Couple chgd for allowing 15 yr old daughter to have sex with 21 yr old.

[powderman]

http://www.wave3.com/story/18577531/parents-charged-for-allowing-daughter-15-to-have-sex-with-21-year-old
 
 
 
They invited him to live with her in their house, even gave em condoms. Another example of liberals without God in their lives. POWDERMAN. 

[r29l20]

That's just sad and wrong.

[SHOOTALL]

It might be wrong but in reality what would have happened ? the girl run off ? In many places the school will give condoms to kids as young as 12 . So the school can do it but the parents can't. I have no idea of the circumstances but it may have been better to keep the girl at home where she could have her parents there. The parents may be arwful or they may have been trying to protect their daughter . It does show how low our country is going.

[Sourdough]

Friends in Florida had a daughter that fell for an older man.  Parents suspected they were having sex, so they at least gave her the device to protect herself.  Mean time the Mom went searching for this guy on the net.  Daughter and older boy friend decided to get married.  Mon knew if they objected daughter would run off and marry him anyway.  Mom found what she was looking for on the net.  Guy was a sex offender, and part of his probation was that he have no contact with any women under the age of 21.  Daughter was 19.  So everyone met at the court house the day of the wedding.  Mom, Dad, Sister, Grandpa & Grandma, and a bunch of his friends.  Mom had already made contact with the Judge and showed him the court documents she had found.  Judge looked into the matter himself, so he was prepared when he came into the room.  The judge walked up to the couple and made some off the wall comment about them having sex.  The man did not say a thing, but the young woman said something to the affect, "Yes and he's great at it".  Judge had the bailiff arrest the man and haul him off to jail.  Then told the shocked girl, about his probation.  He told the young woman he always checked out the people that come to get married by the court instead of having a church wedding.  Got Mom off the hook.  Mean time Grandpa is going Yes, Yes, Yes, with the appropiate hand gestures in the back of the court room.  Grandpa and Mom hugged, then escorted crying young woman back home.  Paroll violator will not be out for a long time.   

[SHOOTALL]

Friends in Florida had a daughter that fell for an older man.  Parents suspected they were having sex, so they at least gave her the device to protect herself.  Mean time the Mom went searching for this guy on the net.  Daughter and older boy friend decided to get married.  Mon knew if they objected daughter would run off and marry him anyway.  Mom found what she was looking for on the net.  Guy was a sex offender, and part of his probation was that he have no contact with any women under the age of 21.  Daughter was 19.  So everyone met at the court house the day of the wedding.  Mom, Dad, Sister, Grandpa & Grandma, and a bunch of his friends.  Mom had already made contact with the Judge and showed him the court documents she had found.  Judge looked into the matter himself, so he was prepared when he came into the room.  The judge walked up to the couple and made some off the wall comment about them having sex.  The man did not say a thing, but the young woman said something to the affect, "Yes and he's great at it".  Judge had the bailiff arrest the man and haul him off to jail.  Then told the shocked girl, about his probation.  Mean time Grandpa is going Yes, Yes, Yes, with the appropiate hand gestures.  Grandpa and Mom huged, then escorted young woman back home.

don't ya love it when a plan comes togather !    but some parents don't have a good option .

[r29l20]

It might be wrong but in reality what would have happened ? the girl run off ? In many places the school will give condoms to kids as young as 12 . So the school can do it but the parents can't. I have no idea of the circumstances but it may have been better to keep the girl at home where she could have her parents there. The parents may be arwful or they may have been trying to protect their daughter . It does show how low our country is going.

The problem is the guy is 21.

[r29l20]

If the girl won't admit it, they won't do a thing about it. Trust me I know.

[SHOOTALL]

I'm sorry but if my daughter was having sex before marriage the age of the guy would not matter . Yes in the eyes of the law it does. The problem is the parents lost control and may have been doing damage control or maybe didn't care . That said I had a third cousin marry a 14 year old he was 17 I think,  The parents were OK with it as was the state (Va) . And she was not pregant .
Something else might be going on in this case .

[williamlayton]

I have known a lot of girls to marry at 16.
They are not causing a problem----as for morals---cast the first stone.
Blessings

[Cuts Crooked]

My son, by my first wife, got married when he was 16. She was the same age. They've been married for almost twenty years now.

[R.W.Dale]

My grandparents were married when my grandmother was 14 years old and my grandfather was 20. In 1934 I might add

A more moral and God fearing couple you'd never meet.

The Bible says nothing about marrying age tables. Don't confuse your prejudices based on society norms with sound scriptural adherence.

[SwampThing762]

My grandparents were married when my grandmother was 14 years old and my grandfather was 20. In 1934 I might add

A more moral and God fearing couple you'd never meet.

The Bible says nothing about marrying age tables. Don't confuse your prejudices based on society norms with sound scriptural adherence.

Yet there is just something fundamentally wrong with a 21 year old having sex with a fifteen year old -- morally and legally.  In Florida, it is called statutory rape.     I think it is morally wrong, the legality notwithstanding. 

ST762

[Matt]

My grandparents were married when my grandmother was 14 years old and my grandfather was 20. In 1934 I might add

A more moral and God fearing couple you'd never meet.

The Bible says nothing about marrying age tables. Don't confuse your prejudices based on society norms with sound scriptural adherence.

THANK YOU!!!!
I wish people WOULD STOP PUSHING THEIR IDEA OF MORALS AND VALUES ON THE REST OF US....
I have many friends who's mothers are 10 -15 years younger than their father. Age is nothing but a number, as an example in less than one month I will turn 40, Heather will turn 28 2 months after that. We have been together for going on 8 years now. She was 20 when we met and I was 32. I guess that makes me a bad person huh.. I mean after all I was 22 when she turned 10...


Matt

[hillbill]

what they are talking about is, the guy is a crimanal and disregarding his parole requirements.or thats what SD  was talkin bout
 

[powderman]

MATT. Thats great, but Heather was an adult, not a 15 year old child. By doing what they did the parents too are guilty of a crime, and in many states it is a crime. I won't even get into the moral aspect of sex between unmarried people but God has a word for it. THe parents would be guilty under Gods law as well as mans. My Gdaughter married a guy 16 years older than she is and he's a good man. POWDERMAN. 

[Matt]

Charlie, so you are telling me that this case is legitimate and that the parents are bad people...?


OK, I do not know the parents so I will concede that they "might" be bad people but this story alone does not show that to me.  I hate to break it to some of you old timers but 12 and 13 year old boys and girls are having sex and have been for at least 2 decades that I know of.

Is it morally wrong? who's to say. I know I am not going to jump on that bandwagon seeing as I was 13 yrs old  my first time and the girl was 19. Was it wrong? I sure didn't think so at the time and looking back I still don't.

My oldest son who will turn 19 in 8 days was almost 18 his first time or at least that is his story and he seems to be sticking to it. Now as a parent I would have rather he waited till he was older just because of the risks involved and consequences of such. I sure as heck am not ready to be a grandparent but at the same time having been there and done that I understand.

I think communication between parent and child and a relationship built on trust, understanding and honesty with the child is all that is needed or can be expected and once the child finds themselves sexually the parent really has little say in the matter from then on.

I say they did a reasonable thing by bringing them under their roof where they could monitor what was going on. No matter how hard you try if you let your kids out of the house they will find a way to do what they want.... I did.... didn't you?

Matt

[lakota]

At what point does an age difference cease to matter? I am 6 years older than my wife. When I was 21 she would have been 16. I was 25 and she was 19 when we met.

[powderman]

Charlie, so you are telling me that this case is legitimate and that the parents are bad people...?

 
MATT. In this case, yes, I believe they are wrong to encourage sex outside of marriage and especially their 15 year old child with a grown man. It is our duty as parents to raise our children in a proper way, high morals and family values mean a lot  to me, and God will hold me accountable if I don't. Once they leave the nest they choose to do what they have been taught or choose to ignore it and do as they please, then they will have to answer for their own behaviour on judgement day, not me.
Sex outside of marriage?? Yep, I'm guilty too as I was once young and stupid but not since I've been married, 32 years btw. God wasn't all that important to me after I left the nest, yep, I had fun, or so I thought, then I started reading and listening to Gods word and became a believer. I was raised in the church but it never quite sunk in til I was older. Got to get clothes and stuff ready for the funeral home tomorrow, talk later. POWDERMAN. 

[r29l20]

never mind.

[SHOOTALL]

so two people have to meet a certian set of requiremewnts to marry , where is that listed in the Bible , ie; the age thing ? seems I remember reading where some really old kings had really young WIVE(S) .

[gypsyman]

This is one of those instances, you wish things weren't the way they were. I'm sure that the girls parents wish she wasn't involves with this guy, at this time in her life. I can't say much about the age difference, as my wife is 17 years younger that me. She was 20, and I was 37 when we started dating. (a young 36 I might add!) Hope it turns out for them. gypsyman

[SHOOTALL]

So after she reaches age of consent and goes on and marries the guy what did all the BS accomplish other than waste money . There was a teacher that had a relationship with a student . She went to court several times did time etc and married him when she could . When I was in high school there were several teachers dating /having relationships with students . Several more had one night stands . Some married others did not . I don't see the age as a moral issue , other aspects maybe . Age isbeing used to side step other issues .

[Cuts Crooked]

It does occur to me that a lot of posters here refer to a certain "pediprophet" as if he was immoral.

[powderman]

I see my posts are wasted as several of you clearly can't comprehend what I've said. Let them marry then, the age DIFFERENCE is not the problem. The parents are encouraging and promoting sin.
Yes, many years ago folks were married at an earlier age, they were raised working and matured much earlier than today, not to mention the life expectancy was much lower than today.
Cuts. Yes, the pediprophet married a 6 year old child then consumated the marriage when she turned the ripe old age of 9 years old, musta been a real exciting night for one of them. Give us an example of mohameds moral values. Gotta get dressed for the funeral home. POWDERMAN. 

[AtlLaw]

the age DIFFERENCE is not the problem. The parents are encouraging and promoting sin.

Yup, that's a pretty good summation.     My daddy always said a man should marry a woman 10 - 15 years younger then him.  Reason being that, as wimmins mature earlier then men, they also get older lookin sooner.  So a bigger age gap just makes them a better lookin couple!     He also said something about a woman with small hands but in my case I figgered that would be trying to correct a nonexistent... um... shortcoming.   
 
Whatever, my daddy was 13 years older then my mother and Kathie's father was 13 years older then her mother. 
 
Here in Jawja they raised the age of consent from 14 to 16 comparatively recently.  Like 15 - 20 years ago I think.  I don't think it has made much difference, not many prosecutions in that area... And you never see anyone prosecuted for fornication or adultery!   
 
But crime or no, no boyfriend would be living under my roof, having sex with one of my kids!     Even if that kid was 21!  They wanna play house, let them play it in their own place.  I'm not going to support it! 

[Cuts Crooked]

Cuts. Yes, the pediprophet married a 6 year old child then consumated the marriage when she turned the ripe old age of 9 years old, musta been a real exciting night for one of them. Give us an example of mohameds moral values. Gotta get dressed for the funeral home. POWDERMAN. 

Ah, you want to make it sound like I approve!

Please take note that I did NOT say I approve, in any way shape or form! I was simply taking note of the facts. Much liken my earlier remark about my sons marriage at age 16, I did not say I approved......but I didn't have much choice either. (note: they did not get married because they "had too" either)

[powderman]

But crime or no, no boyfriend would be living under my roof, having sex with one of my kids!   " src="http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/Smileys/default/angry.gif">  Even if that kid was 21!  They wanna play house, let them play it in their own place.  I'm not going to support it! 

 
RICHARD. My feelings exactly, went through  that with one of the boys coming back with a GF. I told them that what they do is their business and between them and God, but when I allow it in my house their sin becomes my sin and I won't have it. They moved back out.
CUTS. I did not mean it the way you took it, no offense intended Sir. A lot on my mind rt now. POWDERMAN. 

[BBF]

It does occur to me that a lot of posters here refer to a certain "pediprophet" as if he was immoral.

My thinking exactly !!
 
Different Time, different culture. IMO Don't apply your idea of morality on different circumstances.
 
As to the original story, I would agree that this is a better solution then having the affair and possibly a bunch of other liasons done in secret.

[nw_hunter]

the age DIFFERENCE is not the problem. The parents are encouraging and promoting sin.

Yup, that's a pretty good summation.     My daddy always said a man should marry a woman 10 - 15 years younger then him.  Reason being that, as wimmins mature earlier then men, they also get older lookin sooner.  So a bigger age gap just makes them a better lookin couple!     He also said something about a woman with small hands but in my case I figgered that would be trying to correct a nonexistent... um... shortcoming.   
 
Whatever, my daddy was 13 years older then my mother and Kathie's father was 13 years older then her mother. 
 
Here in Jawja they raised the age of consent from 14 to 16 comparatively recently.  Like 15 - 20 years ago I think.  I don't think it has made much difference, not many prosecutions in that area... And you never see anyone prosecuted for fornication or adultery!   
 
But crime or no, no boyfriend would be living under my roof, having sex with one of my kids!     Even if that kid was 21!  They wanna play house, let them play it in their own place.  I'm not going to support it! 

Got to go along with Richard on this one.......If they want to play house, go find one to play in.They are going to respect my wife and me, and sleeping together under my roof is dang sure not the direction to try and go.Some of these sex offender laws today are designed to control the populace IMO! Should a normal 18 yr. old boy having sex with a 16 yr old girl be called a child molester?Under today's laws they can be lumped into the same category as one! Is this right? On the Moral issue..........Well! As a Christian, I'm not suppose to judge others.Lord knows I have enough to answer for on that day!

[jimster]

Well without getting into morals, religion, or anything like that, seems it just boils down to there was a law broken, maybe two laws if you count the parents.  That's probably the only thing that even matters at the end of the day. They won't be paying fines or spending time in jail because of religion or morals, it will only be because of the laws on the books. 
Now to think of it,  this guy was 6 years older than the gal, I'm 8 years older than my wife.  It doesn't sound too bad now that I'm going on 56 and nobody notices much, but if I would have tried dating my wife when I was 23 years old, my father-in-law would have just killed me back then.       Hey, that might be against the law too.  Parents just can't win can they, no wonder they get grey hair.  Damed if they do, damned if they don't.