Should Christians support Obama ?

[Alaska Dave]

Back to the original subject: Should Christians support Obama? No. NO ONE with even the slightest smattering of intelligence should support Obama, Christian, Jew atheist or otherwise.

I understand your view, but the fact is that many smart people of many religious stripes do support President Obama.

And many believe that he's bought and paid by his handlers. He has no business running a country let alone his own household. He's surrounded himself with inept people just so that he feels at home.

[powderman]

He's surrounded himself with inept people just so that he feels at home.

 
ALASKA DAVE. YEP, kinda like how a ugly girl surrounds herself with uglier girls so she'll look better. POWDERMAN. 

[nw_hunter]

The subject was.............Should Christians Support Obama!
Since that question was asked, this thread has gone from Abortion to the 911 atrocity.The next one that strays from the topic , gets it locked! "Good Grief" Can any of you flame masters just answer a question posed by the OP and let it go? Let me give you an example.


I'm a democrat Christian and my answer is YES!
I'm a Republican Christian, my answer is NO!


By the way Swampman..........No one asked for your definition of a FETUS, or a lesson on Scripture!
Keep it on topic or keep quiet!

[ironglow]

Back to the original subject: Should Christians support Obama? No. NO ONE with even the slightest smattering of intelligence should support Obama, Christian, Jew atheist or otherwise.

I understand your view, but the fact is that many smart people of many religious stripes do support President Obama.

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  Doesn't mean they are right YT !

[saddlebum]

 

America’s Most Biblically-Hostile U. S. President

When one observes President Obama’s unwillingness to accommodate America’s four-century long religious conscience protection through his attempts to require Catholics to go against their own doctrines and beliefs, one is tempted to say that he is anti-Catholic. But that characterization would not be correct. Although he has recently singled out Catholics, he has equally targeted traditional Protestant beliefs over the past four years. So since he has attacked Catholics and Protestants, one is tempted to say that he is anti-Christian. But that, too, would be inaccurate. He has been equally disrespectful in his appalling treatment of religious Jews in general and Israel in particular. So perhaps the most accurate description of his antipathy toward Catholics, Protestants, religious Jews, and the Jewish nation would be to characterize him as anti-Biblical. And then when his hostility toward Biblical people of faith is contrasted with his preferential treatment of Muslims and Muslim nations, it further strengthens the accuracy of the anti-Biblical descriptor. In fact, there have been numerous clearly documented times when his pro-Islam positions have been the cause of his anti-Biblical actions.
Listed below in chronological order are (1) numerous records of his attacks on Biblical persons or organizations; (2) examples of the hostility toward Biblical faith that have become evident in the past three years in the Obama-led military; (3) a listing of his open attacks on Biblical values; and finally (4) a listing of numerous incidents of his preferential deference for Islam’s activities and positions, including letting his Islamic advisors guide and influence his hostility toward people of Biblical faith.
1. Acts of hostility toward people of Biblical faith:
 

• April 2008 – Obama speaks disrespectfully of Christians, saying they “cling to guns or religion” and have an “antipathy to people who aren't like them.” ^{[size=-4]1[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• February 2009 – Obama announces plans to revoke conscience protection for health workers who refuse to participate in medical activities that go against their beliefs, and fully implements the plan in February 2011. ^{[size=-4]2[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• April 2009 – When speaking at Georgetown University, Obama orders that a monogram symbolizing Jesus' name be covered when he is making his speech. ^{[size=-4]3[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• May 2009 – Obama declines to host services for the National Prayer Day (a day established by federal law) at the White House. ^{[size=-4]4[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• April 2009 – In a deliberate act of disrespect, Obama nominated three pro-abortion ambassadors to the Vatican; of course, the pro-life Vatican rejected all three. ^{[size=-4]5[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• October 19, 2010 – Obama begins deliberately omitting the phrase about “the Creator” when quoting the Declaration of Independence – an omission he has made on no less than seven occasions. ^{[size=-4]6[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• November 2010 – Obama misquotes the National Motto, saying it is “E pluribus unum” rather than “In God We Trust” as established by federal law. ^{[size=-4]7[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• January 2011 – After a federal law was passed to transfer a WWI Memorial in the Mojave Desert to private ownership, the U. S. Supreme Court ruled that the cross in the memorial could continue to stand, but the Obama administration refused to allow the land to be transferred as required by law, and refused to allow the cross to be re-erected as ordered by the Court. ^{[size=-4]8[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• February 2011 – Although he filled posts in the State Department, for more than two years Obama did not fill the post of religious freedom ambassador, an official that works against religious persecution across the world; he filled it only after heavy pressure from the public and from Congress. ^{[size=-4]9[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• April 2011 – For the first time in American history, Obama urges passage of a non-discrimination law that does not contain hiring protections for religious groups, forcing religious organizations to hire according to federal mandates without regard to the dictates of their own faith, thus eliminating conscience protection in hiring. ^{[size=-4]10[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• August 2011 – The Obama administration releases its new health care rules that override religious conscience protections for medical workers in the areas of abortion and contraception. ^{[size=-4]11[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• November 2011 – Obama opposes inclusion of President Franklin Roosevelt’s famous D-Day Prayer in the WWII Memorial. ^{[size=-4]12[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• November 2011 – Unlike previous presidents, Obama studiously avoids any religious references in his Thanksgiving speech. ^{[size=-4]13[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• December 2011 – The Obama administration denigrates other countries' religious beliefs as an obstacle to radical homosexual rights. ^{[size=-4]14[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• January 2012 – The Obama administration argues that the First Amendment provides no protection for churches and synagogues in hiring their pastors and rabbis. ^{[size=-4]15[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• February 2012 – The Obama administration forgives student loans in exchange for public service, but announces it will no longer forgive student loans if the public service is related to religion. ^{[size=-4]16[/size]}[/url]

2. Acts of hostility from the Obama-led military toward people of Biblical faith:
 

• June 2011 – The Department of Veterans Affairs forbids references to God and Jesus during burial ceremonies at Houston National Cemetery. ^{[size=-4]17[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• August 2011 – The Air Force stops teaching the Just War theory to officers in California because the course is taught by chaplains and is based on a philosophy introduced by St. Augustine in the third century AD – a theory long taught by civilized nations across the world (except America). ^{[size=-4]18[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• September 2011 – Air Force Chief of Staff prohibits commanders from notifying airmen of programs and services available to them from chaplains. ^{[size=-4]19[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• September 2011 – The Army issues guidelines for Walter Reed Medical Center stipulating that “No religious items (i.e. Bibles, reading materials and/or facts) are allowed to be given away or used during a visit.” ^{[size=-4]20[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• November 2011 – The Air Force Academy rescinds support for Operation Christmas Child, a program to send holiday gifts to impoverished children across the world, because the program is run by a Christian charity. ^{[size=-4]21[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• November 2011 – The Air Force Academy pays $80,000 to add a Stonehenge-like worship center for pagans, druids, witches and Wiccans. ^{[size=-4]22[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• February 2012 – The U. S. Military Academy at West Point disinvites three star Army general and decorated war hero Lieutenant General William G. (“Jerry”) Boykin (retired) from speaking at an event because he is an outspoken Christian. ^{[size=-4]23[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• February 2012 – The Air Force removes “God” from the patch of Rapid Capabilities Office (the word on the patch was in Latin: Dei). ^{[size=-4]24[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• February 2012 – The Army orders Catholic chaplains not to read a letter to parishioners that their archbishop asked them to read. ^{[size=-4]25[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• April 2012 – A checklist for Air Force Inns will no longer include ensuring that a Bible is available in rooms for those who want to use them.^{[size=-4]26[/size]}[/url]
  

3. Acts of hostility toward Biblical values:
 

• January 2009 – Obama lifts restrictions on U.S. government funding for groups that provide abortion services or counseling abroad, forcing taxpayers to fund pro-abortion groups that either promote or perform abortions in other nations. ^{[size=-4]27[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• January 2009 – President Obama’s nominee for deputy secretary of state asserts that American taxpayers are required to pay for abortions and that limits on abortion funding are unconstitutional. ^{[size=-4]28[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• March 2009 – The Obama administration shut out pro-life groups from attending a White House-sponsored health care summit. ^{[size=-4]29[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• March 2009 – Obama orders taxpayer funding of embryonic stem cell research. ^{[size=-4]30[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• March 2009 – Obama gave $50 million for the UNFPA, the UN population agency that promotes abortion and works closely with Chinese population control officials who use forced abortions and involuntary sterilizations. ^{[size=-4]31[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• May 2009 – The White House budget eliminates all funding for abstinence-only education and replaces it with “comprehensive” sexual education, repeatedly proven to increase teen pregnancies and abortions. ^{[size=-4]32[/size]}[/url] He continues the deletion in subsequent budgets. ^{[size=-4]33[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• May 2009 – Obama officials assemble a terrorism dictionary calling pro-life advocates violent and charging that they use racism in their “criminal” activities. ^{[size=-4]34[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• July 2009 – The Obama administration illegally extends federal benefits to same-sex partners of Foreign Service and Executive Branch employees, in direction violation of the federal Defense of Marriage Act. ^{[size=-4]35[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• September 16, 2009 – The Obama administration appoints as EEOC Commissioner Chai Feldblum, who asserts that society should “not tolerate” any “private beliefs,” including religious beliefs, if they may negatively affect homosexual “equality.” ^{[size=-4]36[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• July 2010 – The Obama administration uses federal funds in violation of federal law to get Kenya to change its constitution to include abortion. ^{[size=-4]37[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• August 2010 – The Obama administration Cuts funding for 176 abstinence education programs. ^{[size=-4]38[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• September 2010 – The Obama administration tells researchers to ignore a judge’s decision striking down federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. ^{[size=-4]39[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• February 2011 – Obama directs the Justice Department to stop defending the federal Defense of Marriage Act. ^{[size=-4]40[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• March 2011 – The Obama administration refuses to investigate videos showing Planned Parenthood helping alleged sex traffickers get abortions for victimized underage girls. ^{[size=-4]41[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• July 2011 – Obama allows homosexuals to serve openly in the military, reversing a policy originally instituted by George Washington in March 1778. ^{[size=-4]42[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• September 2011 – The Pentagon directs that military chaplains may perform same-sex marriages at military facilities in violation of the federal Defense of Marriage Act. ^{[size=-4]43[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• October 2011 – The Obama administration eliminates federal grants to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops for their extensive programs that aid victims of human trafficking because the Catholic Church is anti-abortion. ^{[size=-4]44[/size]}[/url]

4. Acts of preferentialism for Islam:
 

• May 2009 – While Obama does not host any National Day of Prayer event at the White House, he does host White House Iftar dinners in honor of Ramadan. ^{[size=-4]45[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• April 2010 – Christian leader Franklin Graham is disinvited from the Pentagon’s National Day of Prayer Event because of complaints from the Muslim community. ^{[size=-4]46[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• April 2010 – The Obama administration requires rewriting of government documents and a change in administration vocabulary to remove terms that are deemed offensive to Muslims, including jihad, jihadists, terrorists, radical Islamic, etc. ^{[size=-4]47[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• August 2010 – Obama speaks with great praise of Islam and condescendingly of Christianity. ^{[size=-4]48[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• August 2010 – Obama went to great lengths to speak out on multiple occasions on behalf of building an Islamic mosque at Ground Zero, while at the same time he was silent about a Christian church being denied permission to rebuild at that location. ^{[size=-4]49[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• 2010 – While every White House traditionally issues hundreds of official proclamations and statements on numerous occasions, this White House avoids traditional Biblical holidays and events but regularly recognizes major Muslim holidays, as evidenced by its 2010 statements on Ramadan, Eid-ul-Fitr, Hajj, and Eid-ul-Adha. ^{[size=-4]50[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• October 2011 – Obama’s Muslim advisers block Middle Eastern Christians’ access to the White House. ^{[size=-4]51[/size]}[/url]
  
   
• February 2012 – The Obama administration makes effulgent apologies for Korans being burned by the U. S. military, ^{[size=-4]52[/size]}[/url] but when Bibles were burned by the military, numerous reasons were offered why it was the right thing to do. ^{[size=-4]53[/size]}[/url]
  

Many of these actions are literally unprecedented – this is the first time they have happened in four centuries of American history. The hostility of President Obama toward Biblical faith and values is without equal from any previous American president.

[m-g Willy]

After reading saddlebum's post,
It's not a question about "should christians support obama"
It's more like "anyone that supports obama ISN'T A CHRISTIAN"
You can call yourself anything you want,,,,but if you support obama you're not a christian!
 
 

[saddlebum]

My post above is from Barton's Wall Builders website. I was going to post a link to it but the link is a post unto itself in a pretty good sized paragraph and would not post as a link.
 
I got this in an email earlier today. It's interesting how much of the Constitution is based on the Bible and biblical theology.
 
God in the Constitution
Is America's Constitution truly aGodless Constitution? The Founding Fathers who wrote and ratified it certainly didn't think so! Not only did several of the delegates openly acknowledge God's hand in its formation, but numerous of them acknowledged specific Biblical passages that directly affected its formation. For example, George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, and John Adams all credited Jeremiah 17:9 for providing the principle undergirding the separation of powers. The principles in several other Biblical passages were directly incorporated into the Constitution, including Deuteronomy 17:15 and the Article II, Section 1 provision that a president must be a natural-born citizen. Then compare the Article III, Section 3 constitutional provision regarding witnesses and capital punishment with Deuteronomy 17:6. Or the Article III, Section 3 constitutional prohibition against attainder (that is, against punishing the whole family for the acts of one of its members) with Ezekiel 18:20. And several Founders cited Exodus 18:21 as the basis of republicanism, found in Article IV, Section 4. Ezra 7:24 establishes the type of tax exemptions that the Founders gave to our churches, and there are many other passages that provide a direct influence on the Constitution.
 
We have produced a new CD or MP3, God in the Constitution, that points out the many reasons from our Founding Fathers themselves demonstrating that the Constitution is definitely not Godless. Hear what they say not only about Bible verses such as those above but also about how the Bible shaped the "Sundays Excepted" Clause; the Oath Clauses; the Attestation Clause; the Common Law; and many other specific parts of the Constitution.

Equip yourself (and others) not only with great insight into constitutional clauses but also with the information necessary to push back against the Secular Progressive Left and its revisionists determined to expunge religion, morality, and constitutionalism from American life. Order your copy of God in the Constitution today!

 
http://www.wallbuilders.com/

[powderman]

After reading saddlebum's post,
It's not a question about "should christians support obama"
It's more like "anyone that supports obama ISN'T A CHRISTIAN"
You can call yourself anything you want,,,,but if you support obama you're not a christian!

 
M-G WILLY. Good post Sir, and TRUE.
SADDLEBUM. Good post Sir. POWDERMAN. 

[saddlebum]

Back to the original subject: Should Christians support Obama? No. NO ONE with even the slightest smattering of intelligence should support Obama, Christian, Jew atheist or otherwise.

I understand your view, but the fact is that many smart people of many religious stripes do support President Obama.

And many believe that he's bought and paid by his handlers. He has no business running a country let alone his own household. He's surrounded himself with inept people just so that he feels at home.

It's an atmosphere of 'Affimative Action'. These people in the present administration are largely 'Affirmative Action' employees that were promoted eventhough they are less qualified for the job and less likely to keep the oath they took to uphold the Constitution and duties of their office when they accepted the job. Let's face it, Obama is an 'Affirmative Action' president who only got the job because he is black. Not because he is qualified to be an American President. I won't even bring up his questionable birth place........OOPS!

[yellowtail3]

Let's face it, Obama is an 'Affirmative Action' president who only got the job because he is black. Not because he is qualified to be an American President. I won't even bring up his questionable birth place........OOPS!

Actually, he got the job  because he was voted into office by the citizns of our republic. He won an election, as called for in the Constitution. Heck, he even won the POPULAR vote, not just the electoral college vote... something that can't be said about the previous guy's first election to Prez.

[saddlebum]

Let's face it, Obama is an 'Affirmative Action' president who only got the job because he is black. Not because he is qualified to be an American President. I won't even bring up his questionable birth place........OOPS!

Actually, he got the job  because he was voted into office by the citizns of our republic. He won an election, as called for in the Constitution. Heck, he even won the POPULAR vote, not just the electoral college vote... something that can't be said about the previous guy's first election to Prez.

Because he is black. Not because of his resume.

[yellowtail3]

Because he is black. Not because of his resume.

that may be.... Just as many voted for Dubya because he said figured he was One Of Them, and not.because of his resume

My post above is from Barton's Wall Builders website. I was going to post a link to it but the link is a post unto itself in a pretty good sized paragraph and would not post as a link

no wonder Barton is such a hero to the Christianist Birther gang...

[saddlebum]

Because he is black. Not because of his resume.

that may be.... Just as many voted for Dubya because he said figured he was One Of Them, and not.because of his resume

Maybe. I don't know. The discussion is about Obama and thats what I posted about. Maybe you could start your own Bush bashing thread, if you want. But since you brought it up, whatever anyone thinks of Bush, his resume was far more extensive, professional and longterm than Obama's. He didn't get to be president because it was 'cool' to vote for a person of color or because it would make history because of his skin color. He had to get there on his merits, not his skin color. Lets see. Obama was a senator, (officially), for three years. Two of those years he spent campaigning for president and the year before that he didn't vote on any important legislation or voted 'present'. So without a proper resume to be president, the only thing left is his skin color and Marxist/socialist leanings and education. Not my idea of good qualifications for American President. The truth is many people that voted for him can't even tell you anything about him. Some of them even think that Sarah Palin is Vice President..........So that leaves us with nothing else but skin color for a reason for the ignorant to vote for him. The marxist, socialist and other radicals couldn't vote him in on their own without help. And to your earlier remark about "smart people support him", if you think the un-informed, marxist, socialist and other radicals are smart and have America's best interest at heart......then we are not on the same page, to say the least!
Smart seems to be an extremely relative term these days.........

[saddlebum]

My post above is from Barton's Wall Builders website. I was going to post a link to it but the link is a post unto itself in a pretty good sized paragraph and would not post as a link

no wonder Barton is such a hero to the Christianist Birther gang...

 
This nasty little comment and name calling just points back to my previous post about how Paulistinians can't stand the whole truth, and thats why they don't like Barton. Not to mention their temperment and mentality when they disagree with someone or don't know who or what they are talking about.
 
Good example!!.....Thanks!!

[yellowtail3]

Maybe. I don't know. The discussion is about Obama and thats what I posted about. Maybe you could start your own Bush bashing thread, if you want. But since you brought it up, whatever anyone thinks of Bush, his resume was far more extensive, professional and longterm than Obama's.

I've got no particular desire to bash Dubya... Heck I voted for him, and twice.  I simply point out that Obama Has at least as much legitimacy as Dubya, and that Dubya's supporters - esp those who place emphasis on gays and abortion - are no more 'sophisticated' than Obama's core supporters.
On Dubya's resume... it is best compared with Gore's in 2000, and that was the contrast I had in mind.

And yes, I do believe that Barton IS a hero to Christianists and Birthers. Do you think that he is not?
On the posed question on whether Christians should support Obama... They should if they think he's the best choice for president. There is no 'right' answer, except for those that would force ideological political conformity on Christians. Lot of that going around.

[BUGEYE]

My post above is from Barton's Wall Builders website. I was going to post a link to it but the link is a post unto itself in a pretty good sized paragraph and would not post as a link

no wonder Barton is such a hero to the Christianist Birther gang...

 
This nasty little comment and name calling just points back to my previous post about how Paulistinians can't stand the whole truth, and thats why they don't like Barton. Not to mention their temperment and mentality when they disagree with someone or don't know who or what they are talking about.
 
Good example!!.....Thanks!!

LOL

[lakota]

Shhhhh. Dont tell Yella that his liberal heroine Hillary Clinton is the ORIGINAL "birther"

[yellowtail3]

Shhhhh. Dont tell Yella that his liberal heroine Hillary Clinton is the ORIGINAL "birther"

(shrug) Hillary is no heroine to me; I've never voted for her (or for her husband). I do think she's been a pretty good SecState, but heroine? Naw... you'll have to find something else...

[DDZ]

Shhhhh. Dont tell Yella that his liberal heroine Hillary Clinton is the ORIGINAL "birther"

(shrug) Hillary is no heroine to me; I've never voted for her (or for her husband). I do think she's been a pretty good SecState, but heroine? Naw... you'll have to find something else...

Does being a pretty good SecState include conspiring behind closed doors with the UN, on the UN arms trade treaty. Obama is in full support of the AAT, as his girl Hillary leads international gun control. I figure if your beliefs line up with hers, then I guess she has done a pretty good job. Same thing as saying Obama has been a pretty good President.

[powderman]

I'm a democrat Christian and my answer is YES!
I'm a Republican Christian, my answer is NO!

 
Hunter. You clearly don't know what a Christian is or you would know that theres no such thing as a Christian democrat. Real Christians can NOT support those who promote homosexuality and killing babies. POWDERMAN. 

[powderman]

DDZ. Good post Sir. POWDERMAN. 

[ironglow]

Back to the original subject: Should Christians support Obama? No. NO ONE with even the slightest smattering of intelligence should support Obama, Christian, Jew atheist or otherwise.

I understand your view, but the fact is that many smart people of many religious stripes do support President Obama.

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   YT;
   Do their stripes run horizontal ..or vertical..Just asking...
 
   

[saddlebum]

Back to the original subject: Should Christians support Obama? No. NO ONE with even the slightest smattering of intelligence should support Obama, Christian, Jew atheist or otherwise.

I understand your view, but the fact is that many smart people of many religious stripes do support President Obama.

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   YT;
   Do their stripes run horizontal ..or vertical..Just asking...
 
 

Thats a nice picture of the Democratic National Committee, ironglow!..............

[saddlebum]

Pictures of Contrast.

[ironglow]

Back to the original subject: Should Christians support Obama? No. NO ONE with even the slightest smattering of intelligence should support Obama, Christian, Jew atheist or otherwise.

I understand your view, but the fact is that many smart people of many religious stripes do support President Obama.

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   YT;
   Do their stripes run horizontal ..or vertical..Just asking...
 
 

Thats a nice picture of the Democratic National Committee, ironglow!..............

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  Saddlebum;
  They're just looking for their food stamps, welfare checks, "earned income tax credit"...and the voting privileges the Democrats have promised them..
   Below; caption doesn't explain whether these guys are lined up for their, food stamps, voting booth or socialist provided brothel..

[saddlebum]

ironglow,
Actually, I heard they have changed the name of 'food stamps' to 'Obama Stash'. I've seen people on TV standing in line on the street and saying, "I'm here to get some of Obama's Stash". They even put his picture on them so everyone would know, with out a doubt, that he is responsible. He looks pretty 'cool' too. Like he just came from a late night talk show "slow jam".
 For me personally, I think it's an appropriate tribute.

[ironglow]

ironglow,
Actually, I heard they have changed the name of 'food stamps' to 'Obama Stash'. I've seen people on TV standing in line on the street and saying, "I'm here to get some of Obama's Stash". They even put his picture on them so everyone would know, with out a doubt, that he is responsible. He looks pretty 'cool' too. Like he just came from a late night talk show "slow jam".
 For me personally, I think it's an appropriate tribute.

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   As  with all liberal/socialists..He is such a generous man...with our money..  Here's a 26 second testimony:
 
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

[saddlebum]

That was posted on youtube in Oct. '08. Be nice to find her and interview her now.

[yellowtail3]

This McNaughton fellow's mixture of fawning religious piety & political mythology is rich. I'd like to have seen his spin & idealization of this actual event - how would he characterize it?

[saddlebum]

We already know your anti-Christian, yellowtail. So why do you even jump on a Christian themed thread. Just trolling perhaps? All you've done on this thread is bash individuals and never answer to the the topics question and keep going off topic to hate on someone. Maybe you could find another outlet for your hatred. Maybe drag yourself away from the computer, go outside and take some new pictures of yourself holding a gun, like your hunting, for your avatar. We miss the entertaining pictures you used to post of yourself. As far as your claim of "rightwing mythology", feel free to start your own thread on the subject. Something else for me to ignore.........................