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What is my mystery rifle's make?
« on: June 21, 2012, 04:15:14 AM »
What is my mystery rifle's make?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: What is my mystery rifle's make?
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2012, 04:47:59 PM »
At first glance I was going to say a winchester high wall but, with what appears to be a safety on the receiver wall
I'm stumped. And I'm guessing that the rod under the bbl is meant to be an attachment for a forend??. Frank

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Re: What is my mystery rifle's make?
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2012, 06:44:46 PM »
Yes that is the attachment for the forend, a strange cap screw through bolt.


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Re: What is my mystery rifle's make?
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2012, 12:36:42 AM »
Where is the mainspring? How does it work?
"Give me a lever long enough, and a place to stand, and I'll break the lever."

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Re: What is my mystery rifle's make?
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2012, 01:27:24 PM »
It appears to be a high wall Winchester or clone. The lever is likely a trigger blocking safety. Is the trigger a simple sear/trigger system or is there a multilever system as in the B78 vwesion from Browning.. I would guess this is one of the receivers sold by a company from Colorado a few years back.. The owner(s) were affiliated with Colorado School of Trades..  There were plans to reproduced many of the old clasic ss actions. The hanger and finger lever are old style designs.. It appears to be a mousetrap mainspring action but that is a good question.. More info please, you certainly have my attention!!!
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Re: What is my mystery rifle's make?
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2012, 02:42:13 PM »
My trouble I just picked it up at a yard sale.   The hammer is part of the falling block and leaver.  The trigger is separate.


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Re: What is my mystery rifle's make?
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2012, 04:04:29 PM »
Well you certainly have everyone's interest here. Looks to be a hi wall clone but the trigger being part of the block
is confusing. A lo wall or hi wall hammer is fastened to the block by a pivot pin regardless of it being either a coil spring action or leaf spring. How about some more pics with the action open and showing the innards visible and top of the action?. What caliber is it?. Frank

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Re: What is my mystery rifle's make?
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2012, 11:18:53 PM »
Smith school project?

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Re: What is my mystery rifle's make?
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2012, 01:13:03 PM »
I think the mystery is solved:
Clerke "Hi-Wall"
[size=78%]It's a First model John A. " Bo" Clerke Hi-Wall. Bo was a well known Schutzen shooter,barrel maker,etc..This was his early model ,circa 1966-67,a later model was brought out in 1972. I have one of each,the earlier one a .225,the latter a 6m/m Rem.The 1967 model(usually marked CH ARMORY) had the safety on the right side and no tangs. The 1972 model had no safety and by then had upper and lower tangs, but still had a thru bolt for the buttstock.These had few parts in common with the Winchester model 1885 but were often reviewed as "hell for strong". From the 60's on there have been a great many modern "replicas" of older single shot rifles.The "Armory Hi-Wall" of 1967 came in standard,deluxe and schutzen form and also a side lever "Cannon Block" shotgun with a side lever like the Remington Hepburn.The 1972 model was called the Clerke High Wall. Bo listed several locations through that time,Van Nuys,Gardena, and Santa Monica among others.Clerke Recreation Products also made an inexpense small single and double action revolver in 22 and 32 and a starter pistol.Ads said the metal in these were 125,000 psi heat treated steel.These pistols are much more common in the market than the rifles.The earliest write-up I have of the model you picture was in Guns and ammo-September of 1967.Bo has said fewer than 200 of the model you show were made.Frank de Haas has a nice write up of these in "Single Shot Rifles-Their Design And Construction"-I read a few weeks ago that Bo has recently passed away-Mike[/size]

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Re: What is my mystery rifle's make?
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2012, 04:27:58 PM »
Yes it was on the ASSRA website about John's passing. Well it looks like you have a strone well made single shot with which I'm sure you'll have many hours if not years of use. now all you need is some wood. Frank