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Offline ironglow

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PROOF... the SCOTUS is screwed up..
« on: July 01, 2012, 01:50:24 AM »
  I suppose that since the nation is in a death spiral..the courts must fall also..
 
  It is illegal to impersonate a police officer..it is also illegal to impersonate an elected politician..  But impersonating a soldier sailor, marine ..a hero or veteran is perfectly acceptable..says SCOTUS..
 
  http://www.kfiam640.com/pages/BillCarroll.html?article=10235828
 
     Actually, elected politicians are being impersonated... there are low-lifes  lying, cheating and stealing every day... ;)   ;D
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Re: PROOF... the SCOTUS is screwed up..
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2012, 01:56:19 AM »
Yeah well he's lying about being an American and Christian so doesn't surprise me that he'ld think nothing of lying about military service.   
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Re: PROOF... the SCOTUS is screwed up..
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2012, 12:48:56 AM »
I saw a resume, the applicant was claiming Viet Nam service. He was born the same year I was.
I told him I wouldn't hire him becuase of his Viet Nam service. He started to get pretty uptight about it. Saying he would file a law suit. I told him it was because he was a liar not becuase he served. I don't know too many Americans who served at 5 years old.  I won't hire someone who lies about military service or medals.
 
There are a few in congress who have served, most haven't. Maybe if the law was changed that you have to have served before you can vote or hold office things might be a bit different. Just a thought...
 
 

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Re: PROOF... the SCOTUS is screwed up..
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2012, 01:01:27 AM »
I saw a resume, the applicant was claiming Viet Nam service. He was born the same year I was.
I told him I wouldn't hire him becuase of his Viet Nam service. He started to get pretty uptight about it. Saying he would file a law suit. I told him it was because he was a liar not becuase he served. I don't know too many Americans who served at 5 years old.  I won't hire someone who lies about military service or medals.
 
There are a few in congress who have served, most haven't. Maybe if the law was changed that you have to have served before you can vote or hold office things might be a bit different. Just a thought...
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Re: PROOF... the SCOTUS is screwed up..
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2012, 03:09:22 AM »
  Its also acceptable to portray a Christian when in reality your a Muslim :-[
and get away with it along with free housing,food and transportation,protectiom
Mentioning no names :-X

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court on Thursday struck down a federal law making it a crime to lie about receiving the Medal of Honor and other prized military awards, with justices branding the false claim "contemptible" but nonetheless protected by the First Amendment.

The court voted 6-3 in favor of Xavier Alvarez, a former local elected official in California who falsely said he was a decorated war veteran and had pleaded guilty to violating the 2006 law, known as the Stolen Valor Act. The law, enacted when the U.S. was at war in Afghanistan and Iraq, was aimed at people making phony claims of heroism in battle.

The ruling, written by Justice Anthony Kennedy, ordered that the conviction be thrown out.

"Though few might find respondent's statements anything but contemptible, his right to make those statements is protected by the Constitution's guarantee of freedom of speech and expression. The Stolen Valor Act infringes upon speech protected by the First Amendment," Kennedy said.

The high court has in recent years rejected limits on speech. The justices struck down a federal ban on videos showing graphic violence against animals and rejected a state law intended to keep violent video games away from children. The court also turned aside the attempt by the father of a dead Marine to sue fundamentalist church members who staged a mocking protest at his son's funeral. In 1989, the court said the Constitution protects the burning of the American flag.

Justices Samuel Alito, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas dissented in the Alvarez case.

"These lies have no value in and of themselves, and proscribing them does not chill any valuable speech," Alito said. "By holding that the First Amendment nevertheless shields these lies, the court breaks sharply from a long line of cases recognizing that the right to free speech does not protect false statements that inflict real harm and serve no legitimate interest."

Alvarez made his claims by way of introducing himself as an elected member of the Three Valleys Municipal Water District in Pomona, Calif. There is nothing to suggest that he received anything in exchange or that listeners especially believed him.

The government had defended the law as necessary to punish impostors to protect the integrity of military medals.

But Justices Stephen Breyer and Elena Kagan said in a separate opinion that there were ways for the government to stop liars "in less restrictive ways." One possibility would be to "insist upon a showing that the false statement caused a specific harm or at least was material, or focus its coverage on lies most likely to be harmful or on contexts where such lies are most likely to cause harm," Breyer said.

Civil liberties groups, writers, publishers and news media outlets, including The Associated Press, told the justices they worried that the law, and especially the administration's defense of it, could lead to more attempts by government to regulate speech.



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Re: PROOF... the SCOTUS is screwed up..
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2012, 10:37:53 AM »
Tommyt says;
  " The high court has in recent years rejected limits on speech. The justices struck down a federal ban on videos showing graphic violence against animals and rejected a state law intended to keep violent video games away from children. The court also turned aside the attempt by the father of a dead Marine to sue fundamentalist church members who staged a mocking protest at his son's funeral. In 1989, the court said t  Constitution protects the burning of the American flag."
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    I hasten to add, that is not a "church" in the usual sense..I understand it to be one extended family which calls itself a church.
  Yes, the court said the constitution protects burning the US flag, because to do so is "freedom of speech".  That sure is rich..since they let stand a law which says burning a cross is a punishable crime.  Is that not "freedom of speech" also then ?
   I'm not in favor of burning either one..but to have a court which over the years has been increasingly hostile to the cross, come up with such a paradox..seems hypocritical in the least !
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