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Heck, let's just start at twenty percent, and go from there.

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Obama has not cut defense spending during his first term. Under Obama, defense spending has been (in billions) $794 in 2009, $847.2 in 2010, $878.5 in 2011, and $902.2 in 2012. It’s slated to be $901.4 in 2013.
Mitt Romney wants to increase defense spending substantially. Romney speaks only of increasing defense spending further.


Barney Frank wants to reduce defense spending significantly. He says "We could easily save more than $200 billion without in any way endangering our security." He also says "Let's bring the troops home." He’s on the right track, only he is not radical enough.


Harry Truman cut defense spending by very large amounts after World War II. Defense spending during that war peaked out at $93.7 billion in 1945. By 1947, it was down to $22.8b. In 1948, it was $19.7b.


The Truman reductions in defense spending in percentage terms were over 75 percent. Cuts of this size can be done again today without loss in security. Whatever dangers and threats America faces in 2012 are not worse than in 1947 and 1948.


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A 75 percent cut in defense spending accompanied by a tax cut that returns the money to the private sector will provide a huge stimulus to economic growth. Returning the money via tax cuts is absolutely essential to generate growth, because then the money can, if desired, go into capital accumulation. Merely shifting defense spending into other categories of government spending like education and social spending will be totally useless in generating economic growth since these forms of spending, being consumption financed by taxes, do not create capital goods and economic growth.


I have chosen 75 percent in this article because Harry Truman did this. By comparing his era to ours, I hoped to make clear that we know such cuts are feasible because today’s threats are no worse than in his days. What America did two generations ago can be done again. Furthermore, defense cuts are but one step among many that can get America on the right track.
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Here is a novel idea!
 Why don`t we just also cut back all the give away programs to the illegals, cut out the frigging fraud in medicare, medicaid, and other government give away programs??
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Why. Because the war machine dollars are easy and plentiful... Low-hanging' fruit. Then work on the others.
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The operative word in my post was "also"!!
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Say we do slash the defense budget 600-700 billion. With the amount of debt we are in that is nothing. Many programs would have to be eliminated and many of the ones left would have to have deep cuts. Our government is who bankrupt us, and to think they will fix anything as far as our debt goes is nothing but a pipe dream. We continue to have ideas as to what spending, government should cut, but forget the fact that government will never do anything to reduce the size of itself or dissolve parts of itself. Government will continue to borrow, and print money until the dollar is worthless, and the whole mess collapses.
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Here is a novel idea!
 Why don`t we just also cut back all the give away programs to the illegals, cut out the frigging fraud in medicare, medicaid, and other government give away programs??

 
STREAK. Agreed Sir. Add to it eliminating worthless govt agencies and depts, stop feeding and caring for all those countries who hate us. Let congress meet for a week every 3 mo and get pd for days worked. Grounding obummer, michelle, hillary, and nancy would save big bucks too. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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None of the above will happen. The gutless republican party turned it's back on the only candidate that would have instituted any of the above.
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52%  of every tax dollar collected goes to DoD, which I'm told has a budget exceeding all the other defense budgets in the world combined. Meanwhile austerity agents, Boehner, Cantor, Ryan, etc...want to throw the elderly in the fire and cut medicare and SS so they can maintain there wars and intervention policies; and essentially roll back time till before Christ and enact 'bonded' slavery again. .
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Fifty two cents of dollar collected? I did not know it was THAT high. Plenty to cut there, and we will still be safe from invading armies, even if our ability to force our will world-wide might be somewhat diminished.


There was a time when I would have called someone who advocated cutting military spending a liberal and a traitor.... Those days are past.
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52%  of every tax dollar collected goes to DoD, which I'm told has a budget exceeding all the other defense budgets in the world combined. Meanwhile austerity agents, Boehner, Cantor, Ryan, etc...want to throw the elderly in the fire and cut medicare and SS so they can maintain there wars and intervention policies; and essentially roll back time till before Christ and enact 'bonded' slavery again. .
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Fifty two cents of dollar collected? I did not know it was THAT high. Plenty to cut there, and we will still be safe from invading armies, even if our ability to force our will world-wide might be somewhat diminished.


There was a time when I would have called someone who advocated cutting military spending a liberal and a traitor.... Those days are past.
So, if the defense budget was slashed 75%, would you trust the present adminstration to take that money and apply it to paying off some of these budget problems ??
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So, if the defense budget was slashed 75%, would you trust the present adminstration to take that money and apply it to paying off some of these budget problems ??
Not near as much as I would trust me or Ron Paul... .
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So, if the defense budget was slashed 75%, would you trust the present adminstration to take that money and apply it to paying off some of these budget problems ??
Not near as much as I would trust me or Ron Paul... .
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