The gift that just keeps giving

[ironglow]

  Saddam's vice air marshall, Gen Georges Sada, explained in his book just how Saddam (the other Hussein) transferred his WMD to Syria..while Turkey stalled our troops from entering Iraq, until long after our forces had entered to the heart of Baghdad, from Kuwait.
   Sada is one who would know FOR SURE what happened...but the conspirobots didn't want the truth..so they made up other scenarios.
    Today, Assad, dictator in Syria has plenty of poison gasses he can deploy against his fellow Syrians.  Ah; the gift that keeps on giving..   Especially notice paragraph #4 to end;
   http://news.investors.com/article/618875/201207191902/syria-chemical-weapons-came-from-iraq-.htm
 
   ..But some folks LIKE being in denial..
 
 

[BUGEYE]

  Saddam's vice air marshall, Gen Georges Sada, explained in his book just how Saddam (the other Hussein) transferred his WMD to Syria..while Turkey stalled our troops from entering Iraq, until long after our forces had entered to the heart of Baghdad, from Kuwait.
   Sada is one who would know FOR SURE what happened...but the conspirobots didn't want the truth..so they made up other scenarios.
    Today, Assad, dictator in Syria has plenty of poison gasses he can deploy against his fellow Syrians.  Ah; the gift that keeps on giving..   Especially notice paragraph #4 to end;
   http://news.investors.com/article/618875/201207191902/syria-chemical-weapons-came-from-iraq-.htm
 
   ..But some folks LIKE being in denial..

sissy liberals are so stupid. hussein used the stuff on the Kurds ans then slipped it out of town,
anyone paying attention knows what happened to the WsMD

[saddlebum]

Good posts, guys. Denial of the truth is a common tactic of the left to further their ends of perpetuating their lies about Bush and the right. The satellite pictures of the trucks moving the WMDs under the guise of humanitarian aid are online. Walid Shoebot says it's common knowledge in the middle east that the WMDs were moved to Syria. Hard to believe that this is even argued about anymore.................

[powderman]

Good posts guys, 3 out of 4 aint bad. The liberal democrats  know thats what happened but it doesn't fit their hate America pro muslim agenda. POWDERMAN. 

[Cuts Crooked]

Excellent. So if GWB was wrong......he's wrong. And if he was right.......he's wrong! And if we had hit those trucks moving humanitarian aid....Bush would have been accused of an atrocity!

No win! Bring on the tinfoil hats!

[coyotejoe]

Seems to me that regardless of whether WMDs were "moved" or never existed at all it's for certain that Bush's war did not make the U.S. nor the world a safer place.

[saddlebum]

Good posts, guys. Denial of the truth is a common tactic of the left to further their ends of perpetuating their lies about Bush and the right. The satellite pictures of the trucks moving the WMDs under the guise of humanitarian aid are online. Walid Shoebot says it's common knowledge in the middle east that the WMDs were moved to Syria. Hard to believe that this is even argued about anymore.................

I'm not sticking up for Bush and his war. I am just speaking to the lies about WMDs. I was against the war from the start. It IS possible to stand up for the truth and not support or agree with Bush. I'm living proof!

[Cuts Crooked]

Do you deny that if Bush had attacked and destroyed those trucks...at any time...that he would not have been accused of an atrocity?

BTW, We don't know that your claim is "fact"!


I think this is gonna require another truck load of tinfoil.........but then a lot of conspiracy theory things do.

"Who knows, Jerry? Who knows what we know? Who knows Jerry?"

[powderman]

It was widely reported just before we went in to iraq that sattelite pics clearly showed convoys of russian trucks going from iraq into syria and that they believed were hauling saddams wmds. The dems even said it back then. POWDERMAN. 

[rio grande]

I know where the nuclear weapons are in the mideast.  In Israel.
Now Israel has hundreds of them and various delivery systems, has not signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, and has threatened to use them.

I'm also aware that stockpiles of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons are right here in the good ol' USA.

I'd certainly not condone the use of these immoral weapons of indiscriminate mass destruction and terror by anyone.
But if you are going to raise an alarm, be fair about it, raise it without hypocrisy.

[Cuts Crooked]

Do you deny that if Bush had attacked and destroyed those trucks...at any time...that he would not have been accused of an atrocity?

BTW, We don't know that your claim is "fact"!


I think this is gonna require another truck load of tinfoil.........but then a lot of conspiracy theory things do.

"Who knows, Jerry? Who knows what we know? Who knows Jerry?"

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 Huh.. .   One main purpose of the Iracq invasion was to get WMD. What's the difference if you pot shot trucks then or later when destroying the whole country..? You completely ignore the hairtrigger zionist who never allow these alleged WMD moved closer to isreal,,,never.  This is not so much as "mission accomplished' as it is "MISSION FUBAR"
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 Besides there's a lot of ways to deal with truck convoys besides filming then and then throwing it up in the face of Americans again and again.
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 This thread is about a faction that puts American interest second to zionist interest.  We need less isreal firsters and more American Firsters_ _here and in Congress..!
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No this thread is about the fact that Iraq did indeed have WDMs, and that they are now in Syria.

[kevinsmith5]

Rio,,,thanx ...with certainty we know who has nukes, and WMD, and threatened to use them in the ME,,,if they haven't already...we know who has chemical and biological weapons with certainty as well. We know what country has never signed non-proliferation treaties or been inspected_ _ever. We know what country's calling card is 'false flag' attacks; and we know what country's warlord Prime Minsister is a known uranium smuggler. But facts, don't matter to firsters.
 

No this thread is about the fact that Iraq did indeed have WDMs, and that they are now in Syria. You trying to change the topic doesn't make any difference to that discussion.

Funny, I've noted that you frequently try to hijack the topic whenever the middleast is brought up.

Cuts...Disgreeing with the premise or thesis of a thread is not hyjacking the thread: such a charge is intellectual dishonesty. Forums are not mutual admiration or mutual approval societies for somebody's rational scheme of things.>> they're discussion groups,,,you know where things get discussed and knocked around..
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Disgreeing with the thesis of the thread and the so-called facts in it,,,is just disagreement and not believing/approving that thesis or those facts; and likely means other facts could rule the truth.. If you run out of argument to support your thesis and resort to such tactics,  than you have lost the debate...by the actual rules of debate!
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 One more time> >__ Facts are no WMD were collected in Iracq,,,a main reason for invading that country in the first place..  WMD were allegedly filmed being shipped closer to zionist isreal...that would simply never never be allowed by the zionists. "Mission Accomplished' was actually ''Mission FUBAR",,,only Banksters, the zionists, and Oil companies benefited from the whole fiasco,,,not Americans! ....Stopping or delaying such filmed alleged shipments could have been easily done in any number of ways...maybe as simple as taking out a few bridges or destroying roads, or drone attacks blamed on freedom fighters or terrorists, i.e. depending what flavor you like..  My guess is isrealis in US supplied F14s or Apaches would just blow them up, whatever the case is,,,these filmed WMD would never pass closer to isreal.,, never be allowed..A double agent writing a book about WMD going to Syria does not prove much of anything, except how gullible some people are and how quick others are at expanding perpetual GWOT on whims.....Remember, The operative rule in perpetual GWOT is 'first you have to manufacture terror first....'.
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Well, you firsters and GWOTers can return to your war talk and other religious rivalry mechanations, but remember there's a whole lot of Americans and others in the world who aren't buying what you're selling
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I strongly recommend this person simply be ignored. He doesn't even know what the troops sent in to Baghdad had as a mission. It was removing Sadaam from power, which was the mission they accomplished when their commander in chief congratulated them on accomplishing it. His lack of knowldege of simple facts and history (like the baby incubators were in '91, not '03) kinda throws him out as any sort of reliable source of information on the subject.

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[powderman]

You are right.......but what you did was still hijacking, you left the original topic completely and in fact did not address it at all.

 
YEP. Always does. POWDERMAN. 

[magooch]

Seems to me that regardless of whether WMDs were "moved" or never existed at all it's for certain that Bush's war did not make the U.S. nor the world a safer place.

You have got to be kidding.  Saddam Hussein and his two sons were going to be the source of continuing trouble as long as they were sucking air.  The only mistake that GWB made was that he didn't nuke Irak and finish with the whole shebang in 15 minutes.

[gypsyman]

Magooch +1 gypsyman

[nw_hunter]

This topic was a caustic one from it's beginning, and it didn't take long to become a flame war.
Discuss the topic without the....... (censored), No (censored) type of personal baby tantrums, or this one is history.

[ironglow]

IG,,,I had a brother in Iracq as an O-7 for 8 months then 'redeployed' elsewhere. He's a counter-insurgency expert, etc...I won't report on his personal experiences, but suffice to say his views vary from the 'official dogma'.  And very experienced people on an international scale, such as Gen Tommy Franks, Condi Rice, and many others will disagree with your O7 brother, ..so ?
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As for General Sada, one of Sad'dam's right hand men...why did you say he's still breathing air...?  Some of Saddam's right-hand men were working to get Saddam out of power. likely he was one..surely if he was guilty of war crimes, he would have paid the price.  You should have read the book..as I did..
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Your report in post #1 is typical agitprop and propaganda from propamedia accomplices..it even reads like an intell talking points memo that's lamely journalized.  This is to condition the playing field of the gullible on the road to Damascus and to pump more tax dollars dumped on a regime change in Syria...next the road to Teheran leads thru Damascus. This is an elitist Oligarchical agenda. That's my opinion.  I guess you just don't get it.. who is crying for intervention in Syria ?  Certainly not the right !
The guys who intervened in Libya & Egypt to make those areas available to the "Muslim Brotherhood" may have voiced those ideas.. but not the right..
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 It s also my opinion that decent American Citizens need to take back their governmnet from 'firsters', War Party/Intervention Party hacks (as displayed here), IMO..American citizens should take back the government from the socialist/Marxists and George Soros.. and re-create an America First foreign policy for our own interest. And if they want they can do exactly this in the name of Jesus.  Our foreign policy should ALWAYS be in our own interests, not in the interests of oil sheikhs, Chinese commies, illegal aliens or shreiking terrorists.
It would be good to reclaim the government in the name of Jesus, except this nation for the last 40 years, has turned so far away from him and what He teaches, that we would need a complete revival..just to get Him to listen to us ! (2 chronicles 7:14)
     
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...TM7

   ...Back to the thread, the WMD came from Iraq..  Information divulged by the most authoritative source possible or available.