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Re: Hearing very loud screams again...
« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2012, 10:05:40 AM »
As I mentioned they cannot find a body because they are from another dimension.
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Re: Hearing very loud screams again...
« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2012, 12:02:35 PM »
well, there are only 4 dimensions.. height, length, width and time.. so which dimension are BF's from ?
        you cant really believe that BF's ( which cant really be a flesh and blood animal anyhow ) is from some other dimension
.. i mean really:o   

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Re: Hearing very loud screams again...
« Reply #32 on: July 07, 2012, 12:22:35 PM »
Heaven is a dimension, hell is a dimension, we live in one, there are several.  Many of the things we can't explain come and go.  I'm not guessing.
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Re: Hearing very loud screams again...
« Reply #33 on: July 07, 2012, 04:01:30 PM »
You need to listen to Swampman, he has expalined some things in lots of past posting.  I have a very slightly different thought however very simular.  Big Foot exists in a very slightly different time than we do (another dimension if you like).  Every now and then time slips a little, either his our ours, and we end up at the same place at the same time.  Other than that we are in the same place but at differerent times.  When we are both in our own time (dimension) we cannot see each other, but when they drift together we do.  Now, the trick would be, to shoot him at just the right time.  Larry
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Re: Hearing very loud screams again...
« Reply #34 on: July 07, 2012, 10:01:25 PM »
That pretty well explains it.
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Re: Hearing very loud screams again...
« Reply #35 on: July 09, 2012, 06:57:43 AM »
Einstein   did say there could be 4 or more dimentions.
My son went up to my camp in the mountains this past weekend and the wind was blowing away from the top of the mountain at them into the valley/bottoms below. A southeast direction.  He said it was very quiet noise wise all weekend.  He cooked on an open fire hotdogs/burgers.  I guess that the wind direction also plays a key role too.  I realize now that the wind going in the northwest/north direction is when all the action takes place.

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« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2012, 09:11:39 AM »
How about that law that says two objects can't occupy the same space at the same time ?
Nothing worst than slipping sloppy diminsions .................... ;D
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Re: Hearing very loud screams again...
« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2012, 11:12:17 AM »
the dimension jumping idea is pure non sense and not worth any time discussing

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Re: Hearing very loud screams again...
« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2012, 11:43:27 AM »
How about that law that says two objects can't occupy the same space at the same time ?
Nothing worst than slipping sloppy diminsions .................... ;D

We know that isn't true.  Like I said, I'm not guessing.  I know.....
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Re: Hearing very loud screams again...
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2012, 12:24:01 PM »
actually it is true, the top minds of quantum science say so.
you are not a top mind in any branch of science, so in fact you are guessing.

if you want to claim that you know and your not guessing., show us your pier reviewed paper on the study of quantum physics that shows the proof of other dimensions using the scientific methods..

i will await nothing less then a PDF of your paper. no baseless claims , comments or excuses.



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Re: Hearing very loud screams again...
« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2012, 12:44:19 PM »
My source created those sources.
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« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2012, 12:58:09 PM »
My source created those sources.

that is exactly the type of comment i was referring to.

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« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2012, 01:02:59 PM »
I think some people are confusing the concept of a "dimension" with the scientific hypothesis of parallel universes. (note I said hypothesis, meaning "educated guess"). To date there is no scientific proof of the existence of parallel universes. Even physicists who have postulated their existence say proving try exist would be virtually impossible, as there is no point of intersection.
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Re: Hearing very loud screams again...
« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2012, 01:16:46 PM »
you are exactly right kevin, and i have said just that over and over, in this thread and others on the same subject.
some people here have even claimed to have pictures of other 'dimension' , of course never to produce them
 i have used some terms very loosely in past post to make the discussion easier, less wordy .
  and my 13 year old kid said.. " how would bigfoot , being an animal , even know about the rift  ? or understand it enough to use it  ? .. and why hasnt a human used it and came back...
this dimension / parallel universe idea is just silly non sense,  enough so my daughter can punch it full of holes without really even caring about it ....
 


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« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2012, 01:57:33 PM »
Bigfoot isn't an animal and they have no control over the rift nor do we.  It just happens.  Some things like sickness, drugs, and near death can increase the likelyhood of a rift.  Even then there is no control.  I think it scares you that you can't dismiss this valid explanation. 8)
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Re: Hearing very loud screams again...
« Reply #45 on: July 09, 2012, 02:39:29 PM »
ok fine,
 if BF foot has no control over it, then why doesnt BF pop up in downtown new york, or on I75 highway or in any other major well seen location in broad daylight or a very well popluated area ?

 not im not scared at all,  your silly excuses and wild  logic are no in way valid or even rational explanations.
 its irrelevant really,  if BF is or is not animal, of if it has control of dimension jumps or not.
 if jumps  are controlled , the question is why are they always in remote and out the way locations ?
 and if they are not controlled jumps  , then why is it not random.. why is the locations always 'out of the way' ?
 im not scared by this at all, im quite certain i have read more on quantum physics, science and even theology then you.
and understand these implications very well. thats how i can ask these questions thats are more pointed then you can address. no disrespect or attack intended.  ive been on this path for about 30 years now.
even when observing the seeming random actions of  atom particles, there is a defined pattern, we just cant see it clearly because ' we cant see two object occupying the same place at the same time"
if BF is not an animal , they we have to throw out any and all evidence that has been collected that shows physical evidence of a flesh and blood creature . ie. foot print cast, hair and stool samples, thermal images... all of it..
if BF is an animal of any species , class or phylum , then it cant jump dimensions or universes.. you cant have it both ways
so , is it animal ?
       can jumps be controlled ?
       is it  quantum being ?
       jumps are not controlled ?
in any event, statical math and physics say nope.. so BF is just a figment of the human condition



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Re: Hearing very loud screams again...
« Reply #46 on: July 09, 2012, 05:06:42 PM »
Scibaer what you seem to be failing to grasp is that swampy is the source of all knowledge and enlightenment. He sees all, knows all and if ya don't believe it just ask him. He'll tell you.  :o


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« Reply #47 on: July 09, 2012, 10:16:44 PM »
Many of the things we see and hear that cannot be explained, come from othe dimensions.  Shadow Men are called different things and appear in many different places including populated areas.  We nor they have any control over these appearences but some are more likely to see them than otheres.  Most of what is reported is bunk.  Some of it isn't.  It's all perfectly logical and scientific.  We come from somewhere when we are born, and we go somewhere when we die.
Jumps cannot be controlled....yet
It can be a quantum being if that's what you want to call it
I already have it both ways
 
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Re: Hearing very loud screams again...
« Reply #48 on: July 10, 2012, 12:32:47 AM »
Bigfoot isn't an animal and they have no control over the rift nor do we.  It just happens.  Some things like sickness, drugs, and near death can increase the likelyhood of a rift.  Even then there is no control.  I think it scares you that you can't dismiss this valid explanation. 8)

 Those things (along with severe stress, sleep deprivation, malnutrition, dehydration, heat stroke, hypothermia, mental conditions, religious euphoria, etc.) are all known to produce hallucinations. A "rift" (break) from reality, but hardly a tear in the space-time continuum.
 
 Couple one (or more) of those with another well known mental phenomenon called pareidolia, sprinkle in some wishfull thinking, exaggeration, a hike in the sticks (or swamp) and....... Voila. You've conjured yerself a bigfoot.
 
 You're not guessing. You know what you saw. It was real. In your mind, anyway.  ;)
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Re: Hearing very loud screams again...
« Reply #49 on: July 10, 2012, 02:33:47 AM »
What science calls it, and what it is are 2 different things.
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Re: Hearing very loud screams again...
« Reply #50 on: July 10, 2012, 01:24:09 PM »
It could all be the guise of shape shifting aliens.  Bigfoot when they want to be, maybe Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama next - who knows.  Probably future earthlings trying to escape the future global expansion of obama care if we don't vote him out..  I don't think they are animals.  They are hominids but obviously socially disabled as they have never come forward with any introductions, either individual or group, or invited anyone here to a family bar-b-que.  Pretty dang pathetic if ya ask me..
I wouldn't bother with them unless your pet cats and dogs start disappearing or they otherwise become a nuisance.  Then you can shoot them. 

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« Reply #51 on: July 10, 2012, 02:08:27 PM »
mikey, your right, hillary and michelle are not animals, hominids yes but clearly lower life forms that do love aliens , from south of the border... ::)

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« Reply #52 on: July 10, 2012, 03:54:00 PM »
1911crazy,
 Do not know if they have catamount`s ( cougars" in VT or not. But if you ever have the opportunity to hear one of those 'kitties' cut loose and scream ,one could imagine all kinds of unknown beast prowling the woods!
I have heard one late at night in E. Texas and you will never forget the sound!
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Re: Hearing very loud screams again...
« Reply #53 on: July 11, 2012, 06:26:46 AM »
On the comment about science. 

 "The scientific process is a naturally self-correcting one, as scientists attempt to replicate published results."

and further ...

"A great thing about science is that the ability to do rigorous tests with controls provides an increasingly accurate knowledge of life and the universe that is extremely useful." said, Felisa Wolfe-Simon,  a Fellow in NASA's Astrobiology Program.


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« Reply #54 on: July 11, 2012, 01:16:05 PM »
Like I said it's pure science.  It disturbs you because it explains away all your arguments......very neatly....
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Re: Hearing very loud screams again...
« Reply #55 on: July 11, 2012, 01:45:10 PM »
i am disturbed that "pure science" explains away my promoting the scientific method and using science to understand the world around us and applying science to understand the bigfoot issue  ?
its 'pure science'  to believe that BF can jump dimensions ? or are creatures from a parallel universe.. like you have said in just a few posts back ?  i have hard time with your comments, im  not so sure you read what you wrote previously, or just say whatever you think will get under someones skin. 
my last comment was a quote that was in support of my position of using and trusting science
your last post was to say pure science disturbs me... 
thats just nuts man

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« Reply #56 on: July 12, 2012, 01:12:22 AM »
“For we are not contending against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places." - Ephesians 6:12
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« Reply #57 on: July 12, 2012, 03:48:38 AM »
Ephesians 6:12 King James Version  Holy Bible
 This verse tells us that our warfare is against demons, and those angels who rose up against God—look upon us as invaders. As any invaded people would, they see themselves as rising to defend their home and territory despite the fact that they probably know that God has given this earth to us as an inheritance.
reading 6:13 thru 6:24 clearly explains that. and i dont understand how misquoting scripture explains anything about your pure science blunder.  verse 6:12 sure doesnt do that, or even makes much sense in the context of this discussion other then to muddy the waters and divert the conversation away from your blunder.
 or was it your intent you show you knew more about religion then me ? or show me a non believer ?  maybe you should try and find a quote from a scientific paper that shows the biological possibility of BF's 

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« Reply #58 on: July 12, 2012, 04:51:06 AM »
I know more about religion and science than you.
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Re: Hearing very loud screams again...
« Reply #59 on: July 12, 2012, 05:29:05 AM »
Let me get this straight... BF is a demon from Hell?  Is that what you were saying?