« previous next »
Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: 2 quetions  (Read 718 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline woodsrunner

  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 105
  • Gender: Male
2 quetions
« on: May 08, 2012, 04:58:10 AM »
Question #1-- is there a recoil difference between a 12ga and a 20 ga, both shooting the same weight load at the same speed?

Question #2--what is your opinion of the H&R factory screw in chokes versus one from a custom maker?

Thinking of upgrading my turkey gun, just trying to figure out which way to go. Thanks for any input.
Logged
Good Hunting--Woodsrunner

Offline bikerbeans

  • Trade Count: (168)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4070
  • Gender: Male
  • BANDIT - North American Snake Hound
Re: 2 quetions
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2012, 02:30:16 PM »
The weight of the powder charge and weight of the gun also figure into the recoil equation.  I am guessing that unless you load your own turkey loads you will have trouble 12 & 20 ga turkey loads that have the same weight of shot. 
 
BB
Logged
RIP Tom: Tom Nolan, ( bikerbeans) passed away this afternoon (02-04-2021).

Why be difficult, when with a little extra effort you can be impossible?

Wife's Handis;  300 BLKOUT

MINE:  270W, 308x444, 44 Bodeen, 410 shorty rifled slug gun, 445 SuperMag Shikari, 45 ACP shorty,  45-70 Shikari, 45 Cal Smokeless MZ, 50cal 24" SS Sidekick, 50 cal 24" Huntsman, 50 cal 26" Huntsman, 50 cal 26" Sidekick, 50-70 Govt Shikari, Tracker II 20 ga shorty, 20 ga VR Pardner, 20ga USH, 12ga VR NWTF, 12ga Tracker II shorty WITHOUT scope, 12ga USH, 10 ga  Pardner Smoothbore slug gun & 24ga Profino Custom rifled slug gun.

Offline quickdtoo

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (149)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 43302
  • Gender: Male
Re: 2 quetions
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2012, 04:22:16 AM »
Here's a shotgun recoil calculator.

Tim

http://zknives.com/bali/brcstgn.shtml
Logged
"Always do right, this will gratify some and astonish the rest" -  Mark Twain

Offline SHOOTALL

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23836
Re: 2 quetions
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2012, 04:44:36 AM »
the weight of the gun matters alot. When starting my sons out with a shotgun both favored a 12 ga 870 over a 20 shooting the same loads . The stock of the 12 was cut to youth length. The extra weight and bigger but plate both helped. That was a good side by side test as they are a close match
Many custom chokes are longer and in most cases give better patterns.A longer tube allows for ckoke constriction and a good length of paraell wall before the shot exits the bore. Briley has tubes that are long and threaded the entire way , they are good with steel shot even in larger shot sizes. You may want to lengthen the forcing cone and match the choke restriction to your bore dia. Just because a choke says mod it may not be so in your gun. A custom choke tube maker can match your bore to the tube needed to achieve the pattern you want at the distance you want it . WITH IN REASON !
Logged
If ya can see it ya can hit it !

Offline spikehorn

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (84)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3000
  • Gender: Male
Re: 2 quetions
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2012, 01:00:53 PM »
Mossberg 500 chokes fit so there are plenty of after market chokes to choose from. Rather than having a custom job done.
 
Logged
308 win                 45-70                       12ga         
30-30                    223 stainless steel   20ga TDC
44 mag                  Tracker II 20ga        20ga
45-70 Manlicher     20ga USH                28ga
                                                              410ga

Offline Rustyinfla

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (4)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1744
Re: 2 quetions
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2012, 06:15:11 AM »


   If you're using the same weight charge at the same velocity pure physics says the recoil will be the same if the guns both weigh the same. That's also the easiest thing to change.
  When my son was old enough to shoot a shotgun I got him a 20 gauge H&R but he didn't like it cause Dad shot a 12 gauge. I ended up trading the 20 for a 12 but wrapped some birdshot in a rag and put it in the butstock to add more weight thus reducing the recoil. After a while HE CAME UP WITH THE IDEA that he could live with the recoil in exchange for the better balance. While turkey hunting balance might not be that big a concern. It's up to you.
Logged
If you're gonna be stupid ya gotta be tuff

Offline SHOOTALL

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23836
Re: 2 quetions
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2012, 03:58:53 AM »
Briley has tubes for most threads so you can enjoy the benifits of custon extended tubes for about $40.00 .
Logged
If ya can see it ya can hit it !

Offline quickdtoo

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (149)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 43302
  • Gender: Male
Re: 2 quetions
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2012, 04:20:17 AM »
Most any choke mfr sells extended chokes for H&Rs, single shots use the same tubes as Winchesters, Browning Invector(not plus) and Mossberg 500.  ;)

Tim
Logged
"Always do right, this will gratify some and astonish the rest" -  Mark Twain
Pages: [1]   Go Up
« previous next »