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Offline P.A. Myers

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Why a job has no incentive.
« on: June 14, 2012, 06:57:18 AM »

You're probably familiar with the food stamp program which grew from $35 billion in 2008 to $75 billion last year. But did you know that getting food stamps also makes you eligible for a free government cell phone? A program called Lifeline provides free phones and free monthly minutes to anyone on food stamps, WIC, Medicaid, Head Start, and several other government programs. And just like food stamps, Lifeline (aka "phone stamps") has been growing by leaps and bounds since 2008, at significant cost to taxpayers.
The rapid growth of the program has continued since then. In 2011, the FCC estimated the cost (page 153) of the program would be $2.1 billion and said it would reach $3.3 billion by 2014 absent major reforms. The FCC also found that part of the problem with the program was rampant fraud:
The ongoing oversight has revealed that a substantial number of subscribers are receiving duplicative Lifeline support, which includes individuals receiving two or more Lifeline benefits from ETCs as well as two or more individuals in a household receiving benefits from multiple ETCs.
How bad is the fraud? A survey conducted by the FCC across 17 states and territories found that, on average, 9% of phone recipients were ineligible (page 243). In some states like Alabama, New Hampshire, and West Virginia, the ineligibility rate was 18-19%. And all of that is based on a survey to which 27% of users refused to respond to questions.
And the freebies won't end with basic calling service. As part of the effort to extend broadband, the FCC has been discussing making broadband service part of the Lifeline program. In other words, taxpayers could soon be paying for smartphone features on these free government phones.

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Add this to cash from states and fed, free unlimited medical, the foodstamp to crack program, free food etc., etc, etc.  A person would be crazy to work.
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2012, 11:17:00 PM »
Ill tell you when I see things like this I wonder why I am working two jobs full time and driving myself into the ground.  I mean whats the point when I can just be a leech and get it for free?

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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2012, 12:06:38 AM »
  I am retired @ 75, but still do a part time job as well as charitable works around the area.  The wife and I are doing fine, not wealthy, but at least comfortable for now. 
  About a week ago i brought in our mail and handed it to my wife, who opened it.  Imagine our surprise when she reads a letter from our county saying "you are eligible for food stamps'.  I couldn't speak fast enough to tell her to trash that letter... she beat me to it !
  I have no problem helping those in real need..but I am not eager to pay for cigarettes, beer, pot, booze and a thousand dollars in tattoos across some parasite's butt !
   ...I know how you feel..
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2012, 12:26:34 AM »
Just curious. The county does not control or issue food stamps, that is through the state. Second, how would the county determine that you are eligible? Third, you have to apply for food stamps it is not just offered.
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2012, 03:07:49 AM »
  If I still had the letter, I would give you more detail, but as I said it was immediately trashed.  I wouldn't know where the various handouts originate, but my wife said it was from the county..she could have mispoke, but we certainly did not apply for any such thing.
  This "food stamp' president has changed things where they pursue folks, trying to get them to take all the freebees they can get to complete his Marxist Utopia..  I wouldn't be surprised if he were pressuring counties in blue states to reach for as much dependency as possible..
 
  BTW:  I was told the other day that NY doesn't issue food stamps anymorer, but some king of credit card + 50 gallons of gas a month and a free cell phone.. disgusting..
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2012, 03:42:22 AM »
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Ill tell you when I see things like this I wonder why I am working two jobs full time and driving myself into the ground.  I mean whats the point when I can just be a leech and get it for free?
You do it because your a true American, there are very few left in these entitlement days, the number of people struggling to get by through hard work are now less than the ones that sleep till noon and party at night and have things given to them.  I know there are people out there that need help, no problem with that, but there are now many that choose to not work hard like you do, they are a huge voting block for the current progressive socialists. 
My hat goes off to people like you, you hold it all up, the state, the feds, the unions, and your hard earned tax money goes to electing this president as he uses it for campaign purposes.  Still, you plug away.
If it's any consolation, I wonder the same thing you do...why do we do it.  Guess we were raised that way. 

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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2012, 06:21:32 AM »
The letter to ironglow informed him of his eligibility. He will still have to apply.
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2012, 09:19:14 AM »
The letter to ironglow informed him of his eligibility. He will still have to apply.

 
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