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Offline BCarp

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Beveled bullet bases
« on: June 19, 2012, 07:25:55 AM »
I'm thinking of trying some of these in some BP .45-70 loads for white-tailed deer hunting:
 
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/345000/goex-black-dawge-bullets-45-caliber-458-diameter-350-grain-lead-flat-nose-box-of-50
 
Of course, deer hunting ranges are so short compared to long-range target shooting, but I read somewhere that bullets with beveled bases - for ease of seating - suffer in the accuracy department compared with flat-based bullets.  Is that really the case?
 
BTW, I use dry wool felt wads between the bullet and powder in my BP cartridges....
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Re: Beveled bullet bases
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2012, 08:04:16 AM »
A couple of things to think about.
 The worst that might come about with the beveled bases is gas cutting and leading.
Second thing, if the lube on the bullets isn't a blackpowder lube, fouling may be a rather big issue.
You might be able to bypass both those problems with your felt wad, especially if it is a lubed wad.
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Re: Beveled bullet bases
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2012, 08:47:34 AM »
Quote from: Ranch13 on June 19, 2012, 08:04:16 AM
A couple of things to think about.
 The worst that might come about with the beveled bases is gas cutting and leading.
Second thing, if the lube on the bullets isn't a blackpowder lube, fouling may be a rather big issue.
You might be able to bypass both those problems with your felt wad, especially if it is a lubed wad.

Those bullets I'm considering have two grooves lubed with SPG blackpowder lube. It's not a lot, but then again I have only a 24" bbl on my .45-70.
 
I'm hoping the wads will prevent any damage to the bullet bases.  I use dry wads instead of lubed, to prevent fouling the powder if the rounds don't get shot for awhile.  Maybe that's not a real problem...?
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Re: Beveled bullet bases
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2012, 09:10:40 AM »
I use lubed felt wads regularly in paper patched rounds, but I do sandwich the felt between two thin wads to protect the paper and the powder. Shooting a greaser like you are comtemplating you could just punch some wax paper wads to put between the felt and the powder if you lubed them. Just be sure that the bullet doesn't "compress" the lubed felt wad or the ooze from that wad might make a gooshy mess...
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Re: Beveled bullet bases
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2012, 10:23:14 AM »
Save you a lot of trouble.  Use a flat base flat nose bullet.  If your BP loads for target are good, why change.  If you are using black powder for a propellant, use what you know works.
 
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Re: Beveled bullet bases
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2012, 11:30:41 AM »
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I read somewhere that bullets with beveled bases - for ease of seating - suffer in the accuracy department compared with flat-based bullets.  Is that really the case?
I shoot the 439186 bevel base 200-500m and 1000yds in a 43 Spanish Rolling Block with black powder.  Find it to be a quite accurate bullet.  Maybe too because I'm a big fan of felt wads to protect the bases  ;D

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Re: Beveled bullet bases
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2012, 11:40:53 AM »
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I read somewhere that bullets with beveled bases - for ease of seating - suffer in the accuracy department compared with flat-based bullets.  Is that really the case?
I shoot the 439186 bevel base 200-500m and 1000yds in a 43 Spanish Rolling Block with black powder.  Find it to be a quite accurate bullet.  Maybe too because I'm a big fan of felt wads to protect the bases  ;D



John, do you use the lubed felt wads (aka 'wonder wads') or the non-lubed dry version?
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Re: Beveled bullet bases
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2012, 01:52:59 PM »
BCarp - dry felt wads for all my center fire BPCR reload calibers.  When I shoot C&B, the I use lubed wads
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