Police shoot dog, at wrong address in Texas.

[coyotejoe]

I just get really tired of hearing how the officer's life is on the line every second and they have to be ready to react instantly. They watch too many cop TV shows. That BS makes them trigger happy and all to ready to shoot anything that moves. The statistics are available everywhere, a construction worker, farm worker or truck driver is many, many times more likely to be killed on the job than is a cop, and those are not considered to be hazardous occupations. Actually, law enforcement is one of the safest jobs one can find outside of an office. And of those cops who are killed in the line of duty the majority are killed by automobiles, either their own of someone else's.
 I can't find statistics on how may innocent citizens are killed by cops, it would be difficult to compile since how does one prove innocence if they don't live to reach court, but just what I see of "wrongful police shootings" I would bet cops kill many times more innocent people that there are cops killed by gunfire. There are far too many trigger happy goons in uniform and I would say the guy who shot that dog is one of them.

[BUGEYE]

update, off topic, at 12:30 I checked my trap. got one.  I took him to an area that looked like it had a shortage of cats.

[SHOOTALL]

I just get really tired of hearing how the officer's life is on the line every second and they have to be ready to react instantly. They watch too many cop TV shows. That BS makes them trigger happy and all to ready to shoot anything that moves. The statistics are available everywhere, a construction worker, farm worker or truck driver is many, many times more likely to be killed on the job than is a cop, and those are not considered to be hazardous occupations. Actually, law enforcement is one of the safest jobs one can find outside of an office. And of those cops who are killed in the line of duty the majority are killed by automobiles, either their own of someone else's.
 I can't find statistics on how may innocent citizens are killed by cops, it would be difficult to compile since how does one prove innocence if they don't live to reach court, but just what I see of "wrongful police shootings" I would bet cops kill many times more innocent people that there are cops killed by gunfire. There are far too many trigger happy goons in uniform and I would say the guy who shot that dog is one of them.

good thoughts

[AtlLaw]

I don't like dogs.

Ah Swampus!      Who was the famous person that said "Anybody that hates kids and dogs can't be all bad."   

[KIMBER45]

I don't like dogs.  I don't like cats either.  Fewer the better.  I don't mind working dogs.  They serve a purpose.

You better hope Underdog doesn't read this.

[scootrd]

[KIMBER45]

I don't like dogs.

Ah Swampus!      Who was the famous person that said "Anybody that hates kids and dogs can't be all bad."   

I don't like dogs.

Ah Swampus!      Who was the famous person that said "Anybody that hates kids and dogs can't be all bad."   

I believe it was W. C. Fields. AHHHH Yeeesss.

[Cuts Crooked]

I just get really tired of hearing how the officer's life is on the line every second and they have to be ready to react instantly. They watch too many cop TV shows. That BS makes them trigger happy and all to ready to shoot anything that moves. The statistics are available everywhere, a construction worker, farm worker or truck driver is many, many times more likely to be killed on the job than is a cop, and those are not considered to be hazardous occupations. Actually, law enforcement is one of the safest jobs one can find outside of an office. And of those cops who are killed in the line of duty the majority are killed by automobiles, either their own of someone else's.
 I can't find statistics on how may innocent citizens are killed by cops, it would be difficult to compile since how does one prove innocence if they don't live to reach court, but just what I see of "wrongful police shootings" I would bet cops kill many times more innocent people that there are cops killed by gunfire. There are far too many trigger happy goons in uniform and I would say the guy who shot that dog is one of them.

Nice.....now go get yourself a LE job and come back in ten years and tell us again.....

[KIMBER45]

I just get really tired of hearing how the officer's life is on the line every second and they have to be ready to react instantly. They watch too many cop TV shows. That BS makes them trigger happy and all to ready to shoot anything that moves. The statistics are available everywhere, a construction worker, farm worker or truck driver is many, many times more likely to be killed on the job than is a cop, and those are not considered to be hazardous occupations. Actually, law enforcement is one of the safest jobs one can find outside of an office. And of those cops who are killed in the line of duty the majority are killed by automobiles, either their own of someone else's.
 I can't find statistics on how may innocent citizens are killed by cops, it would be difficult to compile since how does one prove innocence if they don't live to reach court, but just what I see of "wrongful police shootings" I would bet cops kill many times more innocent people that there are cops killed by gunfire. There are far too many trigger happy goons in uniform and I would say the guy who shot that dog is one of them.

Nice.....now go get yourself a LE job and come back in ten years and tell us again.....

Imagine if that were the case in all criticisms !

[Cuts Crooked]

Nice.....now go get yourself a LE job and come back in ten years and tell us again.....

Imagine if that were the case in all criticisms !


That might be nice..... for instance, I'M willing to laugh!

[Swampman]

I don't like dogs.

Ah Swampus!      Who was the famous person that said "Anybody that hates kids and dogs can't be all bad."   

I like the quote but kids are fine if they've been raised properly.
 

[r29l20]

Good one.

[BUGEYE]

we ate out last night and when we got home about 9:00, had another one.  off topic....

[rockbilly]

Swampman.  The same goes for dogs.........if they have been raised properly!
 
A well trained, well mannered dog is a pleasure to own, an untrained dog is a menace to society.  There is no such thing as a bad dog, just bad owners.  Blaming the dog for being a bad citizen is like blaming the kid for being a spoiled brat.
 
There are two locals serving time for harming someone's dogs, one of the individuals was a drug dealer/user out on parole when he tried to kill a puppy, the other shot an individuals two pit bulls while they were secured in the owners yard.   

 

[scootrd]

Swampman.  The same goes for dogs.........if they have been raised properly!
 
A well trained, well mannered dog is a pleasure to own, an untrained dog is a menace to society.  There is no such thing as a bad dog, just bad owners.   

I disagree Pitt bulls all should be put down. It's unfortunate but years of breeding for fighting, aggressiveness , etc ..has made them unfit for general society.   I'm not saying it's the dogs fault it's our fault , but the whole breed has now become defective.
The individual dog may be fine for 364 days of the year , but on that 1 day they explode. They have been breed to "win" , they must be dominant.  too late to reverse engineer. best that all go.

JMHO

[LONGTOM]

Swampman.  The same goes for dogs.........if they have been raised properly!
 
A well trained, well mannered dog is a pleasure to own, an untrained dog is a menace to society.  There is no such thing as a bad dog, just bad owners.   

I disagree Pitt bulls all should be put down. It's unfortunate but years of breeding for fighting, aggressiveness , etc ..has made them unfit for general society.   I'm not saying it's the dogs fault it's our fault , but the whole breed has now become defective.
The individual dog may be fine for 364 days of the year , but on that 1 day they explode. They have been breed to "win" , they must be dominant.  too late to reverse engineer. best that all go.

JMHO

First it was shepards, then dobermans, then rotts now it's pitt bulls.
I don't agree that its their breeding.
I have been around many that I would trust just as much as any other breed.
I think it is all in how they are raised and treated and just because its name is Lassie or Rin Tin Tin don't think it can't eat your butt!
Even Snoopy lost his cool at the Red Barron once in a while.
 
 
LONGTOM

[scootrd]

Even Snoopy lost his cool at the Red Barron once in a while.
LONGTOM

Yeah but Snoopy wasn't bred to bite , hang on , shake and crush a windpipe.
The pitt needs to be  dominant and win. it's engrained.
I would never ever ever leave my young child unsupervised around a pit , I don't care if I have owned the pit for 6 year prior with no incident. If you do , you are beggin for trouble. As a breed they are one breed should all be put down.

[SHOOTALL]

People who ignore the breeding of any animal and think it does not effect the dog or other critter must have little or no experince with animals. Most animals are bred for purpose. Bird dogs , deer dogs etc. Race horses are . Some dogs for fighting . If breeders breed dogs to fight for several generations with no regard for how the dog gets along with other dogs or people you end up with a ticking bomb . The puppy mills can breed dogs that are trouble with out even knowing it since the dogs leave the kennel before the defect is known. But they breed for cash so who cares. Anyone who breeds knows traits can skip generations and surface later . A pair of well diciplined dogs can produce a mean dog. Dogs or any other critter do not have human ablities what some think is the ablity to think is really conditioning and the dogs reaction. A child or adult can do something such as a touch or move and the dog may not have been conditioned to react in a positive way thus stressing the dog causing a negative reaction such as biting .

[LONGTOM]

I am a dog lover and have had many different breeds over my life span so far.
The last few replies can be said about any animal.
I'll admit to never having a pitt but only because I don't care for their looks, not because of a fear of them.
In fact, we just got a new chocolate Lab cross yesterday evening named Molly.

I have seen these same traits in horses, dogs, cattle, cats, chickens.
Doesn't mean all of them are like that.
Even people can be like that.
Some snap for no apparent reason, same as an animal.
For the most part animals are taught to react.
Race horses aren't born that way.
One breed may be better suited to run then another but it is the training and conditioning that makes them a winner.
The fastest Thoroughbred race horse in the world will always lose to a well trained Quarter horse in a quarter mile race.
That is why they only race at about a mile or better.
They were not trained to run at full speed for a short distance like the Quarter horse.
They were trained & conditioned to substain a speed over the longer run.
Our family has been in the horse business for well over 80 years from buying & selling to breeding & raising to training and showing and racing so I am speaking from experience.
We were one of the top horse dealers on the east coast for close to 20 years with over 1000 head bought & sold each year.
That is more horses that went through our hands the last few years we were in business then most people see in a lifetime.
I would be more afraid of a small breed dog then a pitt or one of the other so called vicious large breed dog.
Again, not because they were born more aggressive but because of the way they are raised.
More as a lap dog and as such become protective of their owners.
Not that bigger dogs can't become this way also.
 
 
LONGTOM

[yellowtail3]

I would never ever ever leave my young child unsupervised around a pit , I don't care if I have owned the pit for 6 year prior with no incident.

I feel the same way.

[Swampman]

There is such a thing as a good dog.  One that's no longer barking or taking a dump in someone elses yard.

[scootrd]

Swampman.  The same goes for dogs.........if they have been raised properly!
 
A well trained, well mannered dog is a pleasure to own, an untrained dog is a menace to society.  There is no such thing as a bad dog, just bad owners.   

I disagree Pitt bulls all should be put down. It's unfortunate but years of breeding for fighting, aggressiveness , etc ..has made them unfit for general society.   I'm not saying it's the dogs fault it's our fault , but the whole breed has now become defective.
The individual dog may be fine for 364 days of the year , but on that 1 day they explode. They have been breed to "win" , they must be dominant.  too late to reverse engineer. best that all go.

JMHO

Ok , I have modified my opinion just a little bit, if the whole breed should not be put down , then they should only be employed by agencies licensed to have them to performs specific jobs. security , protection, LEO , military deployment etc.. I believe the breed has been bastardized beyond repair , not the breeds fault, humans fault. (thank you puppy mills, backyard breeders etc) )

I do believe they are ticking time bombs and not fit for general population anymore. again they may be fine 364 days of the year , but then on the 365th day a little playful snap from another dog companion, or a tug on an ear from a child etc .,.. and what started out as a normal day just became anything but normal.  sure other dogs will fight , but the Pitt will always fight to the death. no such thing as just a little schoolyard scrap in their world. It's all or nothing.

one does have to admire the breeds tenacity (However I would suggest from a very safe distance and removed fro general public ownership ). kinda sad , nice looking breed.

JMHO

Semper Fi.

[coyotejoe]

I agree Scootrd. No doubt the vast majority of pit bulls are sweet, gentle dogs, I personally have know several. But it is ridiculous to ignore breeding. If you want a pointer you don't buy a  coonhound, if you want a herd dog you don't buy an Irish Setter and if you want a lap dog you don't buy a pit bull.

[guzzijohn]

My only extended period with Pit Bulls was years ago with some people I lived with for about three weeks until I found a rental that owned a Pit. Overall it was a great dog as long as I didn't try to enter the house without one of the owners there. If they were gone and I approached the door that dog would leap against the door making terrible un nice noises until you could feel the porch boards shaking. It made no difference that I was calling it's name. Second was a stray that I adopted that my vet said was half pit. It did not seem to register pain. She loved the water and boating and one spring when I turned the boat over a swarm of yellow jackets came out. That dog snapped every one of them out of the air until there were no more. Another time I was walking her on a leash when two unleashed Rots approached us. One Rot leaped on the back of my dog grabbing it by the back of the neck. Faster than greased lightening my dog broke loose and then had the Rot by the underside of the throat. With a lot of pulling and kicking along with the Rot struggling I finally got them apart and the Rot had had enough. The speed, strength and tenacity of this breed is amazing.
GuzziJohn