Using the Speer #1835 bullet, I'm loading 35.0 grs H335 under it in a 30-30. Seems to be one of those loads that works great in just about anything you stick in. I use the load in rifles and pistols alike and it's extremely accurate. Muzzle blast from a 10" or 14" barrel is extreme and I would suggest not shooting it in dry grass. Otherwise, makes for a real good varmint round from a lever gun. Recoil is next to nothing and is suitable for the very young that want to shoot too.