State's affidavit for probable cause in Martin/Zimmerman case

[SHOOTALL]

I still go back to the beginning.
Why in the world did Z assume this kid was up to no good?
He reported it--was told to cease and decist and pressed on. Looks to me like he got what he was asking for--a confrontation.
Blessings

I agree 100% and in most places he would be guilty of manslauter since he did not stop but followed and to a degree was part of the problem.

[streak]

I still go back to the beginning.
Why in the world did Z assume this kid was up to no good?
He reported it--was told to cease and decist and pressed on. Looks to me like he got what he was asking for--a confrontation.
Blessings

I agree 100% and in most places he would be guilty of manslauter since he did not stop but followed and to a degree was part of the problem.

Once again, the police dispatcher told Z , we do not need you to do that!( On audio tape of Z and police dispatcher) after Z had told  the dispatcher he was following  Martin. After the dispatcher told Z, we do not need you to do that,Z responded OK! Now at that time , supposedly Z turnsaround and heads back to his vehicle. That is when Martin supposedly came upon Z and words were exchanged and the fight ensued.
Now if there is another side of this story out there, I would certainly like to hear it!
 

[Swampman]

Zimmerman was attacked and fired in self defense.  In FL that's perfectly legal.  He may be dumb but that's not illegal.

[oldsoldja]

Ms. (from the look of her, never will be mrs.) Corey sure did look excited to be able to be in front of all those cameras with her dog and pony show. There was no way she would pass that up.

[powderman]

Ms. (from the look of her, never will be mrs.) Corey sure did look excited to be able to be in front of all those cameras with her dog and pony show. There was no way she would pass that up.

 
You noticed that too?? POWDERMAN. 

[ironglow]

Took a quick look at the affidavit state submitted in this case - here it is: http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2012-04/69353440.pdf
 
I took speshul note of the last paragraph in this affidavit the state presented for probable cause:

"The facts mentioned in this affidavit are not a complete recitation of all the pertinent facts and evidence in this case but only are presented for a determination of Probable Cause for Second Degree Murder"

I've run that through Google's Legalese Translator, and it gave two renderings:
1. "We'd like a ham sandwich, please!"
and
2. "We're leaving out all the stuff which undermines our request for a ham sandwich!"

which is it?

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    I am quoting YT here because I think he "hit the nail on the head"..  The ommissions are glaring, even to the casual observer.
  I think she did not refer it to a grand jury because she didn't want to allow a grand jury the even the remotest possibility of refusing to indict.  This case is already so murky, there is no way he would face capital punishment...but without the grand jury he can still face life.
 
  This case (IMO) will not be settled on the legal facts..but on the POLITICAL facts-of-life..

[williamlayton]

She does not have the evidence to proceed with 1st degree murder--there is no evidence that I have seen reported that would lead to premeditation or the attempt to enter into this with the idea of comission of a felony.
The charges are given to a judge to determine if there is enough evidence of a felony. When we elect these folks we expect them to have the knowledge to know the law and act upon the law. I think this is what she is doing,
We could get mad at her for choosing to ignor the law and follow a political course for her benefit. I think most here want justice for all--I certainly do---I don't know anything but it certainly appears that she and the police think there is probable cause.
I hope he is not guilty--it appears that there is reason to doubt this.
Blessings

[SHOOTALL]

Zimmerman was attacked and fired in self defense.  In FL that's perfectly legal.  He may be dumb but that's not illegal.

I think that is as long as you don't engage in the argument . Once you become part of the problem you are seen in a different light. If what you say is true then one could go about sucking people into a fight and killing them which is not the case with Fl. law.

[SHOOTALL]

I agree also there is nothing that looks like he pre meditated killing the guy. But the death resulted from the engaugement which he was part of and could have ended by not following. It will most likely end as 2 degree manslaughter . I would bet the da would agree to that as a guilty plea    which mostlikely is the plan............

[ironglow]

  The media and the race-baiters are bemoaning the death of the "boy: Trayvon Martin..and it was tragic.  But here's a 10 year old "boy" who was beaten to death..by a grown man..not his natural father..
   
       http://www.buffalonews.com/city/communities/east-side/article816245.ece
   
 Can Bufffalo expect a visit from Jesse, Al and Calypso louis and their rioting crowd..demanding "justice" for the "boy" Abdifatah?
 
  Let's just watch and see how "concerned" Sharpton, Jackson and Farrakhan..when this real "boy" has been beaten to death !
 We will soon know if the three stooges are truly concerned or jost racist opportunists...like somebody else we know..