  communism.......




what  is the difference between  greed and ambition ??


once heard a wise man say ''there is a fine line between greed and ambition''


i thought about what he said for a few years before finding the difference


the difference  is ONLY  in how much envy is involved

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« Reply #605 on: May 09, 2012, 06:30:31 AM »

"You know, the only trouble with capitalism is capitalists; they're too damn greedy."
this falls under the heading of "class envy".  one of the causes of  communism.......

You do realize who Herbert Hoover was right?


A stronger "let the markets fix and regulate  themselves" president there's never been. Hoover was about as far removed from communism as Lennon and Trotsky from capitolism.


Here's a little bit of advice. When you end every other sentence with the words Communist or communism. Folks automatically assume you're a doomsday prepper nutcase and ignore anything you have to say.

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Re: Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #606 on: May 09, 2012, 06:41:09 AM »

"You know, the only trouble with capitalism is capitalists; they're too damn greedy."
this falls under the heading of "class envy".  one of the causes of  communism.......




what  is the difference between  greed and ambition ??


once heard a wise man say ''there is a fine line between greed and ambition''


i thought about what he said for a few years before finding the difference


the difference  is ONLY  in how much envy is involved
good post... I worked hard at my job for 30 years to get raises, promotions etc.
I think I was ambitious, liberals would call me greedy. ;D
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #607 on: May 11, 2012, 09:10:36 PM »
I AM PRO "the republican nominee".   Romney, Santorum, Newt, or Paul.

"THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE"

 Im with you on this one...anyone but Obama!!!!!!  This is the first thing that has to happen.  After we solve that problem we can then start solving the other differences that we have.  Cutting your nose off to spite your face just to make a point aint nothing but a vote for Obama.

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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #608 on: May 13, 2012, 02:43:27 PM »
Many just don't realize that a vote for one establishment candidate is just as good (or bad in this case) as a vote for the other establishment candidate. In either case, the Establishment Wins and the people loose. It has been going on this way for many years and standard of living progressively declines along with liberty. The Sheeple are blind to the fact that they really do have another choice. And so, being blind, they are lead to the slaughter until the last drop of blood (i.e. wealth and freedom) is sucked from them and all become slaves to the state, and eventually it all comes to an abrupt end when the turnip is finally sucked dry.
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #609 on: May 22, 2012, 11:29:49 PM »
  It would be treason for me to vote for a candidate that I believe will commit treason. So I cannot vote for Obama or Romney. 
 
I strongly believe Ron Paul is the only candidate that would not commit treason.
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #610 on: May 23, 2012, 02:12:20 AM »
  It would be treason for me to vote for a candidate that I believe will commit treason. So I cannot vote for Obama or Romney. 
 
I strongly believe Ron Paul is the only candidate that would not commit treason.
by RPs own words from his news-letter, he is racist.
he joined with the entire democrat congress and spent millions in PORK, when reps said no.
he voted to allow planned parenthood to transport minor children across state lines for abortions.
he voted to take away parental authority over minor children.
he voted in favor of the destruction of gun and ammunition manufacturers in this country.
he would allow the likes of Jerry Brown to interpret and inforce the constitution, thereby forcing communism on millions of people.
he griped about a doctor that put a live baby in a bucket "botched abortion". well duh, RP was a doctor and he was right there and watched the baby die and didn't lift a finger to help it.
http://lisagraas.com/blog/2012/01/13/ron-paul-walked-away-and-did-nothing-to-save-baby-born-alive-after-abortion/
nobody is perfect, even RP, so why not put the welfare of our country first, and work to remove hussein.
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #611 on: May 23, 2012, 06:16:36 AM »
  It would be treason for me to vote for a candidate that I believe will commit treason. So I cannot vote for Obama or Romney. 
 
I strongly believe Ron Paul is the only candidate that would not commit treason.
Is it treason not to protect the lives of US citizens here and abroad?  As comansdder and cheif is it not his job to make sure the Military is prepared and to protect lives and Us interests at home and abroad?  Jefferson sent the Marines to attack the Barbary pirates to protect lives and trade. 
Ron Paul said he would not protect us from attack and thinks that saying that, will keep people from attacking.
I see this as treason, as much as I did for Bill Clinton wagging his finger in the cameras and telling us he will bring to justice the people responsible for hte Fist attack on the WTC, the People that attacked the Cole, the People that attacked the embasys in Africa, and all he did was launch a couple cruse missles into a factory in the Sudan at night killing the cleaning crew.

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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #612 on: May 23, 2012, 08:10:46 AM »
I will definitely vote for Romney. He is not my first choice, as I would have preferred Bachmann, Santorum or Newt.

However, a vote against Romney is a vote for Obama and I CAN'T STAND that racist, homosexual supporting communist that is destroying America.

I will vote for a cow pie before I would for Obamination!

What this country needs is TRUE CONSERVATIVES! Romney is at least closer than Obama, so he will get my vote.

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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #613 on: May 24, 2012, 02:34:29 PM »
I will definitely vote for Romney. He is not my first choice, as I would have preferred Bachmann, Santorum or Newt.

However, a vote against Romney is a vote for Obama and I CAN'T STAND that racist, homosexual supporting communist that is destroying America.

I will vote for a cow pie before I would for Obamination!

What this country needs is TRUE CONSERVATIVES! Romney is at least closer than Obama, so he will get my vote.

Lead Poison -- I like that name!!

You speak true words, sir.  I welcome you to the ranks of those of us at GBO that stand between the darkness of Obamunism and the light of freedom and justice of American liberty.

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« Reply #614 on: May 25, 2012, 10:03:22 AM »
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #615 on: May 29, 2012, 03:41:14 PM »
OBAMA
 
Our Big American Mistake Again
 
Lets not repeat this.

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Well said, sir.  Let us revoke the undocumented Kenyan's lease and send him back to his mosque in Indonesia or Kenya.

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« Reply #616 on: May 29, 2012, 03:46:36 PM »
Can we just do what they did in the movies and write in "None of the above" ?  :o
 
I'm voteing for Mitt, but to be honest i'm actually voteing against Obama.
 

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« Reply #617 on: May 30, 2012, 02:26:59 PM »
Can we just do what they did in the movies and write in "None of the above" ?  :o
 
I'm voteing for Mitt, but to be honest i'm actually voteing against Obama.




I voted twice (against) someone.I didn't like my party's choice but anything better than the other! and my man won both times. The country lost!Would have been about the same outcome if the other fellow had won. looking back on it. I think when we vote for the establishments choices, we lose every time. This election I think will be about the same. Nothing good will emerge either way it turns out.


One party will win, and the country will lose. I have been on the winning side of party politics a few times, but I'm pretty sure "Thanks to the internet" the way I see things now, and the way things look with the voting public, My choice for president or Congress will never be elected again in my life time.


 
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« Reply #618 on: May 31, 2012, 05:11:26 AM »
I still say you have to change it at the local and state level first to get a 3rd party established that can compete nationally.  Only someone rich like Ross Perot could run nationally as a 3rd party.  Wallace was able to in 1968 due to the far left turn the democratic party took, the Vietnam War, etc.  He carried 5 states and was second in 5-6 more.  Nixon won. 

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« Reply #619 on: June 01, 2012, 12:01:57 PM »
Albeit we have two abysmal choices, one will undoubtedly destroy this nation [his only promise he has fulfilled], and the second is committed to preserving the integrity of this country.   

This country is teetering on the brink of its own destruction.......which of the two options do you think intelligent Americans will choose?

However, the sad reality is that a vote for door #3 is a back-door vote for door #1.

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« Reply #620 on: June 01, 2012, 12:07:59 PM »
quote:
However, the sad reality is that a vote for door #3 is a back-door vote for door #1.


i like that


use it in your signature
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #621 on: June 03, 2012, 04:55:19 PM »
quote:
However, the sad reality is that a vote for door #3 is a back-door vote for door #1.


i like that


use it in your signature

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Thanks.  I took your advice.  See signature line.  Of course, this will really bother some folks.

They'll get over it......

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« Reply #622 on: June 04, 2012, 03:21:32 AM »
i want to retract  half the mean and nasty things i said about some of you 3rd party voters


california will give all electoral votes to the  DEMS
Texas  ....all electoral votes will go republican
s on..and so on


people in florida like myself....and NC


and all the swing states.......i have much contempt for you 
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #623 on: June 04, 2012, 05:26:36 AM »
If Obama is elected, our country will be completely destroyed within the next 4 years.  Far left leaning supreme court judges, implementation of Obamacare, a bankrupt nation, possibly hyperinflation, riots, then martial law. 
 
If Romney is elected, you will see some restoration of the status quo, some spending cuts, flater taxes, more oil drilling and pipeline construction.  More private job formation.  Will he cut enough of the federal budget? Probably not, but there will be some cuts.  Will you see a restoration of a truely constitutional mindset in government?  Probably not, but not the rush to socialism/communism we are headed now.  Will you see more conservative supreme court justices?  Probably not, but they won't be far left. 
 
Romney will buy us time, time to be better prepped.  Time to get a good third party grass roots mindset to grow.  Obama will kill it altogether.
 
Do you guys want a government like Greece, China, or Soviet Russia, or European style socialism with limited freedoms, or do you want to buy some time? 

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« Reply #624 on: June 04, 2012, 08:09:36 AM »
i don't know  Mr Dude


the cinese are doing pretty good
they almost own us now
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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« Reply #625 on: June 04, 2012, 02:12:28 PM »
The only way to relevel the playing field is to have a crash and a depression. Both parties are in bailout mode and that dirrecton is takeing us toward socialism/communism reguardless of party. I don't wan't a depression but it is essential for the continuation of this country as it has been in the past. Financialy I could not make it in a depression but it would afford my children and grandchildren a chance at a future of freedom. ear
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« Reply #626 on: June 04, 2012, 02:48:59 PM »
We have one establishment candidate vs. the other establishment candidate. Both are Keynesians and will attempt to spend us out of this recession. The establishment wins and the taxpayers lose.


The Obam said he would like to give $3000 to the middle class to buy thing-a-ma-jigs to help the economy. The people cheered. No one ask where the money comes from, or how taking that much capital away would devastate the economy.



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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #627 on: June 04, 2012, 02:54:49 PM »
I'm a proud backdoor Obama voter!


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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #628 on: June 04, 2012, 05:02:09 PM »
I'm a proud backdoor Obama voter!




Glad to see that folks are not taking it personally.  It was only meant as a statement of current political reality.

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Re: The Official Lesser of Two Evils List
« Reply #629 on: June 05, 2012, 01:48:17 AM »
I won't vote for romney or obrahma.  To do so would be to give my consent, which I cannot do.  Keeping a clear conscience is very important to me in the event that things take a violent turn in our country.  I have a theory that ptsd is caused or at least enhanced by the warrior not having his actions clearly reconciled with his conscience.  I will get the screwing right along side everyone else whether romney or obrahma wins the election, the difference between the people who vote for romney while holding their noses and me, is that my screwing won't be consensual, and this may become a very important distinction.  I don't think my vote matters and may not even be counted, but I do it anyway to keep my conscience clear for the time I need a clear conscience as much as I need my rifle.  There is a lot of battle left in a mans mind after the shooting stops and it's important for me to have my head and heart right.  What will our kids think when they find out they are fighting the very people we voted for?  I mean to say, what will your kids think, mine will know I never voted for either of the tyrants.