Allen West v. Muslim

[cwlongshot]

http://www.conservativevideos.com/2012/04/muslim-plant-gets-owned-by-allen-west-at-public-forum/

Good stuff...

CW

[blind ear]

Bomb them until all that sand is a sheet of glass. ear

[ppine]

Show me the 78-81 senators that West says are "card-carryiing Communists."  This is crazy talk.  There are a lot more Muslims in the world than Christians.  We had better learn how to deal with them.
 
From the comments- Civil War in America is coming?  We are becoming Communist?

[yellowtail3]

Show me the 78-81 senators that West says are "card-carryiing Communists."  This is crazy talk.  There are a lot more Muslims in the world than Christians.  We had better learn how to deal with them.
 
From the comments- Civil War in America is coming?  We are becoming Communist?

Of course it is crazy talk... West is like that.
On # Muslims in the world.... I think there are more Christians than Muslims (roughly 2billion vs 1.5 billion) but yeah, we should work on getting along. That won't appeal to ideologues who'd rather win.

[nomosendero]

Show me the 78-81 senators that West says are "card-carryiing Communists."  This is crazy talk.  There are a lot more Muslims in the world than Christians.  We had better learn how to deal with them.
 
From the comments- Civil War in America is coming?  We are becoming Communist?

Well, here is about 70 of them, don't know that it would be necessary to find 8 more.
 
http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/gov_philosophy/dsa_members.htm   
 
yea, crazy!!     

[ppine]

Nomo,
I hardly consider your post as proof of your hypothesis.

[Cuts Crooked]

Nomo,
I hardly consider your post as proof of your hypothesis.

I do!!!!!!!

[Doublebass73]

Nomo,
I hardly consider your post as proof of your hypothesis.

I do!!!!!!!

X2

There a quite a few from Massachusetts on that list. 'nuff said.

[nomosendero]

Nomo,
I hardly consider your post as proof of your hypothesis.

You can't, since I did not offer a hypothesis.    It's a fact & they admit it!

[BUGEYE]

when Ronald Reagan became the head of the actors guild, that industry was packed with communists.  he cleaned it up, but it's returned to its old self.
and hollywood is who communist congress-people turn to for advice and money.

[gypsyman]

Maybe West just likes to call a duck, a duck. Anybody that pushes gun control,govt. health care, control the banks and money, business's, weather you want to call them a communist or not, is one. And, just maybe, because he's been overseas and knows what goes on in the ME country's, doesn't like what he's seen over there, and doesn't want it to happen here. Sometime's the truth hurts. Kinda like telling a friend, that his wife is fat and ugly. Being polite in that case is the thing to do. But, when the future of a country is at stake, being blunt is necessary. gypsyman

[saddlebum]

What the heck is a hypothesis anyway? Does it look like this?   
 
Q: How many of the DSA members sit on the Judiciary Committee?
 

A: Eleven: John Conyers [Chairman of the Judiciary Committee], Tammy Baldwin, Jerrold Nadler, Luis Gutierrez, Melvin Watt, Maxine Waters, Hank Johnson, Steve Cohen, Barbara Lee, Robert Wexler, Linda Sanchez [there are 23 Democrats on the Judiciary Committee of which eleven, almost half, are now members of the DSA].

Q: Who are these members of Congress?
 

A: See the listing below

Hon. Raúl M. Grijalva (AZ-07)

Hon. Lynn Woolsey (CA-06)

Vice Chairs

Hon. Diane Watson (CA-33)

Hon. Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18)

Hon. Mazie Hirono (HI-02)

Hon. Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)

Senate Members

Hon. Bernie Sanders (VT)

House Members

Hon. Neil Abercrombie (HI-01)

Hon. Tammy Baldwin (WI-02)

Hon. Xavier Becerra (CA-31)

Hon. Madeleine Bordallo (GU-AL)

Hon. Robert Brady (PA-01)

Hon. Corrine Brown (FL-03)

Hon. Michael Capuano (MA-08)

Hon. André Carson (IN-07)

Hon. Donna Christensen (VI-AL)

Hon. Yvette Clarke (NY-11)

Hon. William “Lacy” Clay (MO-01)

Hon. Emanuel Cleaver (MO-05)

Hon. Steve Cohen (TN-09)

Hon. John Conyers (MI-14)

Hon. Elijah Cummings (MD-07)

Hon. Danny Davis (IL-07)

Hon. Peter DeFazio (OR-04)

Hon. Rosa DeLauro (CT-03)

Rep. Donna F. Edwards (MD-04)

Hon. Keith Ellison (MN-05)

Hon. Sam Farr (CA-17)

Hon. Chaka Fattah (PA-02)

Hon. Bob Filner (CA-51)

Hon. Barney Frank (MA-04)

Hon. Marcia L. Fudge (OH-11)

Hon. Alan Grayson (FL-08)

Hon. Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)

Hon. John Hall (NY-19)

Hon. Phil Hare (IL-17)

Hon. Maurice Hinchey (NY-22)

Hon. Michael Honda (CA-15)

Hon. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (IL-02)

Hon. Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30)

Hon. Hank Johnson (GA-04)

Hon. Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)

Hon. Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-13)

Hon. Barbara Lee (CA-09)

Hon. John Lewis (GA-05)

Hon. David Loebsack (IA-02)

Hon. Ben R. Lujan (NM-3)

Hon. Carolyn Maloney (NY-14)

Hon. Ed Markey (MA-07)

Hon. Jim McDermott (WA-07)

Hon. James McGovern (MA-03)

Hon. George Miller (CA-07)

Hon. Gwen Moore (WI-04)

Hon. Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)

Hon. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (DC-AL)

Hon. John Olver (MA-01)

Hon. Ed Pastor (AZ-04)

Hon. Donald Payne (NJ-10)

Hon. Chellie Pingree (ME-01)

Hon. Charles Rangel (NY-15)

Hon. Laura Richardson (CA-37)

Hon. Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34)

Hon. Bobby Rush (IL-01)

Hon. Linda Sánchez (CA-47)

Hon. Jan Schakowsky (IL-09)

Hon. José Serrano (NY-16)

Hon. Louise Slaughter (NY-28)

Hon. Pete Stark (CA-13)

Hon. Bennie Thompson (MS-02)

Hon. John Tierney (MA-06)

Hon. Nydia Velazquez (NY-12)

Hon. Maxine Waters (CA-35)

Hon. Mel Watt (NC-12)

Hon. Henry Waxman (CA-30)

Hon. Peter Welch (VT-AL)

Hon. Robert Wexler (FL-19)

[saddlebum]

Funny....I don't see self-proclaimed 'socialist' Bernie Saunders, VT, on that list....
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..TM7

7th from the top

[DDZ]

I think there are more than 78 communists. Every one of them, when sworn in swear to abide by the Constitution of the US. How many of them do that after they are in office? Maybe some of you like to call them something else, like democrats or liberals. I call them communists because that is exactly what they are.
We have become so accustomed to the socialist movement, that it has become the norm, and we see nothing wrong, because it is the norm. What we as a notion once were, has been forgotten. Now we are being overtaken by a centralized government, that is stripping us of our freedoms, and half the people in this country don't have a clue its going on.
   

[nomosendero]

Oh my, David Rodham Gergan, what a reliable source, a typical Socialist lying about others being Socialist! 
 
There is no Socialist Utopia, only stupid Socialist thinking there is a utopia.

[DDZ]

Just like in the video Biden is asked how Obama's spread the wealth idea is not Marxist. Biden laughs and askes if this is a joke. Its part of the plan to just continue to deny that there is a communist takeover happening. If its denied enough times and by enough corrupt politicians, and by the government run media it must not be true.

[saddlebum]

I think there are more than 78 communists. Every one of them, when sworn in swear to abide by the Constitution of the US. How many of them do that after they are in office? Maybe some of you like to call them something else, like democrats or liberals. I call them communists because that is exactly what they are.
We have become so accustomed to the socialist movement, that it has become the norm, and we see nothing wrong, because it is the norm. What we as a notion once were, has been forgotten. Now we are being overtaken by a centralized government, that is stripping us of our freedoms, and half the people in this country don't have a clue its going on.
   

It's hard to get my mind wrapped around the fact that everything you posted is true. I've known it for some time, but it never ceases to shock me that Americans are letting it happen. Even unknowingly helping, in some cases, because people don't know any better. I have pretty much come to the conculsion that America, (speaking generally, as a whole), is too stupid to survive. The people have been too propagandized, don't seem to care unless it appears on their favorite TV show, un-believably gullable or actually support the overthrow of America by communists. They have been infiltrating schools, politics and pop culture for so long that, like you posted, it has become normal to those that have not been paying attention. Which accounts for at least half of the population. 20 or 30 years ago, our reality today would sound like a science fiction novel back then. But here we are....................
 
I'm not getting used to the idea that real patriotic Americans are becoming the outcasts and considered the fringe element in this country instead of the anti-American communists.

[BUGEYE]

If you don't do everything in your power to replace hussein and the liberals in congress, you are indeed inviting communism.

[nw_hunter]

If you don't do everything in your power to replace hussein and the liberals in congress, you are indeed inviting communism.

I agree, but would make a slight change to your post
If we don't do everything in our power to replace people like Obama, Romney, all the Liberal and Fascists in Congress and replace them with people who only follow the Constitution, we are indeed inviting a ruling class to destroy our REPUBLIC.

[ppine]

TM7 has the facts right regarding Gergen.  You cannot summarily discount a guy with his record of experience.  By the way, where do you folks get your information?  Fox News is only your starting point.  Please share with us so we can hear where you true Patriots get your info.

[nomosendero]

Oh my, David Rodham Gergan, what a reliable source, a typical Socialist lying about others being Socialist! 
 
There is no Socialist Utopia, only stupid Socialist thinking there is a utopia.

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Roughing up and shooting the messenger and firing a shoot over his head doesn't make the message go away. BTW, I think its Richmond, not Rodham...you're sounding antisemitc, too.  I guess Gergen was the resident socialists for 3 republican presidents:
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Gergen began his federal career in the Nixon administration in 1971. Gergen has served four presidents including Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. Gergen joined the Nixon White House in 1971, as a staff assistant on the speech writing team, a group that included Pat Buchanan, Ben Stein, and William Safire. Two years later, he took over as the director. Gergen went on to become the Director of Communications for President Gerald Ford and President Ronald Reagan, a counselor on domestic and foreign affairs for President Bill Clinton and his secretary of state, Warren Christopher, and an adviser to the 1980 George H.W. Bush presidential campaign. Despite his long-standing association with Republicans, Gergen has stated that he is actually an independent.^[8][9]
 
 
Gergen knows what he's talking about most of the time....knows actual history, and usually doesn't re-write it.  That the Republican Party once represented justice and fair dealings has given way to uncompromising roughing up the opposition and taking a potshots, which West is a specialist; and is one reason why America is foundering. Guys like West have little sense of history or facts, except when trying to demonizing moosilimbs, and is an example of a radical obstructionist. Like I said he probably doesn't even know or care that Reagen also supported the 'Millionaires Tax' ( like Buffet) in addition to the Earned Income Credit....Would iconic Reagen be crucified today by the Allen West of the world...?
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....TM7

Never said that Gergen had not done anything, he did quite alot and not all bad by any means.
But alas he has become VERY Liberal in his later years & yes a Socialist Demoncrap at heart. Like McCain & others, he has become soft & has been bought. If you want to hear someone suckup to Obummer, just turn to CNN after an Obummer appearance & hear Gergen make Chris Matthews type suckup statements. Blasting him, naw just saying what he has become & has ZERO credibility.

Nobody said Reagan was perfect, just much better than what we have today, he made several
other mistakes too, but got alot right.
 
"would iconic Reagan be crucified today by the Allen Wests of the world ? " NOPE   

[nomosendero]

NS...well, you wrote right here:
Oh my, David Rodham Gergan, what a reliable source, a typical Socialist lying about others being Socialist! 
 
There is no Socialist Utopia, only stupid Socialist thinking there is a utopia.

Implying, suggesting, or insisting that Gergen is a "stupid socialist" in your words, but the facts are he happened to be part of the GOP-Reagen think tank.  This is the kind of rhetoric we expect from hired guns like West, roughing up some body and then fire a shot over their head and running off to escape analysis and facts....The facts are that once upon a time the GOP were part of  a 'fair and just' practice of cooperation among Congressmen on behalf of the American people...Unfortunately, the Tea Party is a re-wrapped radical faction of the GOP that will negate negotiation and compromise at all costs, usually employing perjorative charges of  'socialism' this and that; when all along  they even refuse to recognize the GOP's own history.. No wonder Ron Paul distanced himself from this group....
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So, both parties have had a history of doing things 'socially' for the benefit of the American People....this is not a crime as the TP and other radicals would have you believe. Today socially oriented programs are to be sacrificed for DoD and GWOT ambitions---this is a crime, imo....Mr West is just an example of this radical faction...and a very crude and rude one at that..
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.TM7

Like I said, Reagan made some mistakes, but did great good.
 
And again, what Gergen was is not as important as what he is. McCain was a war hero too, but a suck Lib now, as is Gergen & we all know that.
 
But when you cut to the chase with West & the real reason that Libs hate & fear West is simply this. Libs loathe ANY Black who does not except the Gov. Plantation and resultant voting block the the White Libs have laid out for them. They greatly fear a Black Independent thinker & even more so a Conservative who might also influence others to leave the Plantation. That's why West is called "dangerous" & Libs will try very hard to silence him before his next election, count on it.

[Nuke41]

 Saying the Muslims are guilty of everything is just as flawed logically as saying they are guilty of nothing.

[nomosendero]

NS....Gergen is the same. McCain is the same...You've changed...  West is a radical and hired gun..his assignemnet is to run roughshod on any opposition...not really a thinker and he gets so-called conservatives wound up so they easily pop! Heck they're already wound up tight as it gets. ...West is just a TP wrapped radical idealogue employed by the elite for empowering them more and advancing their agenda...that and promoting GWOT..all of which is leaving The People far behind in perpetual serfdom..
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There is nothing wrong with the governmnet thinking in terms of society's fairness, benefit and justice, as Gergen and Reagen pointed out; despite the radical musings of West and other polarizers saying otherwise.
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...TM7

Liberal, yes
http://newsbusters.org/people/david-gergen?page=1
 
 
You say I have changed when you didn't know me before, very strange & impossible to know! 

"There is nothing wrong with the Government thinking in terms of Society's fairness, benefit & justice." There's our fundamental difference, which may be why you have trouble spotting some Liberals, some are to the right of you.
Everybody getting their fair share, yea I just heard him say it again on the tube. 

[nomosendero]

So I see.  That Gergen, who worked for 3 GOP presidents, Reagan that created Earned Income Credit and Millionaires Tax, or I don't hold your radical views too closely, and maybe want some co-operation between the two Partys instead of burning and barricading the village, want to make nice with the rest of the world for a change, think the Gov should have a positive roll in the affairs of the American people and society beyond just war making and spying.....makes he and I the dreaded 'socialist' ...Interesting scheme of things!....I use to call stuff and viewpoints like this self-styled or so-called conservatisms, but think I will call it fake conservatism because it is really unproductive, negates alot of our Founders views and charters, and really just promotes Fascism and disintergration of society..much like hero West does with his roughshod techniques and name calling...really falling right into the hands of the elite Oligarchy owning the system...Always amazes me how they can get people to identify with their elite agenda, against their own better interests.. 
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...TM7

How a Progressive OWS type labels it has no relevance, they are clueless.
 
Naw, not interested in an elite agenda, I already stated why you fear West & no doubt true.

[SwampThing762]

nomosendero,

Excellent post, sir.    Keep spreading the true word.  Muslims and liberals cannot withstand the light of truth.

ST762