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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #180 on: May 30, 2012, 07:57:07 AM »
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What impresses me is that Koch-Walker want to piratize Wis Game management....take it away from the auspices of the people who own it, and remove it further from elected representation....perhaps piratize as it were.

 
 
 
Sure.  Other than your claim, what evidence do you have of this? 
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« Reply #181 on: May 30, 2012, 09:16:08 AM »
   Why are you lefties so worked up over Koch ?  There are lots of wealthy names in the political games. Besides Koch there are other, very wealthy names involved financing political hacks.. names like Soros, Buffet, Spielberg, Jobs (the late), Gates, Oprah, and many other wealthies from the entertainment business....  So why do you single out only Koch.... for special attention ?
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« Reply #182 on: May 30, 2012, 09:58:49 AM »
Oh, so now the famous Biologist Kroll is tied in with Koch, wow!! ;D  This is stuff that beats comedy Central badly ;D  Well, their names start with a K, so if we can tie in one other guy with a K, we can say THEY are the KKK.
 
I really love this stuff!! ;D
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Doesn't impress me how famous biologist Kroll is or isn't... ::) There's a lot of good biologist and deer herd experts.  What impresses me is that Koch-Walker want to piratize Wis Game management....take it away from the auspices of the people who own it, and remove it further from elected representation....perhaps piratize as it were.  What's impressive is you're ready and willing to do this without any skepticism; and if your a Wisconsinite its your own resources your signing away!!  Incredible. ??? ... What's also impressive is your inability to connect dots an analogies as I indicated with the historical metaphor of the King's Herd in the King's Forrest falling back on signature ridicule zingers. (this means you're starting to get it...and so conflicted are compelled to throw grenades... ;) ) Too bad....not my cross to bear...!!
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Ah, not my cross either.
 
Yea, I should have been able to connect the Kroll/Koch dots! ;D  Looks like this thread may have to moved to Conspiricy Th. ;D
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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #183 on: May 30, 2012, 10:55:27 AM »
   Why are you lefties so worked up over Koch ?  There are lots of wealthy names in the political games. Besides Koch there are other, very wealthy names involved financing political hacks.. names like Soros, Buffet, Spielberg, Jobs (the late), Gates, Oprah, and many other wealthies from the entertainment business....  So why do you single out only Koch.... for special attention ?

 
Well that's an easy one.  Those rich people are liberals and like minded people have no problem with them.
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« Reply #184 on: May 30, 2012, 10:59:38 AM »
  Thread starts:  " Help Gov Scott Walker fight re-call..." !
 
   Now we are debating some ... " Kroll the deer counter "...
 
   How, on God's green earth.... did we get to this ?
 
 
   BTW>>> Looks like Walker is doing OK.. after the chief obama supporters (the unions) have blowed many millions, they are starting to say of the attempted Walker recall..." It don't mean anything"..
 
   Hmmmm...If it doesn't mean anything..why did they spend millions ?
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« Reply #185 on: May 30, 2012, 11:00:37 AM »
The article states Kroll is more than just an academic wildlife biologist.
He is a businessman who operates his own website and cable TV show
and endorses products.

 
How dare he! A businessman and endorses products!!!  He should be hung for his blasphemy!!!
 
LOL, how typical...
 
 
By the way new Marquette Law School poll has Walker leading 52% to 45%....
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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #186 on: May 30, 2012, 11:09:38 AM »
The article states Kroll is more than just an academic wildlife biologist.
He is a businessman who operates his own website and cable TV show
and endorses products.

 
How dare he! A businessman and endorses products!!!  He should be hung for his blasphemy!!!
 
LOL, how typical...
 
 
By the way new Marquette Law School poll has Walker leading 52% to 45%....

Well now that's not very Socialistic OWS ish is it, yikes!!
 
Yea, he's way out of line!! He stands on his own 2 feet instead of depending on a Union, let's get him!  ;D
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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #187 on: May 30, 2012, 01:57:54 PM »
The article states Kroll is more than just an academic wildlife biologist.
He is a businessman who operates his own website and cable TV show
and endorses products.

 
How dare he! A businessman and endorses products!!!  He should be hung for his blasphemy!!!
 
LOL, how typical...
 
 
By the way new Marquette Law School poll has Walker leading 52% to 45%....

Well now that's not very Socialistic OWS ish is it, yikes!!
 
Yea, he's way out of line!! He stands on his own 2 feet instead of depending on a Union, let's get him!  ;D

You guys are cracking me up ;D ;D ;D  Atleast with the Walker and Barrett election I won't be holding my nose when I vote. (Barrett only stinks a little) Now between Obie and the Repug Romney i'll be holding my nose and hoping I don't throw up in my mouth. Sad state of affairs :-[
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« Reply #188 on: May 31, 2012, 02:22:32 AM »
So much good news for the Walker campaign today that I don't know where to start...
 
First off, Walkers job-growth numbers that he made a couple weeks ago have been verified by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. And instead of losing +23,900 jobs as someone on here touted, Wisconsin added 23,608 jobs in 2011, Walkers first year as Governor. By the way, that's more than Obama in 3 1/2 years...
 
Nearly two-thirds of employers, many of them manufacturing companies, plan to hire people in the next six months, a new survey from Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce shows.
The 62% who said they plan to add employees is up from 53% a year ago and 44% last December, according to the survey of 182 companies.
 
http://www.jsonline.com/business/survey-finds-state-firms-bullish-on-hiring-growth-js5jsnl-155813185.html
 
Barrett admits he can't find one school district that was hurt by Act 10 and also admits he has no formulated plan for how to create jobs for Wisconsin.
 
Forces unionization shows it's true colors after Act 10 with plunging membership.  Wisconsin membership in the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees— the state's second-largest public-sector union after the National Education Association, which represents teachers—fell to 28,745 in February from 62,818 in March 2011. Much of that decline came from Afscme Council 24, which represents Wisconsin state workers, whose membership plunged by two-thirds to 7,100 from 22,300 last year.
 
Everything is falling into place and it is a great time to be a Wisconsinite!!!
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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #189 on: May 31, 2012, 02:37:36 AM »
 The Wife & I already voted. Thanks again Walker for WI CC. OBTW, Barrett gets an "F" rating from the NRA.
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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #190 on: May 31, 2012, 03:13:11 AM »
The Wife & I already voted. Thanks again Walker for WI CC. OBTW, Barrett gets an "F" rating from the NRA.

Excellent!  BTW, I personally know 5 people who haven't voted in years to decades who for various reasons decided to vote for Walker in this election.  Now that is a statement!  I would love to see a landslide and hope everyone participates regardless of the polls....
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« Reply #191 on: May 31, 2012, 03:14:28 PM »
  Over the years more will cross over...when they see those blasted property taxes go down.
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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #192 on: June 04, 2012, 05:20:22 AM »
After much debate back and forth it will be interesting to see how Wisconsin votes tomorrow.

Walker's lead in Wisconsin recall election tightens in new poll

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker maintains a narrow lead in his recall election, but his standing has diminished in recent weeks, according to a new poll released on the eve of the election.Walker leads Democratic challenger Tom Barrett, the mayor of Milwaukee, by just 3 percentage points in a new survey. Turnout will be the deciding factor in this close race.

After raising expectations in Wisconsin, Walker, 44, is under heavy pressure to deliver. The numbers have been uncooperative. The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, which churns out reams of national and state employment data every month, has shown Wisconsin losing 33,900 jobs in 2011. The numbers, which aren’t adjusted for season variation, were among the worst of any other state. The state also ranked 42nd out of 50 states in economic health in 2011, according to the Bloomberg Economic Evaluation of States.

At the same time federal figures showed jobs leaving, Wisconsin’s unemployment rate was falling. In April, it was 6.7 percent and has been dropping steadily since January 2010, when it last peaked at 9.2 percent. Walker has touted that as evidence of a strengthening economy. The monthly job-loss data, though, provided ammunition for Democrats to argue that Walker should be bounced from office. With the recall election bearing down on him, Walker drew on a different federal measurement -- a quarterly accounting -- on May 16 and last year’s job loss was transformed into a gain of about 23,000.

“That’s very dangerous,” said Charles Ballard, an economist at Michigan State University in East Lansing. “If you let each governor come up with his or her own numbers, I bet almost every state would have faster job growth. As soon as it becomes a political football, the numbers become meaningless.”
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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #193 on: June 04, 2012, 05:36:03 AM »
The unemployment rate is a joke nationwide.  To keep the figures down, they have been removing people from the workforce total.  They say it is due to people retiring early.  If that is the case, then why do half the college grads can't find jobs?  If the jobless rate were figured by 1980 methods, it would be about 10.9 nationwide.  Also using 1980 standards inflation would be about 12% which is more realistic since we keep a running total of our expenditures monthly.  Groceries are a lot higher, as well as gasoline from 2008.  Even though gasoline "fluxuates".  It takes two steps up and one step back.  Gasoline and groceries take a bigger bite percentage wise of you check.  Power is also going up because of the shut down of coal fired power plants.  Coal is about half the cost of natural gas.  Natural gas is replacing coal at a fast rate due to the EPA raising air polution standards.  Only one new nuke plant is being built. 
 
Republicans want fiscally responsible government, not taxpayer padded union contracts and pensions.  We cannot afford it anymore. 

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« Reply #194 on: June 04, 2012, 08:23:30 AM »
With all due respect to the liberal contributors here, it is hard to take any posted information as credible when time and time again facts are ignored and liberal misleadings are interjected.  Such as a previous statement of Walker trying to privatize public hunting land and game management.  It's not often that the Journal Sentinal hits a liberal with a pants on fire rating, but Barrett got one this time.
 
 
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2012/jun/04/tom-barrett/recall-challenger-tom-barrett-says-scott-walker-ha/
 
 
 
And that poll that was referenced above was conducted by a liberal polling group known as Public Policy Polling, who in the past has been accussed of over representing union households in polls. Might as well ask Barrett what he thinks the spread is....  In any event, it will be interesting to see what the results are.  If we didn't have to contend with voter fraud, my guess is that Walker would "walk" away with it by 8-10%, probably be closer to 5-7% when it's all said and done.
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« Reply #195 on: June 04, 2012, 11:26:12 AM »
  Buckskin;
 
  It must be obvious by now, lying means nothing to liberals...to them, "the end justifies the means"..
   Their compadre (Mao) once said..  "promises are like pie crusts, made to be broken".  Seems to be part and parcel of their politics..
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« Reply #196 on: June 04, 2012, 11:52:22 AM »
It's Walker the corpo puppet whose lying about his record to Wisconsin. When stats disprove. He just changes the measurements and data standards to try and support his bogus claims. I find it interesting , Puppet boy is leading among republicans (naturally)  and Barrett amongst Dems (naturally). But what is getting little coverage is Dems choice  is leading among independents.

It's all going to come down to turn out.

What is most fascinating is Walker (R-Koch) has outspent the dems candidate 25 to 1 on recall mostly with out of state monies. (Of course that;s understandable , he has to go out of state since businesses have left Wisconsin,  and he has had negative new business Growth since he took office.

Raised for recall...
Walker 30.5 million (62% raised out of state) has to go out of state to his corporate buddies
Barrett 3.2 million  (only 26% raised out of state)

25 to one and little effect.

Maybe he can squirrel whatever is left over in his Governor  legal defense fund. I'm sure he'll need it.) only Gov I know who has one.
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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #197 on: June 04, 2012, 12:19:15 PM »
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Walker 30.5 million (62% raised out of state) has to go out of state to his corporate buddies
Barrett 3.2 million  (only 26% raised out of state)

25 to one and little effect.

 
 
You must have gone to one of them Wisconsin unionized public schools.  That's less than 10 to 1, nowhere near 25 to 1.   ::)
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« Reply #198 on: June 04, 2012, 01:17:07 PM »
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Walker 30.5 million (62% raised out of state) has to go out of state to his corporate buddies
Barrett 3.2 million  (only 26% raised out of state)

25 to one and little effect.

 
 
You must have gone to one of them Wisconsin unionized public schools.  That's less than 10 to 1, nowhere near 25 to 1.   ::)

Above is what they have raised , what has been spent this far is 25 to 1 .. IE : TV, radio etc..
Walker has outspent by 25 dollars for every 1 dollar spent on the other side.
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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #199 on: June 04, 2012, 03:05:04 PM »
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Walker 30.5 million (62% raised out of state) has to go out of state to his corporate buddies
Barrett 3.2 million  (only 26% raised out of state)

25 to one and little effect.
 
 
You must have gone to one of them Wisconsin unionized public schools.  That's less than 10 to 1, nowhere near 25 to 1.   ::)

Above is what they have raised , what has been spent this far is 25 to 1 .. IE : TV, radio etc..
Walker has outspent by 25 dollars for every 1 dollar spent on the other side.

None of which takes into consideration what the Unions have poured into this on Barrett's behalf! They spent millions from their members dues and took contributions to promote their "cause"......AKA Barrett.
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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #200 on: June 04, 2012, 03:57:16 PM »
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Walker 30.5 million (62% raised out of state) has to go out of state to his corporate buddies
Barrett 3.2 million  (only 26% raised out of state)

25 to one and little effect.
 
 
You must have gone to one of them Wisconsin unionized public schools.  That's less than 10 to 1, nowhere near 25 to 1.   ::)

Above is what they have raised , what has been spent this far is 25 to 1 .. IE : TV, radio etc..
Walker has outspent by 25 dollars for every 1 dollar spent on the other side.

None of which takes into consideration what the Unions have poured into this on Barrett's behalf! They spent millions from their members dues and took contributions to promote their "cause"......AKA Barrett.

Correct, Unions have poured staggering amounts of money into their lousy efforts. And everyone knows that, but to understand the crap coming from the union boys, please refer to post #221
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« Reply #201 on: June 04, 2012, 04:53:42 PM »

Maybe he can squirrel whatever is left over in his Governor  legal defense fund. I'm sure he'll need it.) only Gov I know who has one.

scootrd,

The only criminal acts that I have seen perpetrated in Wisconsin have been by the union thugs -- destruction of public property, assault and battery, making threats against public officials, to name a few.

You should probably acknowledge crimes actually committed by one side before making allegations of crimes committed by the other side.   

I also hope Scott Walker wins.

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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #202 on: June 04, 2012, 10:40:54 PM »
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Walker 30.5 million (62% raised out of state) has to go out of state to his corporate buddies
Barrett 3.2 million  (only 26% raised out of state)

25 to one and little effect.

 
 
You must have gone to one of them Wisconsin unionized public schools.  That's less than 10 to 1, nowhere near 25 to 1.   ::)

Above is what they have raised , what has been spent this far is 25 to 1 .. IE : TV, radio etc..
Walker has outspent by 25 dollars for every 1 dollar spent on the other side.

That's because nobody wants Barrett but the uninformed. Who wants their guns taken away and the Unions telling you what you have yo do. The reason Walker has outspent Barrett is because more people are in support of Walker than Barrett. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. Go Walker ;D
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« Reply #203 on: June 04, 2012, 10:46:57 PM »
Just knowing what unions are about, and the fact that they want elected someone that is going to give the unions what they want. Tells enough of the story.
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« Reply #204 on: June 05, 2012, 03:11:43 AM »
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Walker 30.5 million (62% raised out of state) has to go out of state to his corporate buddies
Barrett 3.2 million  (only 26% raised out of state)

25 to one and little effect.

 
 
You must have gone to one of them Wisconsin unionized public schools.  That's less than 10 to 1, nowhere near 25 to 1.   ::)

LOL!!! You beat me to it Casull!
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« Reply #205 on: June 05, 2012, 02:59:11 PM »
THE BOLSHEVIKS LOST THIS ROUND!!!  :) ;) :D ;D ;D
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« Reply #206 on: June 05, 2012, 03:06:15 PM »
Another glorious day in the annals of freedom and justice....we have kept the barbarians outside the gates.    The union thugs will now go pout. 

I wonder if the organizations that made loans to the unions for this campaign will now call in the promissory notes.   Talk about busting a union.....

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« Reply #207 on: June 05, 2012, 03:06:52 PM »
Yep, looking like a BLOWOUT for Walker.  Latest numbers show Walker 58.5% to Barrett's 40.9%.  Not even close.
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« Reply #208 on: June 05, 2012, 03:09:51 PM »
This is a great day for America and I hope it is a portent of things to come in November.
 

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« Reply #209 on: June 05, 2012, 03:20:54 PM »
The people of Wisconsin have spoken (again) and support doing the right things, which sometimes are the tough choices to repair this state.  Now all you out of state union thugs who have been terrorizing this state can go away - forever.  Wonder if we will hear from the union reps here???
 
 
Right now 48% in and Walker leads Backwards Barrett 58% to 42%, what a blowout!!!!
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