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White House Invokes Executive Privilege on ‘Fast and Furious’ Documents      gty eric holder obama thg 120620 wblog White House Invokes Executive Privilege on Fast and Furious Documents Image credit: Paul J. Richards/AFP/Getty Images The White House has invoked executive privilege over documents at the center of the stand-off between Attorney General Eric Holder and Rep. Darrell Issa, the Republican chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee investigating the Justice Department’s “Fast and Furious” program.
“The President has asserted executive privilege over the relevant post-February 4, 2011, documents,” deputy attorney general James Cole wrote Issa this morning.
“We regret that we have arrived at this point, after the many steps we have taken to address the Committee’s concerns and to accommodate the Committee’s legitimate oversight interests regarding Operation Fast and Furious.”
The move comes ahead of an expected committee vote on whether to put Holder in contempt of Congress for refusing to turn over the documents. It is the first time President Obama has asserted executive privilege in a dispute with Congress.
In a letter Tuesday to President Obama, Holder formally requested presidential intervention, citing “significant, damaging consequences” in releasing the documents and “separation of powers concerns.”
The documents “were not generated in the the course of the conduct of Fast and Furious. Instead, they were created after the investigative tactics at issue in that operation had terminated and in the course of the Department’s deliberative process concerning how to respond to congressional and related media inquiries into that operation,” he wrote.
Holder has said the Department has already provided “extraordinary” access to documents and administration officials to answer questions about the incident.
Still, Issa and Republicans on the committee believe the as yet undisclosed information is critical to understanding how the administration responded to the unfolding scandal surrounding program that allegedly allowed U.S. weapons to cross the border into Mexico in order to track gun runners.  One of the weapons was later found to be used in the shooting death of a U.S. border patrol agent.
Republican committee members say the documents in question could shed light on whether officials participated in a cover up.
“Our purpose has never been to hold the attorney general in contempt. Our purpose has always been to get the information the committee needs to complete its work, that it is not only entitled to but obligated to do,” Rep. Issa said today during a committee hearing.
“More than eight months after a subpoena, and clearly after the question of executive privilege could have and should have been asserted, this untimely assertion by the Justice Department falls short of any reason to delay today’s proceedings,” he said.
Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, who has been leading a Senate investigation into Fast and Furious, said Obama’s move raises “monumental questions.”
“How can the President assert executive privilege if there was no White House involvement?  How can the President exert executive privilege over documents he’s supposedly never seen?  Is something very big being hidden to go to this extreme?” he said in a statement.
Obama administration officials say the assertion of privilege over non-presidential executive branch communications is not unprecedented.
President Bill Clinton used executive privilege 14 times and President George W. Bush invoked it six times, officials said, including in cases that involved documents similar to those sought in the Fast and Furious congressional inquiry.
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The problem is that 'executive privilege' only extends to communication in the White House itself or directly with the POTUS. This invocation contradicts Eric Withholder's sworn testimony that the White House was not involved.

Oh, what a tangled web we weave.....................

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Obummer and holder should share a jail cell. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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Just goes to show you that Obama knew from the get-go on this matter.     However, libs will likely still support the criminal-in-chief Obama.
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  Obummer locks away documents he has supposedly NEVER SEEN..  Now why would a guy do that...I mean, if he has never seen them ..they may just work in his favor....of course, if he happened to be in on the plan to destroy our second amendment..well..
   Then of course this imperial president is also blocking the tracing of "leakers" who are betraying their oaths as well as the American people...now why would he do that ? After all, this kind of traitorous action is exactly why Pfc Bradley Manning is cooling his heels in Leavenworth right now... and rightly so.  Somebody high up in the Obamanation administration should be in Leavenworth along with Pfc Bradley Manning.
 
  Executive order to make illegals legal..Czars appointed to circumvent congress ..and congress lets them do it !
 
   When does the "Bier Hall Putsch" begin ?
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Things like this makes the obamaites prouder of their choice. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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The whole thing smacks of CORRUPTION, which I despise, no matter which side of the aisle it's coming from.


I say put the entire bunch in jail, and go ahead and toss Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson in as well, just because they're despicable gun haters and I don't like 'em.  And no, i'm not racist, I just hate their beliefs is all.
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Holy Cow..!!  This is just like Bush-Cheney testifying to the 911 whitewash Commission in locked session sans FOIA....sheeesszzz, what's it all coming to..?
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  Not quite;
   With the 9/11 thing, we all know where the weapons came from, who operated the weapons and why they did it (they bragged about it).
   Unlike fast & furious, that whole incident has been investigated by democrats, Republicans and LEOs of all stripes.. We know all the pertinent facts..
   Except for a few tinfoil hatters, who really believe they have privileged, alien-installed... special information.
     
    It must be true..that's what the voices in their heads tell them !!   ...Or is that just echoes off the tinfoil ?
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Holy Cow..!!  This is just like Bush-Cheney testifying to the 911 whitewash Commission in locked session sans FOIA....sheeesszzz, what's it all coming to..?
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They plan to run the clock out. They will invent a way to pardon themselves from a position of having not done anything wrong. of course it was much much worse when W did it cause they are evil Republicans bent on destruction. The Democrats just want to make the world a safer place for the children.
 
I hear they have commissioned a kinder, gentler, machine gun. ;) It will be deployed only if the Evil Republicans are defeated. ::)
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Holy Cow..!!  This is just like Bush-Cheney testifying to the 911 whitewash Commission in locked session sans FOIA....sheeesszzz, what's it all coming to..?
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They plan to run the clock out. They will invent a way to pardon themselves from a position of having not done anything wrong. of course it was much much worse when W did it cause they are evil Republicans bent on destruction. The Democrats just want to make the world a safer place for the children.
 
I hear they have commissioned a kinder, gentler, machine gun. ;) It will be deployed only if the Evil Republicans are defeated. ::)
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  Come on EQ:
 
  Doncha know.. Always.."it's for the children"..
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Irrespective, Saw this one coming!

There is only one reason for O'boy to claim executive privilege......the rot starts at the top!
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How unusual for a bunch of right-wingers to go after the first black President and first black Attorney General...who could have predicted that one?
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Obie    must    be   trying   to   do   as    much   damage    as   he   can   before   November.   God    help   us   if   he    get   reuped.

 
True Sir. Destroying America is his goal and he has plenty of help. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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How unusual for a bunch of right-wingers to go after the first black President and first black Attorney General...who could have predicted that one?

Oh really? And if no one "goes after" them what do you think will happen when the government "goes after" YOU?

BTW this has NOTHING to do with the color of their skin, only a moron would think otherwise. It has to do with breaking the law to point of treason.
If they are not held responsible for their actions then the law as a whole is meaningless.
Smokeless is only a passing fad!

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How unusual for a bunch of right-wingers to go after the first black President and first black Attorney General...who could have predicted that one?

Oh really? And if no one "goes after" them what do you think will happen when the government "goes after" YOU?

BTW this has NOTHING to do with the color of their skin, only a moron would think otherwise. It has to do with breaking the law to point of treason.
If they are not held responsible for their actions then the law as a whole is meaningless.

 
Agreed Sir. POWDERMAN.  ;) ;)
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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One has to wonder what part of a gun running scheme by the Justice Department is so highly secretive that it endangers national security, requiring the president to protect the American public from learning of the details.

We already KNOW what was done and how many were killed by those actions. We only need to know WHO authorized it and WHO KNEW about and let it happen.

Given the actions of the president, I would have to say that HE knows the answers and is terrified that the American people will find out.

Still, the recent action of congress of citing Eric Holder in contempt, is likely to be pretty much meaningless. Given the limited power they have to enforce their contempt proceedings and the fact that they need a U.S. Attorney for the District of Washington to enforce it........oh well. :'(
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How unusual for a bunch of right-wingers to go after the first black President and first black Attorney General...who could have predicted that one?

And how predictable that anti-American liberals would bring up race to cover those responsible for selling arms to drug cartels that end up murdering Americans.
I swear ,obama could wrap a live baby in the American flag and burn it to death .And if anyone said it was wrong for him to do such a thing the liberals would cry RACISM.
 

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Two US LEOs lost their lives with those weapons, their families and the rest of us deserve answers.

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Obummer and holder should share a jail cell. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Obummer and holder should share a jail cell. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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             ...............................................in sunny Mexico.

Where hundreds of people lost their lives to those weapons. >:(
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And the main stream media won;t really cover this story at all. They are protecting Holder and this criminal administration.
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How unusual for a bunch of right-wingers to go after the first black President and first black Attorney General...who could have predicted that one?
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  Unusual also, that these right-wingers have no problem with QUALITY black elected representatives.  Here are the REAL ..ALL-AMERICAN MEN who run on conservative principles.  Liberals can't run on principles...simply because they don't have any..
   The easy-cutout card is for you..good way to introduce your revolutionary ideas..
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And the main stream media won;t really cover this story at all. They are protecting Holder and this criminal administration.

 
YEP, and the mentally challenged liberal democrats still support their messiah. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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How unusual for a bunch of right-wingers to go after the first black President and first black Attorney General...who could have predicted that one?

Oh really? And if no one "goes after" them what do you think will happen when the government "goes after" YOU?

BTW this has NOTHING to do with the color of their skin, only a moron would think otherwise. It has to do with breaking the law to point of treason.
If they are not held responsible for their actions then the law as a whole is meaningless.
If it has nothing to do with the color of their skin , then why do you refer to the President of the United States as "O'boy"...think we all don't know what you mean by that?...easy to call people names on the internet....I doubt you would be so brave face-to-face....Plus this covert action involving gun tracing was started under your-moron in chief in 2006...
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How unusual for a bunch of right-wingers to go after the first black President and first black Attorney General...who could have predicted that one?

Oh really? And if no one "goes after" them what do you think will happen when the government "goes after" YOU?

BTW this has NOTHING to do with the color of their skin, only a moron would think otherwise. It has to do with breaking the law to point of treason.
If they are not held responsible for their actions then the law as a whole is meaningless.
If it has nothing to do with the color of their skin , then why do you refer to the President of the United States as "O'boy"...think we all don't know what you mean by that?...easy to call people names on the internet....I doubt you would be so brave face-to-face....Plus this covert action involving gun tracing was started under your-moron in chief in 2006...

 
HEH, I rest my case. POWDERMAN.  ;) ;)
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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So who's calling names now?  Oh, I forgot, only liberals are allowed to call names.
 
Anyway, you boys have got this whole thing wrong; Obama and Holder's actions have all been part of their pledge to make their administration the most open and transparent ever.  Of course they took their training from Nancy Pilosi who promised the same thing about her House.
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