US ship fires on boat off dubai, 1 dead.

[powderman]

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  Official: US ship fires on boat off Dubai, 1 deadBy ADAM SCHRECK | Associated Press – 50 mins ago     Emirati police and other officials …     DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — The U.S. Navy says a security team aboard one of its ships fired on a small boat after it disregarded warnings and raced toward the vessel near the Dubai port of Jebel Ali..
Lt Greg Raelson, a spokesman for the Navy's Bahrain-based 5th Fleet, says sailors aboard the USNS Rappahannock issued a series of warnings Monday before resorting to lethal force using a .50-caliber machine gun.
A U.S. consular official and an Emirati rescue official in Dubai told The Associated Press that one person was killed and three were wounded in the shooting. They spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the incident between the two allies.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.
An American vessel fired on a boat Monday off the coast of the United Arab Emirates, killing one person and injuring three, according to a U.S. consular official in Dubai.
The official gave no other details, but it appeared the boat could have been mistaken as a threat in Gulf waters not far from Iran's maritime boundaries.
Dozens of police and other Emirati officials crowded around the white-hulled boat, which sat docked after the incident in a small Dubai port used by fishermen and sailors.
The boat appeared to be a civilian vessel about 30 feet (9 meters) long and powered by three outboard motors. Similar boats are used for fishing in the region, though Iran's Revolutionary Guard also employs relatively small, fast-moving craft in the Gulf.
Rescue workers were seen carrying one person in a body bag off the boat and placing it in an ambulance as fishermen looked on. Officials moved the boat from the harbor shortly afterward.
An Emirati rescue official at the scene confirmed the casualty toll. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the incident between the two allies.
U.S. military vessels routinely cross paths with Iranian ships in international waters in the Gulf without incident, but speed boats from Iran's Revolutionary Guard have passed close to U.S. ships in incidents that have raised alarm in Washington.
In early 2008, then President Bush accused Iran of a "provocative act" after five small Iranian craft buzzed around the destroyer USS Hopper.
Tensions are elevated in the Gulf after Iran last week renewed threats to close the strategic Strait of Hormuz — the route for one-fifth of the world's oil — in retaliation for tighter sanctions over Tehran's nuclear program. The U.S. recently boosted its naval presence in the Gulf with additional minesweepers and other warships.
The U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet, based in Bahrain, said it was investigating the Monday shooting. The U.S. Embassy in Abu Dhabi had no immediate comment, referring all questions to the Navy.
Emirati officials could not be reached for comment.

[SHOOTALL]

Water Skeet . nice shooting , worked out better than The Cole did !

[Three44s]

Good on the US Navy to not take unreasonable risks.


I do look for O'bumer to want a dust up with Iran just before the Nov. '12 election day however .... more to beat his boney chest about ......




Three 44s

[powderman]

Good on the US Navy to not take unreasonable risks.


I do look for O'bumer to want a dust up with Iran just before the Nov. '12 election day however .... more to beat his boney chest about ......




Three 44s
 
 
YEP, no doubt obummer will dream up some kind of a major catastrophe just before the election. POWDERMAN. 

[BBF]

So when Iranian Navy speed boats get close to a Navy ship nobody gets shot at. An unarmed Indian fishing boat however gets the Bullet treatment. Interesting!

[SHOOTALL]

Different captians in different situations  and nither you or I know how close those speed bosts were to getting shot at. Also different ships have different equipment to monitor closing ships and the one captian may have known the speed boat posted no danger while the other captian had to make a judgement call.
Wasn't it a fishing boat that hit the Cole ? OK don't go off on profiling ............

[DDZ]

So when Iranian Navy speed boats get close to a Navy ship nobody gets shot at. An unarmed Indian fishing boat however gets the Bullet treatment. Interesting!

Navy says a security team aboard one of its ships fired on a small boat after it disregarded warnings and raced toward the vessel near the Dubai port of Jebel Ali..
 
 Wonder what the idiots driving the boat thought was going to happen? The navy ship even fired warning shots in the water in front of the boat. My guess is they got what they deserved.
 
 So did we expect the navy ship to wait until the boat pulled along side to see if there was a possible bomb on board? How did they know the boat was not going to slam right into them. Terrorists do that kind of thing. 
What do you think the plan of action should have been, BBF? 

I kind of think that if any of captains of the navy ships thought their ship was in any danger, the Iranian boats would have been turned to rubble. I figure the guys on the Iranian boats knew that also.

[BBF]

So when Iranian Navy speed boats get close to a Navy ship nobody gets shot at. An unarmed Indian fishing boat however gets the Bullet treatment. Interesting!

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I kind of think that if any of captains of the navy ships thought their ship was in any danger, the Iranian boats would have been turned to rubble. I figure the guys on the Iranian boats knew that also.

If those Iranian boats would have gotten the Order to ram the ship, do you think they would have hesitated one moment of doing it. After all Muslims are known to prefer to live than to blow themselves up against an enemy.
 
I can't tell you what my plans would have been because I wasn't there. At what distance was that small boat engaged? Knowing that would have been a key point to any of my decisions.

[DDZ]

So when Iranian Navy speed boats get close to a Navy ship nobody gets shot at. An unarmed Indian fishing boat however gets the Bullet treatment. Interesting!

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I kind of think that if any of captains of the navy ships thought their ship was in any danger, the Iranian boats would have been turned to rubble. I figure the guys on the Iranian boats knew that also.

If those Iranian boats would have gotten the Order to ram the ship, do you think they would have hesitated one moment of doing it. After all Muslims are known to prefer to live than to blow themselves up against an enemy.
 
I can't tell you what my plans would have been because I wasn't there. At what distance was that small boat engaged? Knowing that would have been a key point to any of my decisions.

The Iranian boats may have tried to ram the ship, but would not have even come close to accomplishing that. They would have been blown out of the water at any attempt of trying that.

Does it really matter what the distance was? It was heading straight toward the naval ship, it was warned to turn, and warning shots were fired into the water in front of it, and yet it still didn't slow or turn. I can't see how you are trying to find fault in the decision to stop it with gun fire. I trust that the naval captains on the ships in dangerous waters know what they are doing.

[BBF]

Just like that Captain knew it was a warplane instead a commercial airliner he blew out of the sky.
 
As far as warning shots being fired in front of the oncoming fishing boat and the "fact" it kept coming,
that IMO is pure fabricated Bs!

[powderman]

BUGEYE. Good question. I'd imagine a burst from twin 50s would make quite a splash and easily seen. POWDERMAN. 

[BBF]

You really believe that an Indian fisherman would deliberately keep driving his boat into oncoming bullets.??

[powderman]

You really believe that an Indian fisherman would deliberately keep driving his boat into oncoming bullets.??

 
Some of them are muslim. YES, I do. POWDERMAN. 

[DDZ]

All reports I've read stated that at least one warning shot was fired. The only ones that say no warning was given or warning shots fired are the survivors that were on the shot up boat. I guess they very well couldn't claim their plan was to ram the navel ship.
 I would guess that someone traveling toward a navy boat at a high rate of speed would put them in the mentally handicapped category, or they had evil intent. If they were mentally handicapped, they had no business driving a 30 foot boat with three outboards on it. I figure there had to be one sane person on board, that would curb any thoughts of speeding directly at a navy boat with a 50 cal. mounted on its deck. So that pretty much leaves evil intent. BTW, the boat was 1,000 yards and still speeding toward the navy boat when it was shot down. How fast will 3 outboards drive a 30 foot boat? 60-70 mph? 1000 yards could be covered in less than 30 seconds. Not much decision time.     

[BBF]

In flat calm waters a 22 cal rimfire bullet's impact close by would be noticeable. In the swells of open water the impact of a single 50 cal bullet from a boat travelling at speed would not be.

[SHOOTALL]

One would think that big bang would draw attention even if the water was rough  hey that big gun is pointing at us , WHATS UP ?

[powderman]

I flat calm waters a 22 cal rimfire bullet's impact close by would be noticeable. In the swells of open water the impact of a single 50 cal bullet from a boat travelling at speed would not be.

 
You honestly believe that a 50 cal burst would not be noticed?? Get real. POWDERMAN. 

[Cuts Crooked]

I flat calm waters a 22 cal rimfire bullet's impact close by would be noticeable. In the swells of open water the impact of a single 50 cal bullet from a boat travelling at speed would not be.

You ever been present when "Ma Duece" was fired?

[DDZ]

I flat calm waters a 22 cal rimfire bullet's impact close by would be noticeable. In the swells of open water the impact of a single 50 cal bullet from a boat travelling at speed would not be.

Sooo.... these guys were just out for a pleasure cruse, doing some fishing, and racing straight toward a navy boat that was carrying oil, with their outboards wide open, was just part of the pleasure outing.

[billy_56081]

Tracer rounds show up very well day or night, and it is not the sound of the gun firing that is so noticable but the crack of the bullet as it passes.

[Cabin4]

I'm sure the Navy has footage on this. That will likely be released later and many questions will be answered.

[SHOOTALL]

They were not racing to a navy ship they were racing to the virgins they are suppose to get .

[BBF]

How much do you "hear over the noise of three outboards, rush of water and wind?
 
Let me tell you from first hand experience.  Damn little !!
 
In the above I read of "One" warning shot being fired, not a burst, that came later. Dunno if tracers were part of the belt. Tracers are  very visible when seen sideways or from behind, not so much coming at you.
All the rest of that as TM7 writes.
 
Lastly, it was a fishboat, no explosives no Iranian Commandos and maybe no fish.

[SHOOTALL]

How much do you "hear over the noise of three outboards, rush of water and wind?
 
Let me tell you from first hand experience.  Damn little !! I would depend on wheather it was a 4 stroke or not. If in fact it was a four stroke they could hear more wind noise. If 2 stroke with sound package maybe even quieter . I would think if they were military type craft they would be one or the other. Truth nither you or I know what they had so its a moot point.
 
In the above I read of "One" warning shot being fired, not a burst, that came later. Dunno if tracers were part of the belt. Tracers are  very visible when seen sideways or from behind, not so much coming at you.Of course the ones that pass that close will have a sonic boom then you will be looking from the same perspective the shooter is looking  should be easy to pick up.
All the rest of that as TM7 writes.
 
Lastly, it was a fishboat, no explosives no Iranian Commandos and maybe no fish.I fish from a fishing boat in the Chesapeke Bay with lots of navy ships . You would have to be blind to miss one. The ships are loud with speakes going etc. There is a place in the bay with target ships when they shoot its loud at lest back in the day it was. I live over 20 miles from Fort Picket and can hear then shoot so 50's are loud real loud.
I support our Navy and do not wish to see another USS Cole . BTW what was the craft that attacked the Cole ?

[SHOOTALL]

And your being over taken by one of the quietest craft afloat has something to do with a craft headed stright tward a Navy ship ? Also you or I have no idea what type engines were on the craft in question , they could be of a military type that are very quiet. And many 4 stroke engines today have insulsation packages and muffler systems that make them very quiet.

[billy_56081]

I bet Needles wasn't trying to "imply" anything shootall!

As I said tracers are very visible during the day and the supersonic crack of a 50 cal round is noticable even in the heat of battle.

[SHOOTALL]

Outboards can be quiet vs IB's I have spent time with both .

[BBF]

I suppose it is possible for Indian fishermen to ave the most quiet and newest models on their boat.
I would think it is much more likely that they had older two strokes.
 
This will all go away quietly with a generous amount of $$ to the survivors and widow of the slain.

[SHOOTALL]

If in fact they are fishermen 

[SHOOTALL]

Sorry it dosen't look like tankers we see in the waters around the East Coast and bay areas. None I see have USN numbers on the bow or the deck equipment and armament on board like in the picture unless they are navy tankers. But looking at the number of hijacked tankers in todays world it would seem people would stay away !