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Re: First seen graphic pic of Zimmermans bloody head.
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2012, 11:05:37 AM »
I'm not going to claim to be an expert here, but those look like pretty superficial lacerations and abrasions. Which bleed rather profusely when on the head...but are really not all that bad. :-\
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Re: First seen graphic pic of Zimmermans bloody head.
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2012, 11:19:39 AM »
The fact they are on the back of his head plus the known damage to his face should tell you something and what it tells me is Zimmerman was acting in self defense. No evidence this far has shown he failed to do as directed and stop following. The thread on new time line makes it pretty clear to me Zimmerman wasn't on foot that far and was indeed returning to his truck when the altercation occurred. I see no way to not have his actions covered as legal under Florida's Castle Doctrine which has a stand your ground clause.


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Re: First seen graphic pic of Zimmermans bloody head.
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2012, 12:22:47 PM »
It is looking more like self defense. It also looks like the prosecutor is setting it up so that this will either be thrown out of court because it's a weak second degree murder case, or there will be an acquittal, or something similar that indicates abuse by the prosecution.


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Re: First seen graphic pic of Zimmermans bloody head.
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2012, 02:01:30 PM »
Hope the truth comes out about the 17 year old he killed.  Sharpton and the others are making him out to be a pillar of society but I bet he was no angel.  I'm not a big man and there are a lot of 17 year olds that I would not want to mess with.  Only way I could defend my
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Re: First seen graphic pic of Zimmermans bloody head.
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2012, 03:27:16 PM »
I'm not going to claim to be an expert here, but those look like pretty superficial lacerations and abrasions. Which bleed rather profusely when on the head...but are really not all that bad. :-\
Keep that in mind if you find yourself on the wrong end of an butt whooping boys. Take a few extra blows to enhance your case, but not so many as to pass out before you start shooting.


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Re: First seen graphic pic of Zimmermans bloody head.
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2012, 03:27:31 PM »
CUTS. Superficial or not it would seem to prove that the punk was banging his head against the concrete.
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Re: First seen graphic pic of Zimmermans bloody head.
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2012, 06:03:33 PM »
It is looking more like self defense. It also looks like the prosecutor is setting it up so that this will either be thrown out of court because it's a weak second degree murder case, or there will be an acquittal, or something similar that indicates abuse by the prosecution.
Unfortunately, it seems like the prosecution is afraid that a jury of Zimmermans peers will find him Not Guilty of 2nd degree murder, and is setting the stage so that the jury "might" be convinced to find him guilty of manslaughter.

I for one believe that it was self defense, and covered by Florida's Stand your ground law.

I'm not going to claim to be an expert here, but those look like pretty superficial lacerations and abrasions. Which bleed rather profusely when on the head...but are really not all that bad. :-\
Cuts - Superficial or not, weren't you taught that when you're in danger of "blacking out" or losing control of your firearm, or believe that you were about to lose control of your firearm, you were then justified in using deadly force to stop the assault?  If that was what Zimmerman felt, then he was justified in shooting Martin.

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Re: First seen graphic pic of Zimmermans bloody head.
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2012, 06:12:04 PM »
Hope the truth comes out about the 17 year old he killed.  Sharpton and the others are making him out to be a pillar of society but I bet he was no angel.  I'm not a big man and there are a lot of 17 year olds that I would not want to mess with.  Only way I could defend my
self is with my 45ACP.
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336SC - Trayvon Martin is not the angelic looking young kid you see in the papers.  That photo is not a recent picture of what he looks like.
This is the real Trayvon Martin, and the way he talks.   For entire link: http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2012/03/some-of-trayvon-martins-tweets-that.html  Some of Trayvon Martin’s Tweets That Stand Out (Language Warning)
 


He was not some innocent little kid.  He was a huge guy with some very antisocial attitudes


A more recent picture of him than the one you usually get shown in the media

Another link, and photos:

http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/was-trayvon-martin-a-drug-dealer

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Re: First seen graphic pic of Zimmermans bloody head.
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2012, 08:56:56 PM »
Z does not have to prove anything---the state has the burden of proof.
This is a lesson---this is what you might have to go thru if you are in such a confrontation. NOW--I am not telling anyone not to stand your ground.
Z is not an angel either and may have been an opportunist in this confrontation. This would lead to some amount of not standing your ground but attempting to take some ground from one who decided to stand his ground.
Hopefully the evidence---either way---will be crystal clear.
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Re: First seen graphic pic of Zimmermans bloody head.
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2012, 03:01:38 AM »
  If Zimmerman gets off free and Clear the Anger crowd will not except it at all.
Al and Jesse haven't had too much big income deaths lately so they will be riding this one to the max
 Al was so worried that Jackson was there he didn't go back when his Mom passed,I think that says a lot right there,Had he left he would have missed the passing of the hat,his cronies would
rob him blind. I think we all know how much they trust one another(not one bit)
 When he stepped up to apologize the prosecution could have laid him out, It would have been a free
shot,they didn't and that makes me wonder?
 
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Re: First seen graphic pic of Zimmermans bloody head.
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2012, 03:39:34 AM »
I think Zimmerman's life is going to be screwed up one way, or the other, so his best bet would have been to hit the road when he had the chance.  If he beats this rap, I'm thinking he's going to have to deal with Eric Holder.
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Re: First seen graphic pic of Zimmermans bloody head.
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2012, 03:59:24 AM »
I think Zimmerman's life is going to be screwed up one way, or the other, so his best bet would have been to hit the road when he had the chance.  If he beats this rap, I'm thinking he's going to have to deal with Eric Holder.

Entirely possible! If he gets cleared the Fed is not going to let him walk away, they will trump up a lawsuit based on a "hate crime" and his life will be ruined that way.
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Re: First seen graphic pic of Zimmermans bloody head.
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2012, 05:27:00 AM »
Going to be hard to bring a hate crime into play here.
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Re: First seen graphic pic of Zimmermans bloody head.
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2012, 05:46:51 AM »
Going to be hard to bring a hate crime into play here.
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No it won't. Find him not guilty, bring a lawsuit based on a civil rights violation, get a picked jury, point out to them that Z identified the boy as black, turn them loose........instant verdict for a huge settlement.......no problem. Remember in a lawsuit all ya gotta do is convince the jury of a preponderance of the evidence......not "beyond a doubt".

It's been done before and it will be done again. >:(
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Re: First seen graphic pic of Zimmermans bloody head.
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2012, 07:06:14 AM »
Amazing how much damage can be done by some Skittles.
 
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Re: First seen graphic pic of Zimmermans bloody head.
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2012, 07:27:16 AM »
I'm not going to claim to be an expert here, but those look like pretty superficial lacerations and abrasions. Which bleed rather profusely when on the head...but are really not all that bad. :-\
I heard of people dying from head injuries that had no marks on them.
You can't judge a wound on surface observations alone.
Because if you could,,, I heard that Martin just had a little hole in his skin!

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Re: First seen graphic pic of Zimmermans bloody head.
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2012, 07:59:02 AM »
Superficial or not, I don't think he got them by cutting himself shaving. Unless his skull is broken or his brain is traumatized, any head wound around the cranium is superficial.

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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2012, 10:00:31 AM »
Just my two cents worth here, but if Zimmerman is adjudicated innocent, there will be riots for sure.  All T's friends can than stock up on
booze, cigarettes, new TV's, and sterio equipment.  It'll be the LA riots all over again.  It makes me sick.
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Re: First seen graphic pic of Zimmermans bloody head.
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2012, 10:38:23 AM »
It's sad that the judisial system is controled by a bunch of whitey hating darkies. Grow a pair, and let them know if they don't like it, they can leave. They wont have any resistance, on this end. Good riddins.

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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2012, 10:42:38 AM »
His screen name is no limit nigga. Looks like he found his limit.

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Re: First seen graphic pic of Zimmermans bloody head.
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2012, 08:01:42 AM »
this whole situation is ridiculous! if this kid was white, this stink would have never been raised! someone always wants to cry hate crime! he assaulted an armed watchman and paid the price!as a person who carries, you have the right to protect yourself from a potentially deadly(yes getting your head bashed into the ground can kill you!)assault. as well as not letting a criminal gain access to your weapon for which you are responsible, and using it to commit a crime. there are people trying to make this kid out to be a saint, from what ive read, he was a little puke wanna be gangster! makes no difference if he was black, white, asian or otherwise. doesn't matter that he was a seventeen year old kid. when i was seventeen, i was 5'10" 175lbs and benched 300+lbs and was a black belt already and could take most untrained adults no problem! he still acted in a criminal fashion and that's what matters. this zimmerman guy is not a criminal, nor is he a martyr. he's just a guy that got caught in a bad situation and made a decision that he has to deal with for the rest of his life. taking someones life has an effect on anyone! doesn't matter whether you are a cop, soldier, or an assassin, all people have feelings, and this guy is gonna go through the rest of his life knowing he had to shoot a kid, even if it was a punk kid! i feel sorry for him!

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« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2012, 09:03:46 AM »
Thank you grizz, I feel the same way.

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« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2012, 09:17:10 AM »
Agreed Griz;
  From the more we see/hear, things don't seem as first reported...
  From what we now see, "Z" had cut-like injuries to the back of his head and a smashed nose.  Does that look like a guy who shot someone from 20 feet?  Does it look like someone who was on the top, doing the beating..or on the sidewalk being beaten ?
   It looks more and more like someone who was beaned from the rear with a can of tea, and when on the ground was beingh beaten in the face.
  Ay first the stories said a 170# "kid" being beaten by a 250# guy.  Now that some dust has settled, "Z" appears to be no more than the 170# figure.
  No matter though, weight & size don't always mean a lot.  My smallest grandson is about 160# and he fights in the MMA cage, just for fun.  I pity most 250# guys who should want to test him...00000000000000000000000000000
 
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« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2012, 05:12:49 PM »
... If he gets cleared the Fed is not going to let him walk away, they will trump up a lawsuit based on a "hate crime" and his life will be ruined that way.

Going to be hard to bring a hate crime into play here.
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I happen to agree with William, you might be interested in reading the latest on Zimmerman being a "racist".  Somehow the "racist" label just doesn't seem to fit.  Seems like a lot of people, especially guys like Barry, Sharpton, and JJ, jumped the gun.  Guess Barry didn't have a teaching moment or in his case a learning moment, after the controversy involving the cop, and the black Professor with a "your messing with me because I'm black" attitude.

Zimmerman’s own black roots – & drive to aid the poor Topsy-turvy life of a good-hearted kid who took bad turn By CHRIS FRANCESCANI
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 Last Updated: 4:55 AM, April 26, 2012
 Posted: 1:41 AM, April 26, 2012
           Share on email Share on facebook More Sharing ServicesMore Print    SANFORD, Fla. — A pit bull named Big Boi began menacing George Zimmerman and his wife, Shellie, in the fall of 2009.
 The first time the dog ran free and cornered Shellie in their gated community in Sanford, George called the owner to complain.
The second time, Big Boi frightened his mother-in-law’s dog. Zimmerman called Seminole County Animal Services and bought pepper spray. The third time he saw the dog on the loose, he called authorities again. An officer came to the house, county records show.
 “Don’t use pepper spray,” he told the Zimmermans, according to a friend. “It’ll take two or three seconds to take effect, but a quarter-second for the dog to jump you.
   RAISED RIGHT: George Zimmerman, here in 1989 (above), grew up in a racially integrated military family and helped the needy. height=300  RAISED RIGHT: George Zimmerman, here in 1989 (above), grew up in a racially integrated military family and helped the needy.   George Zimmerman height=300  George Zimmerman        “Get a gun.”
 That November, the Zimmermans completed firearms training at a local lodge and received concealed-weapons gun permits.
They bought a pair of guns in early December, a source close to them said. George chose a lightweight Kel-Tec PF-9 9mm handgun.
 By June 2011, Zimmerman’s attention had shifted from the loose pit bull to a wave of robberies that rattled the community, called the Retreat at Twin Lakes.
The homeowners association asked him to launch a neighborhood watch, and Zimmerman began to carry the Kel-Tec on his regular, dog-walking patrol — a violation of neighborhood-watch guidelines but not a crime.
 Few of his closest neighbors knew he carried a gun — until two months ago.
 On Feb. 26, George Zimmerman shot and killed unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin in what Zimmerman says was self-defense, setting off a national furor over gun and self-defense laws and race relations.
While Zimmerman was in hiding, detractors called him a vigilante who decided Martin was suspicious because he was black.
When Zimmerman was finally arrested on a charge of second-degree murder more than six weeks after the shooting, prosecutors portrayed him as a violent and angry man who disregarded authority by pursuing the 17-year-old.
 But a more nuanced portrait of Zimmerman in the months before the shooting has emerged, based on extensive interviews with relatives, friends, neighbors, schoolmates, co-workers and reviews of court documents and police reports.
 The 28-year-old insurance-fraud investigator comes from a deeply Catholic family and was taught to do right by those less fortunate.
He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather — the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him.
 A criminal-justice student who aspired to become a judge, Zimmerman also concerned himself with the safety of his neighbors after a series of break-ins committed by young African-American men.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/zimm_own_black_roots_drive_to_aid_acj8TBRV1K2T3VbQZYo9JK#ixzz1tCrfxqJ6

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« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2012, 01:25:28 AM »
  A couple points worth ruminating upon;
 
  1)  It isn't the depth of the scalp cuts which are important, it is the shape of them and the fact that they are there at all.
   Then consider that "Z" also had a broken nose, and we hear nothing about injuries other than the gunshot to "T".  He may havehad other injuries...but I suspect the biased press would be trumpeting them.
 
  2)  The judge should have thrown that prosecutor off the case when she declared that she must get justice "for Travon"..
  It would seem that her job would simply be to affirm "justice" wherever the facts came down.
 
  3) The biased media.. they showed photos of "Z" in his orange jump suit beside a "little kid" photo of "T".  They could have as easily shown the representative photos below...it would have been no MORE biased than the ones they did show.
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« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2012, 02:56:52 AM »
I wonder how proud JJ,A.Sharpton, and Calipso Louis are going to be, if Zimmerman is found innocent.(And by what is known now, sure looks like it), and the riots begin. There was 17 or 18 killed in the LA riots when King verdict was decided. And, at this present time, I think your going to see alot more people stand up for themselves, and not take it. I think it's going to get real ugly this summer. gypsyman
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« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2012, 03:12:10 AM »
I wonder how proud JJ,A.Sharpton, and Calipso Louis are going to be, if Zimmerman is found innocent.(And by what is known now, sure looks like it), and the riots begin. There was 17 or 18 killed in the LA riots when King verdict was decided. And, at this present time, I think your going to see alot more people stand up for themselves, and not take it. I think it's going to get real ugly this summer. gypsyman
that may be what sharpton and his ilk have been wanting.  but it will backfire on them.
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« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2012, 03:42:07 AM »
I wonder how proud JJ,A.Sharpton, and Calipso Louis are going to be, if Zimmerman is found innocent.(And by what is known now, sure looks like it), and the riots begin. There was 17 or 18 killed in the LA riots when King verdict was decided. And, at this present time, I think your going to see alot more people stand up for themselves, and not take it. I think it's going to get real ugly this summer. gypsyman
that may be what sharpton and his ilk have been wanting.  but it will backfire on them.
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