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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2012, 12:31:12 PM »
Who were Saudis.....so we attack Iraq and Afganistan?
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2012, 12:57:54 PM »
Again, Christians should not support Obama.  We elected a Muslim, and I am content....not happy....content.....to replace the Muslim with a Mormon.

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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2012, 01:25:51 PM »
It isn't possible to be a Christian and a democrat.

There is a number of things I don't agree with you on Swampy, but I'm in total agreement here.
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2012, 03:00:48 PM »
Barton may or may not be a Christian, but he sure sounds like a disingenuous idiot wearing religious robes.

I see you're still drinking Obummers koolaid like a good little follower  ;)
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2012, 03:13:42 PM »
Again, Christians should not support Obama.  We elected a Muslim, and I am content....not happy....content.....to replace the Muslim with a Mormon.

ST762

I'm in....
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2012, 04:03:42 PM »
It isn't possible to be a Christian and a democrat.

 
I couldn't agree more. Real Christians CANNOT support those who support murdering babies and homosexual marriage, which obama does. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2012, 04:25:39 PM »
   TM says;
     " IG,,excuse me sir...you attacked the wrong countries"
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    Sorry TM..you better review my post...I didn't mention any specific countries.  Iraq was attacked because they broke the agreements they signed after getting their butt kicked in the gulf war..  Remember when Saddam had his "ring of death" or some such thing..which our armor punched through in minutes?  Remember when Iraqis were surrendering by the hundreds to unarmed drone airplanes ?
  Well, when Saddam agreed to his surrender papers..he guaranteeed "unfettered access to" his nuclear development bases, and among other things he agreed to a "no fly"zone.  Part of that deal was no hostile acts would be allowed toward allied planes.
   Among many other things he refused access to the nuclear regulatory inspectors and started shooting rockets at allied airplanes.  He was told time after time to cease and desist...but he refused..  So he got it again...some folks are slow learners.
  He didn't learn much before they slipped the noose around his neck.
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2012, 04:51:30 PM »
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Incidently, I really like those 2 pictures you chose for show and tell.  Picture #1 shows most all of the jet fuel blowing out a Tower and burning in air. Picture #2 shows literally a dust fountain, complete dustification, of a building blown to smithereens...Very good shots...good choices!
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You really like those pictures  ,,eh?
I thought you would be tired of looking at those pictures by now.
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2012, 05:43:35 PM »
Again, Christians should not support Obama.  We elected a Muslim, and I am content....not happy....content.....to replace the Muslim with a Mormon.
ST762
I'm in....
I am too, barring some miracle that gets my man Dr Paul in there....


For those of you stating that it is impossible to be a Christian and a Democrat... You're just wrong. Yeah, yeah... I know how it feels to make such pronouncements, with certainty and sticking it out there... But you are clearly, unmistakenly wrong. I'll not speculate on reasons
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2012, 07:46:38 PM »
Again, Christians should not support Obama.  We elected a Muslim, and I am content....not happy....content.....to replace the Muslim with a Mormon.
ST762
I'm in....
I am too, barring some miracle that gets my man Dr Paul in there....


For those of you stating that it is impossible to be a Christian and a Democrat... You're just wrong. Yeah, yeah... I know how it feels to make such pronouncements, with certainty and sticking it out there... But you are clearly, unmistakenly wrong. I'll not speculate on reasons


Todays democrat is liberal or at best centerist, Christ, and therefore christians, are found elsewhere. 
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2012, 11:46:04 PM »
For those of you stating that it is impossible to be a Christian and a Democrat... You're just wrong. Yeah, yeah... I know how it feels to make such pronouncements, with certainty and sticking it out there... But you are clearly, unmistakenly wrong. I'll not speculate on reasons


What ways does Christianity line up with the democratic platform. Oh, thats right democrats are all about inslaveing
people with welfare, in the name of giving.
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2012, 12:34:45 AM »
trained at US mil bases
.TM7
you never give up do you??
they never trained at any military facility.

back on topic, people think they are casting a secret ballot, but they're not. God is right there watching to see if you choose life, or death, for his little ones.

many times a late term abortion is botched and you end up with a live healthy baby. hussein voted to put the baby in a bag and placed in a back room till it dies.
can anyone tell me that is not the epitome of evil??
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2012, 12:37:16 AM »
David Barton is the Founder and President of WallBuilders, a national pro-family organization that presents America's forgotten history and heroes, with an emphasis on our moral, religious and constitutional heritage.
 
WallBuilders is a name taken from the Old Testament writings of Nehemiah, who led a grassroots movement to rebuild the walls of Jerusalem and restore its strength and honor. In the same way, WallBuilders seeks to energize the grassroots today to become involved in strengthening their communities, states, and nation.
 
David is the author of numerous best-selling books, with the subjects being drawn largely from his massive library of tens of thousands of original writings from the Founding Era. He also addresses well over 400 groups each year.
 
His exhaustive research has rendered him an expert in historical and constitutional issues and he serves as a consultant to state and federal legislators, has participated in several cases at the Supreme Court, was involved in the development of the History/Social Studies standards for states such as Texas and California, and has helped produce history textbooks now used in schools across the nation.
 
A national news organization has described him as "America's historian," and Time Magazine called him "a hero to millions - including some powerful politicians. In fact, Time Magazine named him as one of America's 25 most influential evangelicals.
 
David has received numerous national and international awards, including Who's Who in Education, DAR's Medal of Honor, and the George Washington Honor Medal from the Freedoms Foundation at Valley Forge. His work in media has merited several Angel Awards, Telly Awards, and the Dove Foundation Seal of Approval.
 
Being Paulbears for Ron Paul, they should embrace Barton for his historical accuracy on issues of the Constitution and other founding documents and original historical writings from the founders. The problem seems to be that they don't like the Christianity that engulfs those documents and writings from the men, (and women), who founded this great country. Barton literally owns many of the documents, books and even one of the first 'United States Senate Approved' Bibles that he speaks and writes about. What more proof is needed.
 
"Our Constitution was made for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any others."
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Some people just can't stand that and other truths about our founding so we have revisionist history taught in schools now. A college degree really means nothing anymore when it comes to history.
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2012, 12:51:16 AM »

many times a late term abortion is botched and you end up with a live healthy baby. hussein voted to put the baby in a bag and placed in a back room till it dies.
can anyone tell me that is not the epitome of evil??
BUGEYE

 
"Epitome of evil" was my exact thought when it appeared on the White House website two days after Obama's inauguration that he had appropriated 400 million dollars for overseas abortions. Including forced abortion in China. As if China needed some of it's money back to make it happen. and it's clear that he had planned it out before he was even president. Just 'in your face' evil!!
" FIREARMS STAND NEXT IN IMPORTANCE TO THE CONSTITUTION ITSELF. THEY ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE'S LIBERTY TEETH AND KEYSTONE UNDER INDEPENDENCE."       George Washington

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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2012, 04:30:17 AM »
As it is to be a Christian and a Jew hater.
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2012, 04:31:27 AM »
Uunh, huh, Oooooh, I see. Ok, thanx for that official synopsis..... ::) ::) ::) ::)  Wonder why the Father said don't occupy Iracq--you will own it and wear it around your neck...but the son didn't listen....and we all pay.....niiiice... ::)   Ridiculous...
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One thing I know...you can't be a Christian and an islamophobic xenophobe and war maker at the same time...just can't..its written.

Nice, you couldn't dispute what he wrote so you fell back on twisting the words of God to suit your particuar need of the moment. LOL!!!
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #46 on: May 10, 2012, 04:47:33 AM »
SaddleBum, some good posts my friend.


TM7,  bashing muzzies didn't start here.
http://bible.cc/genesis/16-12.htm
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2012, 05:03:39 AM »
SaddleBum, some good posts my friend.


TM7,  bashing muzzies didn't start here.
http://bible.cc/genesis/16-12.htm
Relatively meaningless verse on stubbornness....I reckon if the Ishmaelite line wasn't 'stubborn they would have been eradicated along time ago......

The serpent's seed will be gone soon enough.
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #48 on: May 10, 2012, 05:28:49 AM »
TM, you spend WAY too much time on The Conspiracy Theory board! ::)

How's the congressional investigation coming on that?
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« Reply #49 on: May 10, 2012, 05:47:18 AM »
TM, you spend WAY too much time on The Conspiracy Theory board! ::)

How's the congressional investigation coming on that?
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #50 on: May 10, 2012, 08:04:04 AM »
I've asked before and gotten NO ANSWERS, so I'll ask again. Any, or all, of you pro death pro gay guys please give us some scripture and verse where GOD says that killing babies is ok, and that he supports perverts. ANYBODY?? If you were really Christians you would know that these things are wrong. Come on guys, you call yourself Christians, SHOW ME. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #51 on: May 10, 2012, 09:50:35 AM »
TM, you spend WAY too much time on The Conspiracy Theory board! ::)

How's the congressional investigation coming on that?
. You spend way to much time with your head in the sand....come up for some air once in a while.... ;D


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Haven't told us yet how the congressional investigation is coming along.....having trouble finding it? ::)        Here let me give you a link http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/board,185.0.html
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #52 on: May 10, 2012, 09:54:53 AM »
I've asked before and gotten NO ANSWERS, so I'll ask again. Any, or all, of you pro death pro gay guys please give us some scripture and verse where GOD says that killing babies is ok, and that he supports perverts. ANYBODY?? If you were really Christians you would know that these things are wrong. Come on guys, you call yourself Christians, SHOW ME. POWDERMAN.  :o :o

A fetus isn't a baby.
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #53 on: May 10, 2012, 10:26:05 AM »
A human fetus is genetically individual human, not part of the mother, just attached to her.  A chickens egg doesn't have to have the mother hen to incubate and become another individual chicken.  Can a 5 month fetus live if taken out of the mother.  Yes it can, my twin grandaughters were born at 5 months, early, and only a little over 2#'s each.  Does this matter if it was an abortion, that had to crush the skull to KILL the FETUS, yet it can survive outside the mothers body 85% of the time after 5 months.  A 5 month old fetus in a human mother sure ain't going to be a horse.  It is HUMAN. 
 
A true Christian CANNOT in their right mind support Obama.   

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« Reply #54 on: May 10, 2012, 11:31:23 AM »
A fetus doesn't have a soul yet and so it isn't a baby.  That's the facts no matter what anyone says.
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #55 on: May 10, 2012, 11:56:17 AM »
A fetus doesn't have a soul yet and so it isn't a baby.  That's the facts no matter what anyone says.

This is one of the times of disagreement I mentioned earlier. Where do you get this stuff from?   
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #56 on: May 10, 2012, 11:57:20 AM »
Back to the original subject: Should Christians support Obama? No. NO ONE with even the slightest smattering of intelligence should support Obama, Christian, Jew atheist or otherwise.
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #57 on: May 10, 2012, 12:28:12 PM »
A fetus doesn't have a soul yet and so it isn't a baby.  That's the facts no matter what anyone says.

This is one of the times of disagreement I mentioned earlier. Where do you get this stuff from?
Until a fetus takes the breath of life, it has no soul.  It's scriptual.
 
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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #58 on: May 10, 2012, 01:18:37 PM »
Back to the original subject: Should Christians support Obama? No. NO ONE with even the slightest smattering of intelligence should support Obama, Christian, Jew atheist or otherwise.
I understand your view, but the fact is that many smart people of many religious stripes do support President Obama.
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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Re: Should Christians support Obama ?
« Reply #59 on: May 10, 2012, 01:30:07 PM »
Back to the original subject: Should Christians support Obama? No. NO ONE with even the slightest smattering of intelligence should support Obama, Christian, Jew atheist or otherwise.
I understand your view, but the fact is that many smart people of many religious stripes do support President Obama.

That just goes to show you that the collective intelligence of our fellow man is pathetic. This president has thrown us straight into the dumper and now he want 4 more years to slam the lid shut.
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