Author Topic: another one came home. (Read 4426 times)

Lloyd Smale · « **on:** April 21, 2012, 11:10:18 AM »

went to my buddys to visit and he had a mark II 06 sitting there that looked like new with real nice wood. I couldnt let it stay there especially when he said he had 350 bucks into it. It had a cheap bushnel scope that is allready gone. Hard to pass on a nice 06!

hillbill · « **Reply #1 on:** May 15, 2012, 04:08:48 PM »

well worth that money! 06 is a classic cal for sure. post pics if yu can.

HogFan · « **Reply #2 on:** July 07, 2012, 09:12:44 AM »

I've got a buddy that has a Ruger 77 MKII in 7mm mag he bought when he was stationed here in AK. He lives in MO, and tired to get me to buy it from him last Thanksgiving. I kick myself for not buying it, as I know it shoots. I sighted the rifle in for him when we were in MT together. If he still owns it when I get back to the lower 48, it will find itself in my gun safe.

Bugflipper · « **Reply #3 on:** July 07, 2012, 05:24:06 PM »

Your a glutton for punishment Lloyd. Hope this one does what you want it to.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #4 on:** July 07, 2012, 11:31:25 PM »

it didnt and its allready gone!

Quote from: Bugflipper on July 07, 2012, 05:24:06 PM

Your a glutton for punishment Lloyd. Hope this one does what you want it to.

Swampman · « **Reply #5 on:** July 07, 2012, 11:40:50 PM »

Not suprised. Ordered a Ruger Gunsight Scout yesterday. I hope it proves me wrong about Ruger longguns.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #6 on:** July 09, 2012, 12:55:04 AM »

hate to say it swampy but ive worked with two of them that buddys have and neither was a tackdriver. They were made to be sort of a combat gun and there accurate enough for what they were designed for but dont expect target grade accuracy out of them.

Swampman · « **Reply #7 on:** July 09, 2012, 01:58:44 AM »

It's hard to get great accuracy with a CRF rifle, esp a Ruger. Hoping to get close to MOA with handloads.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #8 on:** July 09, 2012, 10:33:55 AM »

we couldnt get much better then 2 inch. Im talking an average of 4 5 shot 100 yard groups though.

Quote from: Swampman on July 09, 2012, 01:58:44 AM

It's hard to get great accuracy with a CRF rifle, esp a Ruger. Hoping to get close to MOA with handloads.

Swampman · « **Reply #9 on:** July 09, 2012, 11:45:01 AM »

I saw one on a video today do MOA at 300 yards with carefully constructed handloads.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #10 on:** July 09, 2012, 11:36:50 PM »

i dont doubt it a bit. Heck ive seen winchester and marlin 3030s that would shoot moa or better. Shoot enough differnt samples and with enough differnt loads and im sure you can find one thats moa. Its just that the odds are against you.

Omaha-BeenGlockin · « **Reply #11 on:** July 11, 2012, 05:02:26 PM »

The newer Rugers are quite good----I had MkII's in the 90's and 3-4in groups were the norm---I've owned/own a couple Hawkeyes that are all MOA or better shooters.

Swampman · « **Reply #12 on:** July 11, 2012, 10:05:10 PM »

That's what I here. I really like my new Ruger Gunsite Scout but I haven't shot it yet.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #13 on:** July 11, 2012, 11:07:22 PM »

by the way swampy im calling remington and telling them your posting on the ruger.com forum. There going to take your green underwear away

Swampman · « **Reply #14 on:** July 12, 2012, 01:10:18 AM »

If we don't try them all, then we can only know what others say about them. I like to see for myself.

Harry Snippe · « **Reply #15 on:** July 12, 2012, 11:42:31 AM »

Quote from: Lloyd Smale on July 09, 2012, 10:33:55 AM

we couldnt get much better then 2 inch. Im talking an average of 4 5 shot 100 yard groups though.
Quote from: Swampman on July 09, 2012, 01:58:44 AM
It's hard to get great accuracy with a CRF rifle, esp a Ruger. Hoping to get close to MOA with handloads.

The 2/3 " inch groups is what I am hearing too up in Canada . The gun looks good and like the short barrel and the drop mag, but would like at least an inch or inch and a half groups @ 100 yards .The two guns I knew of when they came out were traded back in real quick .Might be cheaper and wiser to chop the barrel on a Ruger American . Reports on these guns so far have been good . A 308 with a 18 or 19 inch barrel is indeed a pleaser in heavy eastern bush .

Swampman · « **Reply #16 on:** July 12, 2012, 12:10:07 PM »

I've handled the the Ruger American.......no thanks.....

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #17 on:** July 12, 2012, 09:51:30 PM »

im with swampy on that one. Ive handled a few of the americans. they may shoot even better then most 77s do but no thanks. they remind me to much of those cheap 710 remingtons and savage axis guns. Personaly id rather buy a better gun used then one of those budget guns.

Swampman · « **Reply #18 on:** July 12, 2012, 10:25:39 PM »

Walmart has scoped 700 ADLs for $421.00. A lot more gun for a little more money.

George Foster · « **Reply #19 on:** July 12, 2012, 10:55:14 PM »

I will agree it is always to find out for yourself instead of listening to others. My experience with Ruger 77's is so much different from others on here that I would never take their opinions for gospel. My Ruger 77's will shoot as tight or tighter 3 or 5 shot groups with the loads they like as my Rem 700's. Is it because I can shoot better or is it because I know how to tune a rifle better or load ammo better? Or is it because I am less bias and I acknowledge the fact that all rifle manufacturers make good rifles and there is no magic in one brand over another. I don't know but I know I will always go with my own experience than anyone elses.

Swampman · « **Reply #20 on:** July 13, 2012, 06:39:43 AM »

You are very lucky and that's the total sum of it.

There are good rifles and there are accurate rifles. Ruger makes good rifles. To say "all rifle manufactures make good rifles' is laughable at best.

tacotime · « **Reply #21 on:** July 13, 2012, 08:19:56 AM »

What was that issue about less accuracy in CRF rifles? I had not heard of that issue.

Swampman · « **Reply #22 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:12:45 PM »

They are accurate enough for big game hunting. They simply aren't as precision as the push feed rifles.

George Foster · « **Reply #23 on:** July 13, 2012, 12:19:55 PM »

Swamp, I don't need to rely on luck, I am a very good benchrest shooter, I know how to load accurate ammo and I know how to accurize rifles. Those are the differences that make the difference. And YES I don't care who is the manufacturer they all produce good rifles and some lemons, that is the difference between knowing and stating the facts and drinking the "Green Kool-Aid".

Swampman · « **Reply #24 on:** July 13, 2012, 01:16:42 PM »

A well known gunwriter once stated "If Ruger ever made an accurate rifle, it's still at the factory" I think that pretty well sums it up. I've seen thousands of post that say the same thing I'm saying. That said I bought a new Ruger boltgun 2 days ago. A rifle that requires careful handloading is no where near as good as a Remington 700 which never does. I hope I'm lucky like you.

George Foster · « **Reply #25 on:** July 13, 2012, 10:27:38 PM »

All rifles no matter who the manufacturer is need to be accurized and have good hanloads used in them to bring out their true potential. If you have seen a thousand posts that say the same thing you are saying they have been all made by you. Factory never has been or will be as accurate as good hanloaded ammo.

I personally doubt you have the experience or know how to be as you say "Lucky like me", I think you abide by and practice the old saying "If you can't dazzle them with brillance then baffle them with bs". Some of us actually "Walk the Walk instead of just Quacking like a Duck".

Swampman · « **Reply #26 on:** July 13, 2012, 10:49:26 PM »

Most rifles don't need to be accurized and most don't need handloads. Mausers and CRF rifles may need some work. Mostly they just need to be traded off. This is 2012 not 1955. Things have changed and for the better when it comes to accuracy. Computer controled equipmet has made your old wives tales a thing of the past.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #27 on:** July 13, 2012, 10:53:37 PM »

well ill go a little both ways on this. Yes ive had good shooting rugers but like swampy said there the exception not the rule. theres companys that specialize in doing accuracy work on bolt hunting rifles and ive see some that wont even do work on a ruger because they feel its just to likely that no matter what they do theres not going to be much improvement. George if your a good benchrest shooter look at the next competition your in and see how many rugers are on the line. Id bet NONE. You think maybe theres a reason that in the stock classes remingtons dominate probably 50 to 1. Ive owned lots of ruger rifles, probably as many or more then about anyone here. Ive also owned lots of 700 rems and anyone who tells me an out of the box ruger shoots as well as an out of the box rem is smoking crack.

Swampman · « **Reply #28 on:** July 13, 2012, 10:59:29 PM »

It was the Wilson barrels with oversize bores and the way the action is held in the stock with a crooked screw that really hurt Ruger. The Douglas barrels and the in house barrels aren't too bad. They make a pretty good big game rifle. I've just been spoiled by the Remington 700s. Why Bill stuck with the crooked action screw I'll never know. Just sold my last #1 what a mess that was. Pounds of powder and bullets wasted to no avail.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #29 on:** July 13, 2012, 11:15:58 PM »

now personaly ive had better luck with #1s then i have with 77s. You hit it right on the head though. I dont feel it has much or anything to do with them being controled round feed guns. the problem lies in poor barrels and a pour bedding system. Even if you rebarrel one you still have that stupid bedding system to deal with.