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« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2004, 03:57:00 AM »
when we had the postal match before the shotguns shot at 50yds and they shot a three shot group.i think that would be good as far as i am concerned.like you said i was the only one to send a target in shot with a shotgun.

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« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2004, 06:00:59 AM »
bbt

Any bpcr shooters out there with feedback on a postal match class?

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« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2004, 12:32:21 PM »
My opinion :?  is that a 3 X 5 card with an X can bee seen and hit at 100 yards.  If we BPCR shooters simply follow the rules that are the same as for the rest of the group we should be ok.  Hell 3x5 is about as tight as I'm shooting at this time anyway :roll: .
The scoreing if done by class/caleber could  simply show the best examples from each.  When you receive my card it will be accompanied with a photo taken at the time and a notation saying conditions, load and set-up.  Open sights and cast bullets over Black Powder when compaired to the others could be fun for the more modern shooters ito look at if only in comparison of how far we/they have come since the "good old days".
For me the fun is the shooting and the fact that we all (H&R and NEF) shooters represent a conceipt/thinking  that a single shot rifle regardless of the caliber, is the true test of our sport and is really what I think its all about.......anyway I think this is great.  Thank you for doing this.

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« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2004, 12:39:16 PM »
:eek: 5 Rounds from a .45-70 on a 3X5 card! :eek:  :eek: Won't be much left to measure :grin:
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« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2004, 04:16:20 PM »
Quote from: Badnews Bob
:eek: 5 Rounds from a .45-70 on a 3X5 card! :eek:  :eek: Won't be much left to measure :grin:


 :grin:  Well, then I'm going to have to get me one of them 45-70's!!!  8)

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« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2004, 05:48:12 AM »
btt  8)
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« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2004, 12:17:24 PM »
When the rules are finilized please make a seperate post of what they are  :? so as not to add to my confussion :-)
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« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2004, 12:56:44 PM »
Here are the official rules for all categories:

Centerfire Rifle:
(.223REM, .223 AI, .22-250, 25-06, 270WIN, .280 REM, 30-30, 30-06, 45-70?)
3X5 card for target
Range- 100 yards
Stable rest allowed
Optics allowed
If I get enough cards I will try to split this into to categories. 22 centerfire up to the quarter bores, and 270 and up.

Centerfire Pistol Calibers (357, 357 MAX, 44 MAG, .444 Marlin, 45-70?)
3X5 card for target
Range 50 yards
Stable rest allowed
Optics allowed

Rimfire rifle:
(.17 HRM, .22 RF, .22WRM)
3X5 card for Target
RAnge 50 yards
Stable rest allowed
Optics allowed

Shotgun:
(slug guns)
3X5 card for target
Range 50 yards
Stable rest allowed
Optics allowed

Muzzleloader:
(.50 cal sabot, or full caliber balls, and conicals)
3X5 card for target
Range 50 yards
STable rest allowed
Optics allowed

Information to include on all cards:

Nickname on the board (required)
Real name (optional)
Date target was shot (required)
Weather conditions (required)
Firearm type; Centerfire, rimfire, shotgun, muzzleloader(required)
Firearm model; ie Ultra Varmit, Ultra Hunter, Handi Rifle etc (required)
Caliber (required)
Load Data (optional)
Optics (optional)
Modifications done to firearm (optional)

Cards to be postmarked by May15

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« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2004, 01:08:15 PM »
How many rounds per card or cal or something :?  never done this before.  8)
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« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2004, 01:16:50 PM »
Jeff223....how about some slack if not for the BPCR then how about open sights.  Hell your 223 will all fit inside one of my 38-55's.......anyway, whatever, I'll be ther just for the fun and companionship.....after all is the participation and not the prize that is the central issue......thanks :D

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« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2004, 02:07:09 PM »
What's the use?  Jeff will just win again. :money:
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« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2004, 02:28:47 PM »
these were 5 shot groups the last few times we had a postal match except for the slug guns and they were 3 shot groups.i dont think there will be any slug guns shooting this anyway but you never know.as far as i am concerned the shotguns (slugguns) can shoot 3 shot groups.like someone said and i think it was scruffy the slugguns arnt cheap to shoot at $2.00 a shot or a little less.

i copied these rules from page one so people could see them.

remember this is just for fun and do your best.

i  will try to shoot some tight groups again.going to shoot the 223 and 30-30 this time.working on some spitzer loads for the old 30-30.cant wait until this weather breaks.

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« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2004, 03:39:30 PM »
Hmmm... seperate classes spoiled my prize thought... I was going to donate an RCBS 5-0-2 beam scale to the winner (just bought a 10-10) but looks like there is going to be a winner in every class so that won't float.  Oh well, good idea at least.

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« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2004, 04:28:29 PM »
Haywood, we could do an overall winner......Or you could just donate that to the judge :-D
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« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2004, 04:43:44 PM »
Fellars: This ain't about winning or losing, it's more about participation. That's why when this was started it was decided not to have prizes, it's about showing what these little rifles can do. Yes, Jeff 223 might win again, but you won't know if you don't shoot. Besides it gives you a great excuse to get out to the range. I've heard the ol'saying that goes trying is the first step to failure, it's not true McGee, not trying is assured failure. Good Luck, There Are No Losers!! <>< :D Duce:
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« Reply #45 on: February 10, 2004, 04:59:19 PM »
8) Now I no this may give me something to do this weekend :-D
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« Reply #46 on: February 11, 2004, 02:18:15 AM »
If I ever get my 219 Zipper to shot good I am going to get in. If
it is allowed  It was 22 hor.  Marv :D

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« Reply #47 on: February 11, 2004, 03:13:03 AM »
:D JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I PLAN TO PARTICIPATE IN THE POSTAL MATCH WITH 12GA SABOT SLUGS FROM MY TRACKER II, AND POSSIBLY MY HANDI 7mm-08, IF I CAN FINISH MY LOAD SEARCH SOON ENOUGH.
I CAN LOAD THE LYMAN CAST 12GA SABOT SLUG  FOR $0.59 EACH. :P

JEFF223, CAN YOU E-MAIL OR PM ME THE ADDRESS FOR THE MATCH?
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« Reply #48 on: February 11, 2004, 03:21:25 AM »
Quote from: offhand35
:D I CAN LOAD THE LYMAN CAST 12GA SABOT SLUG  FOR $0.59 EACH. :P

JEFF223, CAN YOU E-MAIL OR PM ME THE ADDRESS FOR THE MATCH?
THANKS!


Offhand35, the cards are going to Wlscott.  You can send him an email  at wscott@ptsi.net and he'll send you his address.

59 cents a slug, that's awesome!

Marv, you can enter any nef/H&R, regardless of rechambering.

I'm very intereseted in you results.  Do you plan to chrony any of you loads out the 22" barrel?

I'll cut and paste stuff from this post and form a new "final draft" copy today sometime.

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« Reply #49 on: February 11, 2004, 03:41:50 AM »
Everyone keeps talking about Jeff223 winning all the postal matches.  But it seems like someone else won the first one we had.......

Who was that guy anyway??? :)  :)
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« Reply #50 on: February 11, 2004, 03:56:07 AM »
would that be you Wes?
yes Wes won that one and im sure there will be a new winner again.there will be some real good groups turned just like before.the 223s and the 243s shooters should show some great groups again.the big game rifles will show somewhat bigger groups but you never know.someone just might set up a deer rifle with a varmint scope just to see.

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« Reply #51 on: February 11, 2004, 11:34:35 AM »
Why, yes Jeff....it would be :lol:

Actually, I'm not bragging (ok just a little bit), mostly I'm just pointing out that not necessarily the same person has to win every time.  

Jeff is good, and his gun is plenty accurate, but you never know unless you try him :?
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« Reply #52 on: February 11, 2004, 01:08:33 PM »
Okay guys, count me in. I'm just getting my .223 act together, but the May deadline should get me there. I'm just wondering what the groups looked like from the last two winners? It's good to know what the competition is like. When you first posted a Postal Match, I thought we would be shooting at stamps.  :-D
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« Reply #53 on: February 12, 2004, 11:00:02 AM »
Here's a couple from Jeff223 from the last postal match, he no longer has the 22lr sportster


I don't know the group size, but they look small.

edit: man, doesn't that 223 bullet look like it's going to fall out of the shell?  

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« Reply #54 on: February 12, 2004, 12:15:01 PM »
Nice groups, maybe I don't want to embarrass myself by getting in this.  :oops:  I have to make a decission, on whether to take my .223 apart, and do the trigger, or wait until the match is done. I need to figure return time from the gunsmith in case I mess it up and have to bring it to him in a bag.  :lol:
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« Reply #55 on: February 12, 2004, 02:59:06 PM »
Just wanted to ask is any one allowed to join in I read and understand the rules only thing is do you have to reload or can you use manufacterd ammo I dont reload , about a month ago got a  handi in 44mag love it so much allready went out and got a 30-06 like to get 223 next great rifles  8)

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« Reply #56 on: February 12, 2004, 03:40:52 PM »
Ranger, you can shoot any ammo you want for the match.  Don't worry about handicapping yourself by shooting factory rounds.  I won the first match we had shooting Winchester Valu Pak 45 gr hollow points.  Fact is, I still haven't gotten my hand loads to shoot as good as those factory bullets did :cry:

The only rule in this thing that is hard and fast is that the group MUST be shot with a NEF or H&R gun.  

Good luck and good shooting :wink:
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« Reply #57 on: February 12, 2004, 05:29:25 PM »
Yes Scruffy I plan on Chrony the 219 Zipper when I get it to
shooting good,  That is to be seen, I am working on it as i have time and no wind, And not to cold maybe by May i'll have it going.  Marv.

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« Reply #58 on: February 13, 2004, 03:18:41 PM »
:D HEY, JEFF223!
WHAT CARTRIDGE SHOT SO WELL IN THAT 22.R SPORTSTER?! :shock:

I JUST ORDERED MINE, AND WAS WONDERING WHAT DIRECTION TO START IN MY LOAD SEARCH!  REGULAR VELOCITY, HYPERVELOCITY, OR SUBSONIC......

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« Reply #59 on: February 13, 2004, 03:45:38 PM »
it shot the cci mini mags good.i shot about all the ammo out there except the high dollar stuff.the wolf match target shot good to