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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #60 on: August 17, 2012, 07:12:28 AM »
But my favorite cartridge IS the best cartridge!   ;D
 
All kidding aside ibgp, I have never understood that mindset either.  I may not agree with someone but I respect their choice and their reasoning behind their choice.  That is, if they have a reason. . .

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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #61 on: August 17, 2012, 08:01:30 AM »
I keep telling myself how many wars we have fought and how many I watched die so they could have their (omitted) opinion.



No reason required, and I don't have to understand, but I can  gripe about it!! :)

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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #62 on: August 17, 2012, 11:01:30 AM »
My old .357 belt slide re-purposed for 300BLK.

Obsolete for 40 years for a revolver.
Might use it with the Handi.


Can't do that with a 30-30!! ;D

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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #63 on: August 17, 2012, 11:14:43 AM »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #64 on: August 17, 2012, 11:21:17 AM »
So why does talking about this round bother some of you

Just trying to figure out why it exist.
 
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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #65 on: August 17, 2012, 11:24:48 AM »
I am not sure about that, other than for the ar guys.  They can use the same clips with a different upper.
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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #66 on: August 17, 2012, 12:31:05 PM »
 ::) This is getting like explaining color to the blind guy. D o e s  i t  h e l p   t o  s p e a k  s l o w e r ??    Why does any cartridge exist ?  More to the point, why do we need anything other than a 30/30  in the Central and Eastern time zones, or south of the Platte River ??? Answer, we don't. There is nothing large enough, that you cannot get close enough to, that is hard enough to kill, that you need anything more. OR DIFFERENT. But guys just keep coming up with stuff . Like a 7-08. Not needed. 308- not needed. 6.5 anything, not needed. Anything OVER 30 caliber........ not needed. Shall I keep going ??? MAYBE, in the northern mountain states we could let the 45/70 in. Bears and all that.  ;) 8)
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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #67 on: August 17, 2012, 12:58:14 PM »
I don't have any thing to do with the 300BLK existing, but...
when I saw it coming, what I saw was a 30x357.
Dies off the shelf,
...one pass brass,
...and a barrel coming that only needs a rim cut.


Why 30x357 and not 30-30?
I have 30-30's that haven't been out of the closet in decades.
The 30-30 is too big for rabbits and squirrels, and out classed (in my mind and my closet) for anything bigger.


The 30x357's may get the same rating in my closet as the 30-30's, but I plan to test them out.


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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #68 on: August 17, 2012, 01:34:26 PM »
I had to anneal brass to keep them from splitting.
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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #69 on: August 17, 2012, 01:52:43 PM »
came today.



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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #70 on: August 17, 2012, 02:27:06 PM »
pant-pant-drool-drool  ::) Way to go!
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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #71 on: August 17, 2012, 04:35:15 PM »
came today.




may have to build me one them. ;D   
 
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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #72 on: August 17, 2012, 05:03:08 PM »
They're here:




http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=673258  I take it that's not someone from here or we would have seen it already....
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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #73 on: August 19, 2012, 07:30:44 AM »
I asked this on another forum but i will ask here. How well do these youth stocks work with optics? Would a cut down MC give a better cheek weld or does the youth work fine? I ask because i like the short LOP but i dont know how well it would work with a low power variable.

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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #74 on: August 19, 2012, 08:29:30 AM »
It should work fine as long as it is not a heavy recoiling gun.
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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #75 on: August 19, 2012, 02:50:19 PM »
From a range report on another site concerning a first trip to the range with a new Handi:

" 220gr pulled Sierra Match Kings,  Shot with suppressor mounted. ---9 shot group .49". 7 of the 9 shots were in one ragged hole. By far, the loudest noise was the bullet hitting the backstop."



The twist rate is printed on the barrel, (to embarrass Savage?)

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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #76 on: August 20, 2012, 12:23:15 AM »
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The twist rate is printed on the barrel, (to embarrass Savage?)

I wouldn't doubt it.  If that's the case Savage deserves it after printing that press release of theirs.
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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #77 on: August 21, 2012, 01:36:44 AM »
Everyone knows the subsonic and heavy 220 grain loads will shoot well in a 1/7 twist, but I wonder how well supersonic lighter bullets shoot?

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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #78 on: August 21, 2012, 02:12:39 AM »
Everyone knows the subsonic and heavy 220 grain loads will shoot well in a 1/7 twist, but I wonder how well supersonic lighter bullets shoot?
I suspect the throat is going to be a problem for the lighter bullet accuracy.
Jason built this cartridge to sit just off of the rifling:

That's a lot of throat.
I've got some 150gr BTHP's loaded, hopefully I can try them today.

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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #79 on: August 23, 2012, 04:09:50 PM »

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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #80 on: August 23, 2012, 10:38:02 PM »
I was afraid that would happen.
(For anyone that hasn't looked, when the Gunbroker auction was about 10 hours old the price had gone from $.01 to $370+ with 6 days left.)(+$30 shipping)


Gone crazy, for sure.

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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #81 on: August 24, 2012, 12:14:08 PM »
Jeez....  :o

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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #82 on: August 24, 2012, 04:56:17 PM »
There IS a siver lining in this cloud..... if there is this kind of demand and interest it may encourage H&R to make their own run, or to produce another run through this mechanism, thereby increasing our supply and bringing down the price. Apparently there are not too many setting around on shelves, even with the substantial price they came with. ;) 8)
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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #83 on: August 31, 2012, 02:48:33 AM »

Go CRAZY boys!


http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=302800082


That one finished at $429.99 plus $30 shipping.
There is a new listing for $425 plus $25 shipping.


http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=303877511


It may be a while before one of these gets out to me.

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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #84 on: September 02, 2012, 12:11:08 PM »
I have two on the way to my LGS for $425.... I am dropping them into a Boyd's thumbhole set that is finished in textured Black... With a DNZ mount and a Mueller 3-9 Multi-Shot scope... The barrels are  being shortened and threaded also.
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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #85 on: September 02, 2012, 01:20:01 PM »
My 1-10 twist stubbed blackout will shoot better than me at 100 yards with hornady 220 rn and 9 grains lilgun seated 0.018 off rifling
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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #86 on: September 03, 2012, 03:27:36 AM »
My 1-10 twist stubbed blackout will shoot better than me at 100 yards with hornady 220 rn and 9 grains lilgun seated 0.018 off rifling

What, no pics??  ::)

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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #87 on: September 03, 2012, 01:06:36 PM »
My 1-10 twist stubbed blackout will shoot better than me at 100 yards with hornady 220 rn and 9 grains lilgun seated 0.018 off rifling

What, no pics??  ::)

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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #88 on: September 03, 2012, 01:20:27 PM »
My 1-10 twist stubbed blackout will shoot better than me at 100 yards with hornady 220 rn and 9 grains lilgun seated 0.018 off rifling

What, no pics??  ::)

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Re: Where is the 300 AAC ?
« Reply #89 on: September 04, 2012, 05:13:24 AM »
My 1-10 twist stubbed blackout will shoot better than me at 100 yards with hornady 220 rn and 9 grains lilgun seated 0.018 off rifling

What, no pics??  ::)

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BB, ya got that right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!   8)

Ain't talkin bout handi pics.... I got a photobucket account and a safe full of those too....

Would like to see the target pictures tho....;)

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