Author Topic: Chariots in the red sea?? (Read 992 times)

powderman · « **on:** June 20, 2012, 05:35:38 AM »

http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/chariots-in-red-sea-irrefutable-evidence/

Long read but well worth it. He believes that this is where God drowned pharos army. POWDERMAN.

josiah712 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 20, 2012, 06:34:26 AM »

I saw a video on this awhile back, very impressive. The wheels are very unique and date to the exact time of Moses. By the grace of God, some these finds are found by the right people before they can be destroyed or vaulted by the anti-Bible hoaxers; who have all the financing and credentials, but none of the truth or integrity.

ratdog · « **Reply #2 on:** June 20, 2012, 10:09:58 AM »

it would be nice if the sea opened up and swallowed Obama.

Ex 49'er · « **Reply #3 on:** June 20, 2012, 08:04:05 PM »

Quote from: ratdog on June 20, 2012, 10:09:58 AM

it would be nice if the sea opened up and swallowed Obama.

+1

Singleshotsam · « **Reply #4 on:** June 20, 2012, 10:48:49 PM »

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it would be nice if the sea opened up and swallowed Obama.

And all those who voted for him lol.

mcbammer · « **Reply #5 on:** June 21, 2012, 02:04:41 AM »

Quote from: josiah712 on June 20, 2012, 06:34:26 AM

I saw a video on this awhile back, very impressive. The wheels are very unique and date to the exact time of Moses. By the grace of God, some these finds are found by the right people before they can be destroyed or vaulted by the anti-Bible hoaxers; who have all the financing and credentials, but none of the truth or integrity.

I agree ' when they mention there is gold to be had , the scavengers will assend .

Victor3 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 22, 2012, 12:08:45 AM »

Even though I believe the Biblical account, I find it very hard to believe (barring a miracle nearly as significant as the parting itself) that something constructed like this item could survive in such remarkable condition for thousands of years on the surface of the sea floor. And without being found before now? This isn't the Titanic, miles below the surface. Wooden shipwrecks only a few hundred years old often barely leave a signature on the ocean floor that can be detected, and the only large pieces that survive intact are cannon barrels and such.

I don't imagine that this item is anything ancient, and don't expect that any evidence proving so is forthcoming...

ironglow · « **Reply #7 on:** June 22, 2012, 12:21:02 AM »

I hope it proves out but I reserve opinion. If we get too enthusiastic and the conjecture prove wrong, we are left with "egg on our face"..and the unbelievers will smear that egg as far as they can.
One hopeful sign.. no official "bah humbug" atheist group has stepped forward to challenge the findings, perhaps they know something they would rather not stir up...

josiah712 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 22, 2012, 01:54:45 AM »

All very good points. Something else to consider: This would be an enormously expensive thing to hoax; who would invest such resources, and for what reason?

The people who have such resources, are against the Bible. And the people who are for the Bible know, that it just keeps on proving itself.

ironglow · « **Reply #9 on:** June 22, 2012, 02:28:16 AM »

Quote from: josiah712 on June 22, 2012, 01:54:45 AM

All very good points. Something else to consider: This would be an enormously expensive thing to hoax; who would invest such resources, and for what reason?

The people who have such resources, are against the Bible. And the people who are for the Bible know, that it just keeps on proving itself.

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Josiah;
I subscribe to a magazine called . Biblical Archaeology Review.. which is a publication dealing with the latest discoveries found in the Bible lands. There are two schools of thought in the field;

1) Minimalists..those who believe that the Bible is of minimal use in archaeology and cannot be relied upon.

2) Maximalists..those who firmly believe that the Bible is a history book as well as Holy Scriptures.

There used to be strong debate between the two, but in recent years the discoveries coming to light have caused the Maximalists to swell and the Minimalists to recede. Recent proofs such as the King David inscriptions, the City of David and the James "brother of Jesus" ossuary have put the minimalists into a defensive mode...and won some over to Maximalism.

josiah712 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 22, 2012, 02:34:10 AM »

Yes, I have heard much about these reports as they have been coming in, and I will say that I am delighted.

Bugflipper · « **Reply #11 on:** June 22, 2012, 05:17:28 AM »

I saw a show on it maybe 5 years ago. They were shooting video while diving. It looks like in almost 10 years they would have already done more than speculate.

josiah712 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 22, 2012, 05:58:11 AM »

I've seen a lot of things like that in archeology. I think it's because believers don't have the resources to make big waves. Once they can show what they've found to other believers, that is often the end of it.

The big guns don't want this stuff going out, unless they can spin it their way. Don't ever expect to see evidence for the Bible promoted in the text books, or on the Discovery channel.

ironglow · « **Reply #13 on:** June 22, 2012, 06:59:43 AM »

Quote from: josiah712 on June 22, 2012, 05:58:11 AM

I've seen a lot of things like that in archeology. I think it's because believers don't have the resources to make big waves. Once they can show what they've found to other believers, that is often the end of it.

The big guns don't want this stuff going out, unless they can spin it their way. Don't ever expect to see evidence for the Bible promoted in the text books, or on the Discovery channel.

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..And don't trust any "evidence" they do use..

josiah712 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 22, 2012, 07:32:11 AM »

Agreed.

I once read somewhere, that if you find something in your backyard or elsewhere, that is damaging to the evolution hoax; if you let it be known, that agents would come and confiscate your finds, and your dig. These agents usually being from the Smithsonian Institute or claiming so.

One thing is for sure; if you do a Google search on: suppressed archaeological evidence. You will have a load of reading and/or You-tube watching ahead of you.

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&q=suppressed+archaeological+evidence&oq=Suppressed+arch&aq=1&aqi=g2g-K2&aql=&gs_l=hp.1.1.0l2j0i30l2.12969.19953.0.23469.15.10.0.5.5.0.407.2172.0j6j2j1j1.10.0...0.0.KHumaLhK_CY&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=484d5447f2834e41&biw=1024&bih=572

williamlayton · « **Reply #15 on:** June 22, 2012, 08:26:19 AM »

This is not a new find--or-- a new story.
The people of this region have long claimed this to be the location of the crossing and the archeology is at least 10 years old.
Blessings

ironglow · « **Reply #16 on:** June 24, 2012, 09:13:05 AM »

Darwin's theology..called evolution..is a full=blown religion and should be treated as such as far as public school is concerned.
Same goes for the enviro-wackos...and their earth goddess named "Gaia"..

josiah712 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 24, 2012, 11:41:02 AM »

No doubt!

You tell me which one one requires blind faith and which one requires reasonable faith.

1. In the beginning, an all powerful and all knowing God, created everything including, space, time, matter, and energy.

2. In the beginning there was nothing, or a dot. Then it blew up, and over time it organized itself through a series of random accidents, into all of the ingenious design and organization that you see before you.

powderman · « **Reply #18 on:** June 24, 2012, 03:54:48 PM »

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1. In the beginning, an all powerful and all knowing God, created everything including, space, time, matter, and energy.

JOSIAH. I love articles like this, whether they are all true I can't say but I do believe the Biblical acct of the crossing of the red sea. A guy argued that the Biblical acct couldn't be true and that pharos men were actually killed by the reed sea by the Israelites when their hvy chariots mired dwn in the marshy mud. The said that was the only LOGICAL explaination. I told him that God didn't do things the easy or logical way so as to prove his divine power. By doing things the hard way, or illogical way, there could be no doubt that he is the all powerful God of Abraham, Issaac, and Jacob. POWDERMAN.

josiah712 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 25, 2012, 12:30:46 AM »

Yes, I too, remember that old Reed Sea theory. I remember one old preacher said "Praise God; He drowned the Egyptian army with only three feet of water. That's an even bigger miracle.".

Seriously though, miracles by their very nature must be something that is impossible. Bible haters are always attacking these miracles by saying that they are impossible. Some Christians think they are helping God, when they try to find reasonable explanations of how these things could occur. But they are NOT helping. If you have a reasonable explanation, then you don't have a miracle. God is not limited by gravity, or any other laws of nature. He can step in at any time.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #20 on:** June 25, 2012, 01:07:18 AM »

From what I have read, you have Saudi Arabia on one side and Eqypt on the other. Both Muslim. They may or may not allow expiditions to take place. It would only prove the Jewish lineage of Issac not Ismael is the truth. Therefore it would destroy the root basis of their religion.

powderman · « **Reply #21 on:** June 25, 2012, 02:03:26 AM »

DIXIE DUDE, JOSIAH. Good posts guys. POWDERMAN.

ironglow · « **Reply #22 on:** June 25, 2012, 02:27:41 AM »

Quote from: josiah712 on June 25, 2012, 12:30:46 AM

Yes, I too, remember that old Reed Sea theory. I remember one old preacher said "Praise God; He drowned the Egyptian army with only three feet of water. That's an even bigger miracle.".

Seriously though, miracles by their very nature must be something that is impossible. Bible haters are always attacking these miracles by saying that they are impossible. Some Christians think they are helping God, when they try to find reasonable explanations of how these things could occur. But they are NOT helping. If you have a reasonable explanation, then you don't have a miracle. God is not limited by gravity, or any other laws of nature. He can step in at any time.

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You have a valid point there DD... The Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael thing took place long before the exodus point in time. By time the exodus took place, it was quite clear that God had chosen the Isaac line as His.
Correct, the "Nova" and "history" channels try to find a natural explanation for miracles.. when they can't find such an explanation, they assume there is no explanation. They have no concept of the miraculous, that's where faith comes in.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #23 on:** June 25, 2012, 04:17:38 AM »

Same way with evolutionists. They can't explain something from nothing. They can go all the way back to the "big bang", but who created the mater from the "big bang".