Author Topic: Hearing very loud screams again... (Read 11174 times)

1911crazy · « **on:** June 27, 2012, 09:19:41 AM »

I was at home laying in bed watching TV around 10:30pm and heard very loud screams again comming from the bottom land across the strret where the horse farm is. In the past i have heard the big foot howls thats on the tape recorded with the train whistle on the net. It didn't have the train whistle so it wasn't someone just call blasting. It was just the howl, The bpottom land runs parallel to the highway. They say they use the rivers/streams and highways as guides to travel. Every so often my dog goes wild at night looking into the bottoms, so i'm thinking there watching us. I scan the area with the GEN 1 cheap night vision but see nothing so far. All this is getting on my nerves now and i need to do more research and start looking more for it. Its time to get some proof. Bill

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #1 on:** June 27, 2012, 09:25:00 AM »

bobcats sound like a baby screaming

Scibaer · « **Reply #2 on:** June 27, 2012, 09:29:32 AM »

yes they do and when a baby whitetail gets taken by a coyote they scream and yell like crazy too
sounds terrible.. and since there is no such animal as a BF , its has to be something like that or a bobcat

trotterlg · « **Reply #3 on:** June 27, 2012, 06:19:31 PM »

I wish you luck, the only "proof" that will hold up is a complete "what ever it is" with a hole you put in it to make it stay still. Larry

ratdog · « **Reply #4 on:** June 27, 2012, 09:01:49 PM »

I AM CHICKEN DON'T GO AT NIGHT. GOOD LUCK BUDDY TAKE A WEAPON WITH YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU WILL RUN IN TO.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #5 on:** June 27, 2012, 11:37:06 PM »

If you go out and think it might be a BF be careful it might be a mating call.

BUGEYE · « **Reply #6 on:** June 28, 2012, 12:29:25 AM »

A horse can scream if it's in trouble, and a stallion can squeal when he smells a nice ripe mare.

1911crazy · « **Reply #7 on:** June 29, 2012, 12:04:26 PM »

My new house is near where the BF was reported by a night fisherman in roraback state forest. My new place is a mirror image to my camp in VT. It has the higher ground that goes into the bottom lands. Lots of forest too.

Scibaer · « **Reply #8 on:** July 04, 2012, 03:30:27 AM »

when i was a young, i heard two stories. one from my brother and one from my dad. both of whom had seperate bigfoot encounters. they were in different states, many years apart and very different stories, event wise. however the reported bigfoot was nearly identical. so of course, my interest was piqued. i have read, studies, researched everything i could find. took classes in college that gave me knowledge that i could apply to the BF topic, was a member of websites of researchers. you get the idea.
i could talk for hours and write pages on BF related topics from bio genesis to topography , folk lore and cultural morays..
am i an BF expert.. nope no way. i do live in a state where BF and the dogman both have a long history. i hunt a swamp and thick woods that have a long long history of modern poeple and native americans seeing BF..
here is what i know after saying all of that... there is no such, and never has been a bigfoot or any animal/primate like BF .
no matter what you hear or see, bigfoot dont exist

trotterlg · « **Reply #9 on:** July 04, 2012, 03:47:34 PM »

Well................You are just no fun at all. Larry

Swampman · « **Reply #10 on:** July 04, 2012, 04:01:05 PM »

I guess the 20 some folks and 2 deputys that saw one near here in broad daylight all imagined the same thing at the same time.

Scibaer · « **Reply #11 on:** July 04, 2012, 04:13:29 PM »

there have been , too numerous to guess a number of studies done, about group of people thinking they saw a criminal with a red shirt, or blue shirt or 2 gunmen wearing green.. the human brain mis-remembers, fills in the blanks, and adds details that were not there in the actual event. i think you know the tests i am referring to..
poeple will agree with others to fit in, not be the outsider and will 'feed' off others comments..
so, 20 poeple agreeing with 2 lawmen who mis identified an animal or person is not so remarkable.
i dunno what they did see, but they didnt see a BF as commonly reported.
i dont know where your "near here" is but all animals have, because of basic biology need to fit into an specific ecology
and the supposed range of BF is too diverse ecologically speaking to make rational sense..
there are not any "jungle sheep" or "snow snakes" for a reason

Swampman · « **Reply #12 on:** July 05, 2012, 12:29:45 AM »

They saw one. There's little doubt they exisr.

GeneRector · « **Reply #13 on:** July 05, 2012, 01:46:54 AM »

Howdy! Well, people are seeing something. Most of the encounters involve a bad smell, wood knocking, screams or similar vocal calls, and sometimes rock throwing. Until someone captures or kills a BF there will always be those who believe and those who do not. Always, Gene

Scibaer · « **Reply #14 on:** July 05, 2012, 03:30:41 AM »

gene,
people hear or read about those characteristic and carry them in the back of their minds.
when they encounter something they cant readily explain, thier minds pull that information to the forefront to try explaining , finding a reason for the unexplainable. the human mind just does that as does it looks for patterns that sometime isnt really there. yes poeple are seeing something but they are mis-identifying or mis- remembering.
yes that right too, the only way to know for sure is to kill one.and have it scientifically cataloged.
see, believing is the problem. beliefs require no proof, its facts and proofs that we are after.
i dont disbelieve , i dont have any single bit of proof thats scientifically testable that BF is real . the reality is, there is none, no proof, not yet.

swampman.. they didnt see one, they only claim to have seen one, there is a difference. yes there is doubt, and an abundance of it. a claim is not proof. the scientific method is the only way we can ever prove it , not by wild claims.
id love it , it would chance history, science and biology if BF were real and could be proved.
and like i said, i have really looked into this.. ok ill let the cat out of the bag here..
a certain woman from a tv show and website contacted me on more then one occasion when BF was supposedly spotted in my area..not to far my property up north .. i know the area well.. and i did some investigating and proved it to be a hoax by some locals. .. as an example of my BFing experiences

Swampman · « **Reply #15 on:** July 05, 2012, 12:23:27 PM »

No, 22 people all saw one at the same time and that's a fact. It can't be proved because biology and science cannot find or prove these types of beings.

Scibaer · « **Reply #16 on:** July 05, 2012, 01:03:45 PM »

hi swampy,
22 people saw one ( bigfoot ) at the same time... ok site your source
it cant be proved because science cant find these type of beings ? what type would that be ?
you cant prove a negative

Scibaer · « **Reply #17 on:** July 05, 2012, 01:17:40 PM »

i would like the OP to comment, maybe get some recordings , photos or other materials for us to poke a stick at

Swampman · « **Reply #18 on:** July 05, 2012, 01:24:53 PM »

Quote from: Scibaer on July 05, 2012, 01:03:45 PM

hi swampy,
22 people saw one ( bigfoot ) at the same time... ok site your source
it cant be proved because science cant find these type of beings ? what type would that be ?
you cant prove a negative

The local paper. An extra dimensional type.

Graybeard · « **Reply #19 on:** July 05, 2012, 04:47:21 PM »

There is a large group of people who believe in bigfoot and want him to be real so badly that everything they see and hear in the woods automatically becomes a bigfoot.

There is another group of folks who believe in ghosts and like the BF believers every thing that goes bump in the night is a ghost.

There is yet another group who believe in space aliens the same way and everything they see in the sky becomes a space alien. Some of them even believe so strongly in space aliens they think it is they not GOD that created us.

Personally I don't believe in BF, ghosts or that space aliens are visiting us tho I don't rule that the possibility of intelligent life out there somewhere. More and more it's obvious there is none here on earth.

Scibaer · « **Reply #20 on:** July 06, 2012, 06:24:37 AM »

i always find it interesting , that when someone claims a BF sighting, its a friend of a relative or something that saw it. and they are afraid or something and wont show their proof
when there are pics, they are always far away , blurry or something unrecognizable, even with todays cell fone with camera's
no one ever can back up thier claims, save these common problems. there is always a issue with someone supporting thier claims.. i wonder why that is.. um no i dont really wonder i know why.

GeneRector · « **Reply #21 on:** July 06, 2012, 01:44:31 PM »

Howdy! Scibaer: Let's assume you are correct about our mind creating a BF along with the smell, woodknocking, sounds, rock throwing, etc. I wonder if our mind, senses, biochemistry, and pheromones could be tweaked to imagine a beautiful woman running through the woods instead of BF? Gosh, that would be something that would change the meaning of the words "woman chaser"! Always, Gene

Scibaer · « **Reply #22 on:** July 06, 2012, 02:55:27 PM »

hi gene,
good question.. the answer is yes and no.. its a matter of context.
you already know what a woman smells, looks and feels like..

as far as BF goes, well we really dont know, and that is when false memory syndrome and faulty suggestion recall comes into play. being in the woods amplifies that. specailly when startled or scared and/ or on alert

but get a glimpse of a woman and she may not look as good as your mind told you she did.
you need to know that i didnt make this stuff up, its a well known science.. used it court and studied in sociology and psychology everywhere.

the mind dont create BF, its creates the context for explaining BF.. poeple are seeing something, its just not a BF.
the famous florida BF was organatange ( spelling ) lost from a zoo after a storm
but a whole mess of people, not expecting an big orange ape.. was just sure as bull poop that it was a baby BF ..

GeneRector · « **Reply #23 on:** July 06, 2012, 04:01:17 PM »

the mind dont create BF, its creates the context for explaining BF.. poeple are seeing something, its just not a BF.

Howdy! Scibaer: What then are people seeing? Are our minds saying, Gosh, I see something, it must be BF. It must stink, scream, woodknocks, and throws rocks? Always, Gene

Scibaer · « **Reply #24 on:** July 06, 2012, 05:28:43 PM »

gene.. well no.. how the process of false suggestions work is.. someone reads about BF's or see's a TV show about BF's and all these characteristics are stored in the back of the mind.. then when something goes bump in the woods, the mind runs thru a series of maps to identify the noise or image.. and if there is not readily available answer ... the mind goes to the BF map..and you get a BF sighting.
now what are people seeing.. well its different things.. for an example, there are hundreds of pictures of tree stumps that people snap a pic of, thinking they are hunkered down BF's. when interviewed, these people end up saying they were feeling lost ( some actually were and some just felt turned around ) and got paranoid, and was looking for landmarks when they saw the squatted down BF looking at them.. it was a tree stump 50 yards away , late in the evening with casting shadows.. the mind looks for patterns in everything.. its a human mind trait for indentifying dangers.. think snakes or big cats.
and smells are a whole seperate issue .. the human olfactory system is not so good at seperating out smells, but the brain remembers them and triggers very stong memories.. so there is disconnect there. and sounds have a very similar problem.. primarily our narrow range of hearing.. about 50 hz to 20,000 hz and its not very directional at that.we cant swivel our ears to pinpoint the direction of the sound.
so all in all we take in about 85% of our world around us thru vision.. and we all know the eye can play tricks on the brain given half a chance.. stereo vision , limited color and contrast range, set up for distance evaluation and pattern recognization in the narrow daylight spectrum ... and on top of all that, its human nature to fit into a click ..

GeneRector · « **Reply #25 on:** July 06, 2012, 07:10:25 PM »

Howdy! What about the footprints? Always, Gene

Scibaer · « **Reply #26 on:** July 07, 2012, 01:23:50 AM »

gene,
thanks for taking the time to actually read my post, i appreciate that.
i dont have all the answers on the topic of BF, but i have researched and gained alot of knowledge about it, and knowledge about topics i dont honestly care about. those topics were important to understand though if I wanted to get to the bottom of the BF mystery. guys like billy munns and jeff meldrum are the real experts , they do alot of hard work so people like melissa hovey can grill them over and over and tearing apart thier efforts. that can show you where to place your efforts in a hurry .
i say all that to say this.. there is alot of false leads and hoax's out there. foot prints and trackways are probably the most tested, collected and worked topic of the whole BF topic. there is one expert jim chilicutt, ex police forensics fingerprint expert who got asked to work the footprint issue.. grover crantz and dr meldrum really focus on prints.. they both have piles and piles of casts.. only a very small selection of those are labeled something other then hoax's
of that small collection, a very small few of them have what jim calls dermal ridges. that is like finger prints on the foot.
the question is.. are they real , not a function of the casting process or the drying of the material the prints were set into, think shrinking mud. chilicutt has went on record and said that a couple of them look like real ridges.
so maybe, nothing has been scientifically tested using the proper methods ( but they are working on it )
but maybe, there has been collected BF footprints with dermal ridges... now does that mean they are BF footprints.
well no, because a BF sample ( means a body ) has been obtained to make a comparison with .
the prints could be , and are most likely from something else and have been disfigured.

GeneRector · « **Reply #27 on:** July 07, 2012, 04:08:13 AM »

Howdy! Scibaer: Thanks for your info. I guess time will tell. Always, Gene

Scibaer · « **Reply #28 on:** July 07, 2012, 04:36:03 AM »

Gene there is one way to know for sure.. that is the collection of a body for scientific testing.
there have been many claims, even from some of our brothers here at GBO. i have asked them to provide the evidence they claim to have and i have yet to see a single picture or hear a second of recorded sounds.
if a guy was serious, he'd have to hunt one and kill it and turn it over to scientific research.
but i guess its fun to talk about and discuss both sides of the topic.
take care, god bless

GeneRector · « **Reply #29 on:** July 07, 2012, 05:36:51 AM »

Howdy! Yes, they need to find a BF body, live or dead. And with science find out exactly what it is. People will continue to search for BF for years to come even if it can be shown to be a figment of imagination. The TV shows on the search for BF will continue and will still come up with nothing as they have in the past. It's fun to talk about it! God Bless! Always, Gene