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Re: This is attributed to the Donald..
« Reply #60 on: May 07, 2012, 06:47:27 AM »
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Here' a clearing house site for transplant candidates....115,000 needing a transplant, and another 73,000 also in need...
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http://www.unos.org/
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...TM7

Looked at that, it doesn't make sense. "Needing" and "waiting"? Aside from that, those are still "dog wagging" percentages.

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« Reply #61 on: May 07, 2012, 11:32:34 PM »
  Much of the crying about medical care is by politicians wanting to enlarge the federal govt.  They try to present an enlargement of the federal govt as a panacea for all of societal ills, when the federal govt is actually the progenitor of many of societies ills.
  There are claims by those who actually READ the Obamacare bill (as opposed to most who voted for it and who didn't read it), that there will be "rationing boards' for costly medical services.
 
   Ignoring the political spin by the control freak politicians, let us use our gray matter:
        If Obamacare is as wonderful as those who voted it in claim it is..why didn't they drop their special congressional coverage and subject THEMSELVES to the same "CARE" they are trying to thrust upon the rest of us ?
 
  Don't bother to reply...  just think !
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Re: This is attributed to the Donald..
« Reply #62 on: May 07, 2012, 11:38:58 PM »

Yep that's the major of 98.6% of college grads? ::) Tell us,since your so maketable, what exactly is your profession? It may help someone .

I'm pretty sure you already know, since you jump in on so many threads that your libby pals are in and it has been discussed in some of them. Regardless, my profession is not germaine to the subject matter, what is germaine is that if you make poor choices, you have no one too blame but yourself.
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  just what are you getting at here ?  What are you trying to say ?  Did you discover a new word, or rather, a word that is new to you..?
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Re: This is attributed to the Donald..
« Reply #63 on: May 08, 2012, 05:44:44 AM »
They have told me that 1/4 to 1/3 of their operating costs are administration and bureacracy to deal with all these HC insurance business', and to deal with delay of payments, oks, etc.....
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..TM7.
one GOOD secretary can easily handle four doctors.  that's what they have where my doctor works, and most patients are as old as the hills.
most colleges have a 1year program that can produce those GOOD secretaries, but they have to be serious about their work.
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Re: This is attributed to the Donald..
« Reply #64 on: May 08, 2012, 06:49:50 AM »
They have told me that 1/4 to 1/3 of their operating costs are administration and bureacracy to deal with all these HC insurance business', and to deal with delay of payments, oks, etc.....
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..TM7.
one GOOD secretary can easily handle four doctors.  that's what they have where my doctor works and most patients are as old as the hills.
most colleges have a 1year program that can produce those GOOD secretaries, but they have to be serious about their work.
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If your doctor is strickly medicare ...maybe. You best check again on their admin staff...bookkeeper re'cvr and billables, purchaser, insurance co-ordinator, appt. sec and so on.....if the doctor is doing over 1 million$ a year in gross he isn't doing that with one secretary.  Just look at the staff employed by HC insurance companies alone, since they mucked everything up going for profit under Reagen sign off.. 
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..TM7
okay, you've won me over.  I'm gonna promote obama care, islam, anti-semitism, and start arguing with all these ignorant conservatives with their so-called sensible answers to the issues.
can we cut our wrists and become blood-brothers??

 ::) ::) ::)
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Re: This is attributed to the Donald..
« Reply #65 on: May 08, 2012, 10:25:47 AM »
I have an idea that may help cut costs for those of you unwilling to pay your own freight. Refuse any service that requires any computing power whatsoever, on top of that refuse treatment with any prescription drug that was developed during or after the Reagan administration.


If you want to take advantage of advancements in medical treatment you are going to have to pay for them. What is so hard to understand?


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Re: This is attributed to the Donald..
« Reply #66 on: May 08, 2012, 10:59:07 AM »
They have told me that 1/4 to 1/3 of their operating costs are administration and bureacracy to deal with all these HC insurance business', and to deal with delay of payments, oks, etc.....
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..TM7.
one GOOD secretary can easily handle four doctors.  that's what they have where my doctor works and most patients are as old as the hills.
most colleges have a 1year program that can produce those GOOD secretaries, but they have to be serious about their work.
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If your doctor is strickly medicare ...maybe. You best check again on their admin staff...bookkeeper re'cvr and billables, purchaser, insurance co-ordinator, appt. sec and so on.....if the doctor is doing over 1 million$ a year in gross he isn't doing that with one secretary.  Just look at the staff employed by HC insurance companies alone, since they mucked everything up going for profit under Reagen sign off.. 
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..TM7
okay, you've won me over.  I'm gonna promote obama care, islam, anti-semitism, and start arguing with all these ignorant conservatives with their so-called sensible answers to the issues.
can we cut our wrists and become blood-brothers??

 ::) ::) ::)
Now Bug- you don't have to do all that- just cut your wrists. :D
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Re: This is attributed to the Donald..
« Reply #67 on: May 09, 2012, 02:48:34 AM »

Now Bug- you don't have to do all that- just cut your wrists. :D
since I'm no longer productive, I'm sure that hussein and his minions would love that...
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Re: This is attributed to the Donald..
« Reply #68 on: May 09, 2012, 12:37:32 PM »
Competition improves everything.  There is no way government can beat private enterprise services for efficency  Compare;
 
  The Post office with..FedEx or UPS
  Govt teachers with Christian school teachers
 
     If you enjoy your contacts with the DMV, EPA and IRS..you may learn to like govt medicine..
 
  Let's be candid, much of the exponential costs for medicine are because of unnecessary tests and undeserved malpractice awards..because of and manfacture by ambulance chasing lawyers..
 
  BTW:  Every time "tort reform" comes up..the Democrats shoot it down.  I suppose that has nothing to do with the fact that trial lawyers are one of the biggest donor groups for the DNC..
 
  The dems didn't even allow tort reform in Obamacare.. That HAS to tell us something..right ?
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Re: This is attributed to the Donald..
« Reply #69 on: May 10, 2012, 02:23:07 AM »
so gay employees want to force Christian and Jew employers to turn their back on God and subsidize a partnership that is an abomination to God.
it's hard enough to avoid sin, without the government forcing it on us.
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Re: This is attributed to the Donald..
« Reply #70 on: May 10, 2012, 05:35:15 AM »

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Competition improves everything.  There is no way government can beat private enterprise services for efficency
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Not according to corporate HC spokesmen..they said there was no way they could compete with a Universal HC plan...that's what they said.
Properly run government, like anything else properly and honestly run, can compete with anything else out there in the landscape....in fact we are seeing alot of 'cures'  rather than 'treatments' coming out of not for profit HC systems, because that's where the incentive is curing rather than treating.
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The point you seem to have missed is that government cannot do a better job, but it CAN legislate competition out of business.

How often does government get anything done within budget or on time?
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« Reply #71 on: May 10, 2012, 01:54:02 PM »

All the time....You work for the governmnent don't you...?  I wouldn't be biting the hand that feeds you....Thats what I find interseting about the so-called conservatives....governmnet is OK carrying on wars, intel and weapons research..police and fire departments,,,highway mainetenence and coordination and countless other activities...EXCEPT when its stuff they don't agree with...then governmnet sucks.

Yes I work for the people. And I do not fear the government, I will speak my mind when I please. If they want to shut me up they know where to find me.

And I see constant reminders of government waste and inefficiency, near daily. I notice you didn't cite any examples of them getting anything done on time or within budget. I'm sure you can find a web site that indicates they do though.................... pardon me if I don't hold my breath while you find thousands of stellar examples.

And yes, I'm sick to death of the ongoing wars, and I don't fear speaking up about about it. We have been at "war" nearly all of my adult life and what do we have to show for it? More waste and more inefficiency! The waste that goes on in everything you mentioned above is outrageous........government sucks!!!! Right out of the taxpayers wallet!

And that's the major problems with your arguments, "the taxpayers can foot the bill for EVERYTHING". Harrison Schultz seems to think so too. ::)
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Re: This is attributed to the Donald..
« Reply #72 on: May 11, 2012, 01:43:21 AM »
so gay employees want to force Christian and Jew employers to turn their back on God and subsidize a partnership that is an abomination to God.
it's hard enough to avoid sin, without the government forcing it on us.
. Not exacttly my wording,, ::) ,,but yeah, if they want and need HC....and you're helping promote this 'abombination' using your words, by a keeping a restricted HC system....errrr market... ::)
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TM7
how am I helping promote this abomination???
by your logic, if I have roaches in the house, I feed them to get rid of them. ::)
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