Author Topic: Mountain Men show on History channel. (Read 6412 times)

Tommyt · « **Reply #60 on:** July 03, 2012, 03:15:10 AM »

Quote from: IrishMike on July 02, 2012, 12:21:36 PM

When the fur trapper in Alaska has his snowmobile break down, he says he has to walk 10 miles back to his cabin. Why doesn't he ride with the camera crew filming him walking off into the distance?

He does! right after the cameras go OFF

He is attempting to show what it would b like
if all alone as he normally is

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #61 on:** July 03, 2012, 03:53:10 AM »

The article Siskiyou posted said the trapper in Alaska used a .358 caliber rifle. Anyone know what type rifle. I assume a BLR. Lightweight, fast handling.

RevJim · « **Reply #62 on:** July 03, 2012, 04:33:44 AM »

I watch it if I'm bored, ha. I get a kick how everything is "dangerus", i.e. the dog can't disappear for a minute w/o "maybe the bear got it", or theres a grizzly outside, so "let's open the door and shine a lantern, sic the dog on him", ha. Saw the visit with the brother, "pushed the lion offf the ranch" with 3 wild mustangs, and did you see those old ragged, wore out saddles and tack? ha
I still don't know how Eustice 'can't make it through the winter w/o his Kale crop". Or why they have 2x6"s on the place, but he has to use quarter rails to build a deer blind? ha. Best of all of "how dangerous it was to pull that Toyota up the "frozen hill" with two big horses...they ought to see the ragged contraptions those South African blacks hook up and pull with a donkey, ha. And that barn held up "with chunks"! ha. He can get full length logs for a deer stand, but not for the barn? Sweet.
And ol Marty, I like him the best, you got to be half crazy to fly a small plane, let alone in Alaska, and he seems the most resourceful of them all. Just living in that kind of cold is a challenge, but no one really expected him to walk back 10 miles, sure if he was alone. And not even a .22 pistol for the trapline? Maybe he had it on under his coat? It's just a TV show, and better than most of the other "Hunting shows" where the Metallica Wannabes are playing that awful garage band crap music...there, I said it, ha. What a hoot. Where's Mutual of Omahas Wild Kingdom when you need it or Marty Stouffer...ha.
I like just seeing the different country each is in, that's the best thing about the show for me, but hey, everybody is scratching for a dollar nowadays...I don't know, but they tell me that "even Kim Karadashian's show" is all a fake...lol.

tobster · « **Reply #63 on:** July 03, 2012, 03:35:23 PM »

I nearly fell off my chair when they said the Toyota pick-up that team of horses was pulling weighed 8,000 pounds. They must have beefed it up in case the president needed to borrow it.

Star1pup · « **Reply #64 on:** July 03, 2012, 11:50:16 PM »

Quote from: tobster on July 03, 2012, 03:35:23 PM

I nearly fell off my chair when they said the Toyota pick-up that team of horses was pulling weighed 8,000 pounds. They must have beefed it up in case the president needed to borrow it.

Let's face it guys. The show is poorly directed, but sometimes it's more interesting to watch than all the other stuff on TV. My guess is that the producer/director is not someone who understands the outdoors, but I still watch it instead of CNN.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #65 on:** July 04, 2012, 04:13:58 AM »

Quote from: tobster on July 03, 2012, 03:35:23 PM

I nearly fell off my chair when they said the Toyota pick-up that team of horses was pulling weighed 8,000 pounds. They must have beefed it up in case the president needed to borrow it.

The same thing crossed my mind, their narrator and the narrator for Swamp People need a reality check on weight guestimates!

Tim

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #66 on:** July 04, 2012, 05:56:49 AM »

I watched this mess again last night. I stand corrected This thing should be called Mountainmen Out of Molemen, or How Can Anything Be Exagerated Any Worse?

Holey buckets, what exactly makes up an exciting day in the life of producers and directors? They must have a dreaded fear of garbage dispoals, and what could take place at the four way stop at the end of the street? Announcer voiceover, Delbert needs to be very cautious here, many is the time that a concrete mixer truck has lost its brakes,and when approaching this intersection he is vitaly aware of the dangers involved. One misstep and Delbert would have to make use of his auto policy and his healthcare policy, both about to wrecked by administrative cost that are skyrocketing. How will our hero escape this tragedy in the making? Cue to a commercial.

RevJim · « **Reply #67 on:** July 04, 2012, 06:17:29 AM »

The only rifle I saw with Ol Marty was a Ruger .44 Carbine. I'm sure he has other rifles. I wathced it last night and Eustice finally got a doe, so they won't starve this winter, Thank You Jesus! ha.
And don't those grizzly ever hibernate in Montana? I have to admit, I started having a good time watching this last night, ha.
Ol Manny of the Swamps in Florida is another character, saw him worry a hog to death with a spear, and another hog just about cut him from crotch to eyeball, ha. All of it is better than Piers Morgan for sure! Happy 4th guys.

Star1pup · « **Reply #68 on:** July 04, 2012, 01:49:40 PM »

Hey, Empty Quiver. Not all who ended up as producers and directors are whimps.

I started out as a cameraman. Do you remember the riots of the 60s & 70s and good old Kent State? I saw them through a camera viewfinder. It got downright dangerous at times.

But, I agree with you that these seem hoaky to me. They should have an outdoor advisor.
I still watch them instead of the more boring TV shows, and I sure like that Super Cub.

powderman · « **Reply #69 on:** July 04, 2012, 04:38:38 PM »

Now you guys got me wanting to see it, but no cable or sattelite. POWDERMAN.

coyotejoe · « **Reply #70 on:** July 05, 2012, 03:41:22 AM »

The thing I find most annoying about that show is how the producers seem to think a gun is a gun and no one will notice if the gun changes in mid scene. The kid, Justin, was shown attempting to sight in a plastic stocked '94 Winchester, shooting a Marlin .22 and fiddling with a Remington pump rifle but somehow it was Justin's fault when Eustace botched a 40 yard shot with his Ruger #1 and had to track the deer with a pump shotgun.

Same thing with Swamp People, we'd see someone aiming with four different rifles on what was supposedly all the same gator. It seems the swamp folks were told to wear the same clothes every day so producers could cut and edit together pieces which were actually shot on different days but they never thought about different guns and didn't consider it important because a gun is a gun.

DEACONLLB · « **Reply #71 on:** July 05, 2012, 05:46:08 AM »

Troy wears the same shirt because he says it is his lucky shirt, maybe the rest do the same, I did notice that Troy seems to have put on a little weight,

Powderman you can go on youtube and watch some of the shows if you have any interest, I did notice that the Guise brothers were out fishing for gar fish last week and Mitchel has been dead for close to 3 weeks, can't waist any of that film footage

with all the mistakes that us professional people pick up on it is still better than alot of the other trash, cant wait for this evening just relax and watch swamp people and those mountain men.

I like Liz and Kristie they are two tough gals.
Deaconllb

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #72 on:** July 06, 2012, 05:17:57 AM »

On Eustace's muffed shot.

Why on creation do you trust someone whom you have little trust in... sight in your rifle? What exactly did you do to said rifle causing it to require re sighting anyway?

Maybe I am spending too much time and money finding and purchasing equipment that can be trusted to hold zero.

coyotejoe · « **Reply #73 on:** July 07, 2012, 02:27:13 AM »

Eustace calls himself a "teacher" but what kind of teacher blames his student for teacher's mistake? Last episode Eustace claimed he gets by on "less than 2,000 dollars per year". According to his website visitors pay $95.00 for a "spoon carving class", $250.00 for a "tree house building class" and $650.00 for a five day camp. So he only needs three campers and one spoon carver per year and he's in tall cotton. Real mountainmen don't have websites!

Swampman · « **Reply #74 on:** July 07, 2012, 10:15:32 AM »

Mountain Men is the name of the show. They aren't Mountain Men as defined by history. The Mountain Men only existed from 1828 to about 1840 and that's it. The show was just poorly named.

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #75 on:** July 07, 2012, 03:46:17 PM »

I'll call your poorly named and raise you a poorly executed. I have no doubt these guys are a fair bit handier than the show leads one to believe.

What I see is a penny pinching, hippie, hillbilly. A semi retired outdoorsman, who lives where there are no decent part time jobs, and a fella who supplements his income with trapping during the winter. Again because there are no other decent employment opportunities.

Could have been called " Getting By In A Rural Community" or "8% Unemployment? Come To The Country"

Swampman · « **Reply #76 on:** July 07, 2012, 09:52:13 PM »

Or "Living My Dream."

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #77 on:** July 08, 2012, 06:30:55 AM »

Quote from: Swampman on July 07, 2012, 09:52:13 PM

Or "Living My Dream."

True that. You may well be right.

lakota · « **Reply #78 on:** July 08, 2012, 08:45:37 AM »

I sense a lot of bitterness towards the 3 men on this show. Maybe a little jealousy? I doubt the 3 of them have little say in the final production cut where no doubt a lot of the hollywood stupidity and dramatic B.S. is added. If I were given the choice to continue punching a time clock and working for others or to live a more free and simple lifestyle as they do I would have to give it serious consideration. If that guy in North Carolina can sucker dumb yuppie suburbanites to come in and pay him to work on his farm or learn to carve wooden spoons then I say more power to him.

guzzijohn · « **Reply #79 on:** July 08, 2012, 11:46:49 PM »

If I was the producer of this show and I was reading these threads I would be smiling. By the show not being "perfect" it creates controversy and people will continue to tune in just to pick it apart.
GuzziJohn

ratdog · « **Reply #80 on:** July 09, 2012, 02:59:20 AM »

i guess i really don't know what a swamp man is either.

Swampman · « **Reply #81 on:** July 09, 2012, 03:09:53 AM »

One who lives in the swamp.

Spirithawk · « **Reply #82 on:** July 09, 2012, 07:53:35 AM »

Dang guys, come on. Even as a kid I understood you couldn't, and shouldn't, believe every thing you saw on tv. So what's changed?

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #83 on:** July 09, 2012, 08:03:24 AM »

Quote from: Spanky on June 28, 2012, 11:25:24 AM

What a crock.
Since when do "mountain men" drive brand new trucks, fly airplanes and have big fancy houses?

Spanky

Prolly since they have been available to buy

OldSchoolRanger · « **Reply #84 on:** July 09, 2012, 05:04:21 PM »

Quote from: lakota on July 08, 2012, 08:45:37 AM

I sense a lot of bitterness towards the 3 men on this show. Maybe a little jealousy? I doubt the 3 of them have little say in the final production cut where no doubt a lot of the hollywood stupidity and dramatic B.S. is added. If I were given the choice to continue punching a time clock and working for others or to live a more free and simple lifestyle as they do I would have to give it serious consideration. If that guy in North Carolina can sucker dumb yuppie suburbanites to come in and pay him to work on his farm or learn to carve wooden spoons then I say more power to him.

You got it lakota. Saw only one episode of the show, where the guy in NC couldn't hit the barn side of a deer. Couldn't watch it anymore after that. Maybe they should have named the show "gotcha sucka!"

Quote from: Star1pup on July 02, 2012, 12:26:43 AM

The union would likely be either SAG or AFTRA, but I don't think it would be necessary for non-actors on a documantary. Those unions are not very strong these days anyhow.

These reality shows all started as a result of the writers strike, a few years ago. The shows producers ended up making reality shows as a way to fill slots during the strike, and found out it was a lot cheaper than scripted shows. The unions sc***ed themselves, I guess you eventually reap what you sow.

Swampman · « **Reply #85 on:** July 09, 2012, 10:18:10 PM »

TV is the pits and we could better spend our time collecting belly button lint.

P.A. Myers · « **Reply #86 on:** July 10, 2012, 01:00:13 AM »

Reality shows don't claim to be real. Most of them tend to be just silly. I like to watch shows with railroad action, something I know a bit about. Everyone I've seen just couldn't have happened. As Bob Barker said: "If people didn't watch it, it wouldn't be on".

P.A.

ironglow · « **Reply #87 on:** July 10, 2012, 01:29:36 AM »

Just remember..these shows are put together by "tinsel town types".. and meant to be watched by many whose big adventure in the "wild"..is a tromp through the local city park..

ratdog · « **Reply #88 on:** July 10, 2012, 04:22:37 AM »

i guess we don't know what a swamp man is either?

coyotejoe · « **Reply #89 on:** July 10, 2012, 05:33:00 AM »

I think we all are too hard on the personalities of the show. I have seen on other sites comments by people who personally know the subjects of the show and some who even witnessed some of the filming and they say the producers cut, splice and edit the film in ways which create a made up story that never really happened at all. The subjects of the program have no control over how it will be presented months later. Here's just one such comment.
#7 Eustace and Turtle Island Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 2012-06-27. I live and work on the preserve with Eustace. We did 95% of that roof with a nail gun. The show is chock full of absolute horse puckey! They used several months of footage to completely fabricate the gun misfiring story, among lots of other lies. The show is such a sham, and frankly... makes all three mountain men look like idiots. Mostly, when you have people making a show, with no context for actual living, or being out of doors... that's what you get... a lame reality show. ps. Eustace would NEVER - in a million years let anyone touch his gun. that whole story was completely made up. Its absolutely incredible what they can do with editing. What a let down! We hope people don;t lose faith in the preserve and our real mission. We have open houses twice a year so you can see the REAL reality for yourself.

We have every right as TV viewers to be critical of the show but let's not make the mistake, as I have done, of making it about the subjects who have no control over how they are made to look on the show.