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Re: Mountain Men show on History channel.
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2012, 05:40:00 AM »
publicity for what?  what does Eustace have to gain from publicity.  he shuns the public and lives off the land.  The more comments you make, the less sense they make.  Quit while you are behind
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« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2012, 06:29:51 AM »
I have spent a lot of my life living in the woods and working in the woods.  Mountain Men misses the mark.   I remember an old miner who was in his mid 70’s living in a one room cabin.  And he had a few couple productive fruit trees.  He had constructed a water wheel that powdered one light bulb in the cabin.  I am sure that he lived on “side hill salmon” know as poached venison and vegetables from his little garden.  He ground up gold bearing rock into flour from which he panned gold.  The rock that showed visible gold he sold as jeweler’s gold.

I remember Grandma Green who was an RN who married a miner.  They lived in a very remote area and when people were injured or sick she was the first stop before they were taken over the mountain to the county hospital.  Grandma Green canned bear meat, venison, along with salmon and steelhead out of the river for food.  I remember visiting as a kid and fishing the river while dad kept a close eye on me.  Grandma Green did have an old crank phone.  The phoneline ran a few miles along the river and when the phone rang everybody listen.     Grandma Green came out of the mountains during WWII to work as a nurse at the County Hospital.  My mother was a nurse at the hospital and they became long time friends.  One day she told me to call her Grandma.  It was an honor.  I believe she made a lot of friends with kids including another member of this board.

A while back I told my wife that the producers/writers are taking people who live and work in the outdoors and trying to make a TV show.  Unfortunately the producers/writers lack the skill to capture the essence of living in the mountains.  The scene of Tom’s neighbor out in the snow looking for Tom with an over and under shotgun broke open on his shoulder was a joke.  That scene had to be put together by a city slicker.  I suspect the man owned far better firearms to carry around in bear country, because ducks was not his objective. I cannot knock the use of a small ski plane in Alaska.  Small planes have been a way of life in Alaska going back to the early days.  Some fly and live, some fly and die. 

Back in the 1960’s I spent a summer away from school on a homestead in the Peace River Country of Alberta.  We did not have power, the well did not have a pump, we brought water up in a bucket on a rope, and we bought vegetables and bread.  During that summer I shot a bear, a large bobcat, lots of rabbits, and grouse for meat.

For the first two years of our marriage the wife and I live at a remote Guard Station with a spring fed water system and a small WWII generator which we ran a few hours a week.  A single wire fire phone provided communications about 2 miles up and down the creek.  I and the neighbors would climb the trees using trees spurs to maintain the line.  My primary communications out of the canyon was to a distant fire lookout which relayed messages to the main station.

I think the people putting the show on have good basic people but they are missing the mark.  The characters are good.  For some reason I am thinking Tom is wearing his “Go to Town Hat.”  I like old Tom but the producers keeps showing the same set of bear tracks.  Suspect that fry’s a lot of viewers grits.
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Re: Mountain Men show on History channel.
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2012, 09:51:55 AM »
You get on the History Channel or Discovery.  You work for free.  It's the T-Shirts, hats, knives, and even guns with your picture on them that make you rich.  It's all about working the system.  Paying a guy $1000.00 to live on his farm for a week and shovel horse crap.  It doesn't get any better than that.  They'll be rich but they don't get paid to be on the show.
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« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2012, 10:48:26 AM »
  I believe that Swampy was correct in that the show was misnamed.  I would hope nobody expected anyone to be living as the Jeremiah Johnson epic showed.  I expected some to drive a truck or Jeep, or in appropriate sequences, use a snow machine, horse or even dog sled...but still be 21st century nonetheless.   Perhaps "Remote living" or some such name would have been better...but not so colorful.
  Sure, there is some reality, but also a lot of B.S...because B. S. sells.
   Naturally, there has to be some "interpersonal relationship" problems..or they will fail to attract an adequate audience.  This is "show business' and business is the idea of making money, it won't be a money maker if all they could attract is a bunch of grisly old hunters and shooters...like us!
  Just as with the "American Guns" series..the guns are interesting, but unless they had some "relationships" and "interpersonal tension" they would lose much of their females (and some males) from the audience.
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« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2012, 12:08:58 PM »
No doubt the BS factor is there but I find the characters pretty likeable more or less. I guess I am attracted to the idea of the life style more than what they are actually doing.

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Re: Mountain Men show on History channel.
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2012, 02:15:52 PM »
SISKIYOU. Great post Sir, thanks for sharing. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
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Re: Mountain Men show on History channel.
« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2012, 02:21:19 AM »
I watched it once maybe twice. Kinda pathetic at best. It's like all the rest of the scripted so called reality shows that are the rage these days. Not worth the electricity it takes to work the remote control.

Totally and completely fake.

I agree  with that.  I would rather read a book about mountain men than watch that crap.

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Re: Mountain Men show on History channel.
« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2012, 02:33:07 AM »
Hey Swampy,


According to the history channel web site, they have to pay participants a minimum of 809 dollars a day.  This is mandatory from screen actors guild.  The more popular a participant becomes, the more they can get.  So they make a minimum of 809 a day even if they are not filmed.  If the crew follows them, they get paid. Multiply that by oh probably 8 or ten weeks adds up.  AS i said he will get his taxes paid.  I understand that you will say this is not true as you have all the inside information, but I know it is true.  So, I guess maybe you at least had a chance to learn something today.
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« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2012, 02:46:36 AM »
They don't get paid.  I know.....
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Re: Mountain Men show on History channel.
« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2012, 03:05:00 AM »
They don't get paid.  I know.....
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« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2012, 03:20:06 AM »
They don't get paid.  I know.....

 
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Re: Mountain Men show on History channel.
« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2012, 03:41:13 AM »
It's first hand info.....I can assure you.
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« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2012, 04:06:58 AM »
so sad even when he is wrong he is right.  But when he is wrong is usually about the only time he is right. I guess the people who produce the show the history channel are not as informed as good ol swampy.  It is a union thing, they have to pay them according to union rules.  You may want to try to dazzle us on another subject. So his taxes will be paid by the history channel. 
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Re: Mountain Men show on History channel.
« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2012, 09:42:25 AM »
I will enter the fray here one more time, when they were looking for people here in Oklahoma to do the okie nodeling show they called my son a lic. bonded fishing and hunting guide and all they would pay to hall the film crew in his guide boat was 150.00 per day, that would not even pay his fuel bill for truck and boat, he told them no thanks. some on the history shows are turned into stars and then they can make lots of money take Pawn stars as an example.
 
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Re: Mountain Men show on History channel.
« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2012, 10:53:09 AM »
I like it, but some of the dialogue seems a little contrived.  A disclaimer here as I was a producer/director/writer before retirement so I might be too critical.
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« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2012, 11:11:14 AM »
so sad even when he is wrong he is right.  But when he is wrong is usually about the only time he is right. I guess the people who produce the show the history channel are not as informed as good ol swampy.  It is a union thing, they have to pay them according to union rules.  You may ant to try to dazzle us on another subject. So his taxes will be paid by the history channel.

I'm just giving you first hand info.  If you'd rather believe the internet over someone who was actually there then have at it.  We aren't union members.
 
 
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« Reply #47 on: July 01, 2012, 11:19:31 AM »
For it to be FIRST hand info you'd have to be on the show or at a mimimum have been asked to be on the show. Anything else is second hand info at best.


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« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2012, 11:23:53 AM »
swampy it is ok to say once in a while oops I was wrong.  I never said they or now you I guess were in the union I said to be on a show like that they get paid union scale.  It is mandatory. Like I said I knew you would know more than the history channel web site. They only produce the show.  No sense trying to make sense to you so good luck in your delusions of grandiosity.  Let me know if you want me to explain what that means to you. 
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« Reply #49 on: July 01, 2012, 11:37:13 AM »
For it to be FIRST hand info you'd have to be on the show or at a mimimum have been asked to be on the show. Anything else is second hand info at best.

That's correct....
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« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2012, 12:13:03 PM »
oh so now it has went form your son knowing eustace to you being asked to be on the show. Where are my boots?
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« Reply #51 on: July 01, 2012, 12:47:25 PM »
I didn't say the show.
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« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2012, 01:00:47 PM »
i take back delusions of grandeur and raise it ti narcissistic personality. as stated first hand knowledge would imply you had first hand. oh well enjoy your fantasies.
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« Reply #53 on: July 01, 2012, 03:30:05 PM »
In order for the history channel to have to follow union rules for pay wouldnt these men have to be members of the screen actors guild? I thought that this was how all of this reality show stuff started when the Guild went on strike networks just started hiring nobodies to star in these "unscripted" shows?

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« Reply #54 on: July 01, 2012, 09:33:18 PM »
 a total waist of my time ;D

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« Reply #55 on: July 02, 2012, 12:26:43 AM »
The union would likely be either SAG or AFTRA, but I don't think it would be necessary for non-actors on a documantary.  Those unions are not very strong these days anyhow.

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« Reply #56 on: July 02, 2012, 12:26:52 AM »
 I like it
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« Reply #57 on: July 02, 2012, 12:21:36 PM »
When the fur trapper in Alaska has his snowmobile break down, he says he has to walk 10 miles back to his cabin. Why doesn't he ride with the camera crew filming him walking off into the distance? :o 

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« Reply #58 on: July 02, 2012, 01:52:20 PM »
When the fur trapper in Alaska has his snowmobile break down, he says he has to walk 10 miles back to his cabin. Why doesn't he ride with the camera crew filming him walking off into the distance? :o

Since I was once a TV cameraman I often wonder how they get a frontal shot of a guy reaching the peak of a mountain, and being the first to climb that mountain. ;D

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« Reply #59 on: July 02, 2012, 05:34:49 PM »
Our local celebs from Hillbilly hand fishin get paid by the show.
Not as much as you would think but yes they get paid. Can't say that all these jokers get paid but these boys do.
The boss lady went to school with them and I fished with them back when we were kids.
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