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New low in support of obamacare.
« on: April 11, 2012, 03:56:03 AM »
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 New Low in Support for Health Law; Half Expect Justices to Go PoliticalBy Greg Holyk | ABC OTUS News – 9 hrs ago    Susan Clark of Santa Monica, Calif., who opposes health care reform, stands with a red hand painted over her mouth to represent what she said is socialism taking away her choices and rights, in front of the Supreme Court in Washington, Wednesday, March 28, 2012, on the final day of arguments regarding the health care law signed by President Barack Obama. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)     Susan Clark of Santa Monica, Calif., …
 
 
  • FILE - In this March 28, 2012 file photo, supporters of health care reform rally in front of the Supreme Court in Washington on the final day of arguments regarding the health care law signed by President Barack Obama. Arguments in the Supreme Court failed to yield clear hints how the justices would rule on the question of whether President Barack Obama's health care overhaul would be left standing if the high court were to strike down the linchpin provision that all Americans must have health insurance. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak, File) FILE - In this March 28, 2012 file …
   
Last month's hearings on the constitutionality of health care reform didn't help its popularity: Public support for Barack Obama's signature domestic legislation has hit a new low in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll, with criticism of the individual mandate as high as ever.
Half the public, moreover, thinks the U.S. Supreme Court will rule on the legislation on the basis of the justices' partisan political views rather than the law. Fewer, 40 percent, think impartial legal analysis will carry the day, with the rest unsure.
Fifty-three percent of Americans now oppose the law overall, while just 39 percent support it - the latter the lowest in more than a dozen ABC/Post polls since August 2009. "Strong" critics, at 40 percent, outnumber strong supporters by nearly a 2-1 margin in this poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates.
Two-thirds continue to say the high court should throw out either the entire law (38 percent) or at least the part that requires most individuals to obtain coverage (29 percent) or face a penalty; just a quarter want the court to uphold the law as is. Those numbers, like views on the law overall, are essentially unchanged from a month ago.
There are political differences: Republicans, who are most likely to oppose the law, are less apt to think the justices will rule on the basis of politics; 41 percent say so, still a not-insubstantial number when it comes to a basic assessment of independent jurisprudence. More Democrats and independents, 55 and 52 percent, respectively, suspect the justices will go political.
As to election politics, the potential repercussions are unclear. Obama's approval rating for handling health care has been more negative than positive steadily since he signed the Affordable Care Act (ACA) into law in March 2010. And the intensity of sentiment has been especially negative, with strong critics exceeding strong supporters by an average of 13 percentage points.
But the president looks better on the issue when compared to the presumptive GOP nominee, Mitt Romney. As noted Tuesday, Obama leads Romney by 10 points (48-38 percent) in trust to handle health care policy. And Romney may have trouble challenging Obama on the individual mandate, given its similarity to provisions in the Massachusetts health care law Romney signed as governor in 2006.
Indeed, among people who oppose the ACA, a relatively tepid 58 percent trust Romney over Obama to handle health care policy. Among ACA supporters, by contrast, 81 percent prefer Obama on the issue.
PARTY and SUPPORT - Given that the debate over the law largely revolves around the extent to which government should be involved in health care, partisanship and associated views on government regulation also play a large role in support for the law.
Seventy-nine percent of Republicans oppose the law in general and nearly two-thirds would like the Supreme Court to throw out the law entirely, for instance, while 63 percent of Democrats support it and nearly half want the court to keep it intact.
Those numbers among Democrats, while sharply different from views among Republicans, underscore the law's weak support. Further, more independents oppose it than support it - 56-35 percent - and 73 percent would like it rejected entirely (41 percent) or insofar as the individual mandate (32 percent), much more in line with Republicans than Democrats.
Similarly, Americans who see over-regulation of the free market as a greater problem than "unfairness in the economic system that favors the wealthy" are nearly twice as likely as their counterparts to oppose the law overall, and nearly three times as apt to want the high court to axe it entirely.
GROUPS - Among other groups, apart from Democrats, support for the law peaks at 65 percent among African-Americans, 64 percent among liberals and 54 percent among the most-educated adults, those who've done postgraduate work; it's also 49 percent among people who identify themselves in the top socioeconomic echelon, upper-middle class or better off than that.
Beyond Republicans, meanwhile, opposition to the ACA peaks at 79 percent among conservatives, 69 percent among evangelical white Protestants and 67 percent of those who say they're in the middle class, but struggling to stay there.
METHODOLOGY - This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone April 5-8, 2012, among a random national sample of 1,003 adults, including landline and cell-phone-only respondents. Results have a margin of sampling error of 4 points for the full sample. The survey was produced for ABC News by Langer Research Associates of New York, N.Y., with sampling, data collection and tabulation by Abt-SRBI of New York, N.Y.
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Re: New low in support of obamacare.
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2012, 04:08:49 AM »
My wife works in a medical lab,college degree as a Medical Lab Tech,(MLT), and the company keeps her hours just below full time. That way, she has to pay for our health ins. They only have a couple full time employee's, and until this health care deal shakes out, and the company finds out how much, that's probably where she'll stay. Thank you Obama. gypsyman (I wonder how much their next vacation will cost. Probably enough to pay for a whole bunch of family's health ins!)
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Re: New low in support of obamacare.
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2012, 04:18:29 AM »
GYPSYMAN. The obummer vacations are very much needed, destroying America is hard work ya know. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: New low in support of obamacare.
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2012, 02:14:21 PM »
My health insurance premiums have gone up every year both before and after Osama Obama took office. The real way to fix the situation is to elect the guy who provided the template for Obamacare.
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Re: New low in support of obamacare.
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2012, 02:32:07 PM »
My health insurance premiums have gone up every year both before and after Osama Obama took office. The real way to fix the situation is to elect the guy who provided the template for Obamacare.

Oh MAN!!! That's a good one Doublebass!!!!  ;D
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Re: New low in support of obamacare.
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2012, 03:00:27 AM »
Its the republicans are the only ones I,ve seen that did a good job destroying our country, I hope Obama has another good vacation so he can keep up with the good job he's been doing *****

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Re: New low in support of obamacare.
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2012, 03:17:35 AM »
Its the republicans are the only ones I,ve seen that did a good job destroying our country, I hope Obama has another good vacation so he can keep up with the good job he's been doing *****

Yes, I saw this morning how we are having a Med. drug shortage & the trend for this to get worse due to more gov. regulations & Obamacare. I thought about that while hearing about the latest job report, which shows we are slipping further. I pondered these thing while filling my car with the highest price gas I have ever seen in my life. Yes, good job!! >:(
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Re: New low in support of obamacare.
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2012, 05:32:40 AM »
Its the people driving their big 4X4 s whining and blaming , instead of doing something they can do on their own and cut pack on gas usage, thats what will bring the cost of gas down.

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Re: New low in support of obamacare.
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2012, 05:41:35 AM »
Its the people driving their big 4X4 s whining and blaming , instead of doing something they can do on their own and cut pack on gas usage, thats what will bring the cost of gas down.

Oh, the old Lib SUV hating talking points. I am sure you don't know this, but a lot of working folks are having trouble payng for the gas they are using in their small cars.
 
Demand & consumption is down, but price is up, so your statement is false. You sound like your hero who said we could save just as much by inflating our tires & tune ups, keep it coming! ;D 
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Re: New low in support of obamacare.
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2012, 07:33:23 AM »
I guess you are saying you want government control now of our oil companys or is it you want to just brown nose them some more thinking they will drop the price for you ?

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Re: New low in support of obamacare.
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2012, 08:25:40 AM »
Its the people driving their big 4X4 s whining and blaming , instead of doing something they can do on their own and cut pack on gas usage, thats what will bring the cost of gas down.

Nope, it won't !! It is either TO COLD or TO HOT and we have trouble making the deliveries
 
 We don't have enough or we have to much.
 
We need to switch from Diesel and Furnace Oil to Gasoline and vice versa.
 
 Some big cheese in the OPEC gets the flu and production is down. etc etc.
 
There is always an excuse to raise the price.

Next we hear is that the water levels in the Med are at an all time low and the tankers can't leave or is the water level to high and our docks are getting swamped.
 
Why would Govt be interested in lower fuel prices since the taxes they collect are higher if the fuel prices go up.
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Re: New low in support of obamacare.
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2012, 11:19:10 AM »
I guess you are saying you want government control now of our oil companys or is it you want to just brown nose them some more thinking they will drop the price for you ?

No, a Dem would want Gov. controls so that the price would be even higher!
 
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Re: New low in support of obamacare.
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2012, 11:51:46 AM »
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Its the people driving their big 4X4 s whining and blaming , instead of doing something they can do on their own and cut pack on gas usage, thats what will bring the cost of gas down.
Ya sure, to all the people who use their own trucks with huge toolboxes and trailers to make a meager living, lets drive them out of work too.
The price of oil is not that bad, it's that your dollar is not worth squat due to the printing of money which makes it worth less, and it takes more dollars to buy anything....including oil.  And as a side note...forcing people out of business is not a good business for the government to get into, that's why their revenues are down.
If you want to keep the price of gas down, stop printing money...gas is not the only thing that costs more, there is a reason you need more dollars, it's because our government made our money worth much less. That's a fact...and nobody is going to go buy a little electric car to run their business that they need powerful equipment for.  You can't force people to change their jobs and what they need, and even if they don't need a big gas user...so what...it's a free country.  Or it used to be. Raptor....you watch as Greece and Spain, and Europe go under doing what you think works, it's very strange you think the U.S. will somehow make what they are doing work, while they go off the cliff.  Spain finally had enough...they booted out all the people that think like like you and are starting over, I would think before we go off the cliff like they did, you would want to change directions.  You already know what is going to happen, you have been watching it happen. 
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Re: New low in support of obamacare.
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2012, 12:12:10 PM »
Its the republicans are the only ones I,ve seen that did a good job destroying our country, I hope Obama has another good vacation so he can keep up with the good job he's been doing *****

 
raptor. HEH, you are amusing, at least for a while. POWDERMAN.  :D :D :D ;) ;) ;)
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Re: New low in support of obamacare.
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2012, 12:16:39 PM »
Do you know we are pumping out more oil then we are using here in the US, other countrys will pay more for it then we do, so it will be high, yes there is some people that need a big truck for work and it pays for itself.

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Re: New low in support of obamacare.
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2012, 12:33:43 PM »
Its callied our 1st amendment freedom of speech, or are you looking to stomp on it again ??? ??

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Re: New low in support of obamacare.
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2012, 01:39:55 PM »
Do you know we are pumping out more oil then we are using here in the US, other countrys will pay more for it then we do, so it will be high, yes there is some people that need a big truck for work and it pays for itself.


Huh?
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Re: New low in support of obamacare.
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2012, 02:40:57 PM »
Do you know we are pumping out more oil then we are using here in the US, other countrys will pay more for it then we do, so it will be high, yes there is some people that need a big truck for work and it pays for itself.


Huh?

 ;D   "there is some people that need a big truck for work and it pays for itself" Oh really, every single time. That would be saying the depreciation would override any additional expenses as the result of higher fuel cost & every new gov. regulation! Wow, we had better let the accountants know that! ::)
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