Author Topic: 1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is. (Read 4160 times)

Cabin4 · « **Reply #30 on:** July 29, 2012, 01:19:28 PM »

Quote from: yellowtail3 on July 29, 2012, 10:11:45 AM

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Quote from: powderman on July 29, 2012, 09:39:44 AM
I reckon if high moral standards and strong family values....
yet another poster with that worn-out slogan but doubtful ability to explain what they mean by it, in precise terms...

Its alarming that you need it spelled out for you. Calling it a worn-out slogan....very reveling. Hard to understand how someone can't grasp the concept of placing "value" for ones family.
Hey, now we're gettin' somewhere: does family values mean, placing value on one's family? Well, then... President Obama is a family-values kind of guy, like many of us here- he's got kids, by all accounts loves 'em.

I'd say thanks for the heads-up, Cabin, except there's more to it than you've let on.

Your the one who said it was a worn out slogan and you did not know what it means.

powderman · « **Reply #31 on:** July 29, 2012, 01:55:10 PM »

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Don't need to know him God's word says we shall know them by the fruits they bare.
The man has lied and blamed his way through his first term. He has trampled and ignored the Constitution repeatedly. He uses race, wealth, religion and political stands to divide the people and the country he was elected to lead. Looks like rotten fruit to me.

Pat

HOOKER. Good post Sir, all true. POWDERMAN.

powderman · « **Reply #32 on:** July 29, 2012, 03:21:52 PM »

Agee: 7 Reasons Obama is NOT a Christian, or Fan of Christianity... 7/25/12
B. Christopher Agee over at Western Journalism and Informed Conservative put together an article called "Obama’s Actions Prove Further Shift From Christianity".
I'll summarize his article below and have linked to the sources that he uses.

Obama's first exposure to religion was Islam through his step-father.
By trying to be more accepted, Obama attended Rev. Wright's church which confirmed anti-American sentiments Obama may have heard as a child.
Obama snubbed Easter and Good Friday on the same yea without issuing any statement. Except on Good Friday, he praised Earth Day.
But he is quick to make statements regarding Islam. For Ramadan, he said that he wanted to extend his family’s “warmest wishes to Muslim Americans and Muslims around the world,” ending his statement by saying he “looks forward to again hosting an iftar dinner here at the White House. Ramadan Kareem.”
In 1995, Obama is quoted as saying followers of Jesus show “intolerance, narrow-mindedness, and false nostalgia,”.
Obama speaks of Islam as the “great religion” with a “commitment to justice and progress.”
Obama says the US is "no longer a Christian nation".

Read more at http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2012/20120725006-agee.html#IvjJusfX0ttXCGs4.99

Needles · « **Reply #33 on:** July 29, 2012, 03:33:53 PM »

You have FauxNews and Rush and other regressive propaganda rags to thank for that. What the report really shows is that half (49%) of Americans get their information from reliable sources, and the rest are just looking for anything that supports their fear inspired misconceptions.(OMG! The President is not a Christian! ALL the people who hate him already say so!)

kevinsmith5 · « **Reply #34 on:** July 29, 2012, 03:48:24 PM »

Quote from: yellowtail3 on July 29, 2012, 10:59:36 AM

Quote from: kevinsmith5 on July 29, 2012, 10:49:20 AM
I think one reason many people aren't aware of his religion is that he doesn't have one.
really know that would require knowing the guy himself, don't you think?

Read much? I said "I think". This implies and opinion based on the facts I have observed. Facts you EDITED OUT of the quote of me....watch much MSNBC do you?

Hooker · « **Reply #35 on:** July 29, 2012, 04:06:35 PM »

I get that involuntary smirk on my face when someone says something about a liberal and the only defense that can be offered is to attack the messenger.

Pat

powderman · « **Reply #36 on:** July 29, 2012, 04:18:13 PM »

Quote from: Hooker on July 29, 2012, 04:06:35 PM

I get that involuntary smirk on my face when someone says something about a liberal and the only defense that can be offered is to attack the messenger.

Pat

HOOKER. True. They look but will not see. POWDERMAN.

R.W.Dale · « **Reply #37 on:** July 29, 2012, 04:29:37 PM »

Why Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses are not Christians.

http://4witness.org/mormon/jwldschr.php

Read up boys and then tell us how you can scripturaly support that Mormons are Christians.

"Joseph Smith, Jr (founder of the Mormon religion) claimed that in 1820, Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ appeared to him in a vision proclaiming that "all" the churches of Christianity were "wrong...that all their creeds were an abomination...that those professors were all corrupt...." (Joseph Smith—History 1:19). Likewise, Jehovah's Witnesses have claimed that all of the churches of Christendom are part of false religious Babylon and that one must "come to Jehovah’s organization [i.e., the Watchtower] for salvation."—The Watchtower, November 15, 1981, p. 21"

Mormons don't believe that you're Christians and that your church is a church of the devil. So if you believe otherwise as a member of a real Christian faith not created by a false prophet then the Mormon church can only be one thing.........

That's it guys you're voting for a man who worships a worldly false prophet who is promoting the devils agenda since according to THE REAL BIBLE false prophets all serve his work. HAVE FUN WITH THAT! let me know how that works out for you.

nw_hunter · « **Reply #38 on:** July 29, 2012, 05:35:48 PM »

For the last five or six posts I haven't seen one referring to whether Obama is a Christian or not.............Just starting to throw the insults at one another, and that is a no no!

Needles · « **Reply #39 on:** July 29, 2012, 05:46:20 PM »

The question now is whether Romney is a Christian or not.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #40 on:** July 29, 2012, 05:53:00 PM »

Why would we switch to Romey? There still is no answer to what obama is.

Needles · « **Reply #41 on:** July 29, 2012, 05:58:47 PM »

Christian. I'm in the 49% that DO know!

R.W.Dale · « **Reply #42 on:** July 29, 2012, 07:28:37 PM »

Quote from: Needles on July 29, 2012, 05:46:20 PM

The question now is whether Romney is a Christian or not.

Exactly

If it matters that Obama isn't a Christian then it stands to reason that its just as important that Romney isn't.

Raptor · « **Reply #43 on:** July 29, 2012, 08:38:08 PM »

I don't know about you guys, but I'm just waiting for the day when Romney trys to make it legal for him to take a
second or third wife

??

Graybeard · « **Reply #44 on:** July 30, 2012, 01:34:12 AM »

I find no evidence or reason to believe either of them are CHRISTians. Obama seems a rather unreligious person at best but all evidence I've seen point to him as a closet muzlim lying to us about being otherwise as members of that cult are allowed to do when it suits the greater purpose of islam. He's not an American citizen natural born or otherwise.

powderman · « **Reply #45 on:** July 30, 2012, 02:00:09 AM »

The subject of course is imam obamas religion or lack of. He cancelled Ntl day of prayer 3 yrs straight then allowed it for election year. Basicly ignores Christian holidays, including Easter. Banned Rev Graham from the whitehouse for using Jesus name, refused to speak at a major univ til the sign of Jesus was removed. He teaches his children that if they get pregnant and don't want the baby, just kill it. He teaches his children that gay marriage is just another lifestyle and it's OK with God, it is not, they are abominations in Gods eyes. Christians?? Not even close.
He has cult prayer meetings in the whitehouse weekly, he observes all of the muslim unholy days, he has pretty well bowed to and kissed the hand of every major muslim in the world, and he provides a daily feast, at our expense, for the entire month of rummydum for his muslim brothers, besides stating that America is a muslim country, and that he too is muslim, besides providing aid and military support to his muslin brotherhood taking over various muslim nations. I could go on but it shouldn't be necessary. Why don't you obama supporters start a thread more suited to your dislikes of Romney?? this ones about imam obama. POWDERMAN.

gypsyman · « **Reply #46 on:** July 30, 2012, 02:20:01 AM »

Obama's religion is whatever his audience wants it to be. He panders to what he thinks he should say at the time. He hasn't made much effort to go to any church,mosk,synagogue,whatever since being elected. I believe his religion is big govt. and trying to get as many people dependent on it as possible. gypsyman

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #47 on:** July 30, 2012, 02:26:41 AM »

We don't need to be concerned with Obama's religion; he's the President, not the Pope.

Commander in Chief, not Head Pastor

No theocracy, this... not yet, anyhow... .

Cabin4 · « **Reply #48 on:** July 30, 2012, 03:18:31 AM »

Quote from: yellowtail3 on July 30, 2012, 02:26:41 AM

We don't need to be concerned with Obama's religion; he's the President, not the Pope.

Commander in Chief, not Head Pastor

No theocracy, this... not yet, anyhow... .

Apparently obama feels differant about that. Otherwise, he would not be lying to the American people so much about it. His religion may be in question here, but not his racist views. Those are pretty clear.

tobster · « **Reply #49 on:** July 30, 2012, 03:28:36 AM »

Make that 1/2 plus 1 (me)- unless narcissism can be considered a religion.

lgm270 · « **Reply #50 on:** July 30, 2012, 03:49:25 AM »

Quote from: Cabin4 on July 30, 2012, 03:18:31 AM

Quote from: yellowtail3 on July 30, 2012, 02:26:41 AM
We don't need to be concerned with Obama's religion; he's the President, not the Pope.

Commander in Chief, not Head Pastor

No theocracy, this... not yet, anyhow... .

Apparently obama feels differant about that. Otherwise, he would not be lying to the American people so much about it. His religion may be in question here, but not his racist views. Those are pretty clear.

Obama's own book, Dreams From My Father, affirms his endorsement of the Black Value System, (see Page 284). The Black Value System is based on the Black Liberation Theology of James Cone, a black racist who hates white people, hates America and Western Civilization. Black liberation theology is based on the premise that oppressed "people of color" are more favorably regarded by God and Christ, and that white people are the oppressors and are morally inferior to blacks in the eyes of God. Of course there is no biblical support for this theory of black racial supremacy. [The only theory of racial supremacy set forth in the Bible is the Doctrine of Jewish supremacy set forth in the Old Testament.]

Reverend Wright appeared on Sean Hannity's show on Fox and openly admitted his use of the Black Liberation Theology of James Cone as the basis of his church, although Obama omits any reference to Cone in Dreams From My Father.

It is doubtful that Obama actually read Cone, if for no other reason than Obama is not really a "reader" and I don't think he really cares about religion at all except as window dressing to fool dull witted blacks and gullible whites.

His going through the motions of attending the black church was simply a ruse to deceive dull-witted blacks into voting for him by blending in with them and assuming their swinish, disgusting world view for the sake of appearances. Wright has confirmed this is recent interviews where he said that the Obamas were really not church people. (He also said Obama offered him $100,000 to shut the hell up and stop talking to the media during the 2008 campaign! ) Obama is very sensitive to true facts about his life being made public and is obviously painfully embarassed by any close examination of his former associations.

Thus, by his own admission, Obama's "religion" is Black Liberation Theology, not Christianity. Blacks use "Christianity" as window dressing to conceal their hatred of white people and America. Christ was a racial universalist, not a racial advocate, and certainly not a racial advocate for Blacks with whom he had no contact.

You can learn a lot about this monster by just reading his books, Dreams From My Father and Audacity of Hope. His own words expose him as a liar and a confidence man. His only religion is Black racial supremacy based on open, unconcealed hatred of white people and America.

I am amazed that so few people actually seem to have read his books. They answer many questions about him, although they do raise others.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #51 on:** July 30, 2012, 04:02:45 AM »

You are on the mark there igm270. obama is a racist.

lgm270 · « **Reply #52 on:** July 30, 2012, 04:21:47 AM »

Quote from: Cabin4 on July 30, 2012, 04:02:45 AM

You are on the mark there igm270. obama is a racist.

Obama is much more than a mere "racist." He's a very sick, psychologically crippled person who should never have been allowed anywhere near the presidency. Just read Dreams From My Father! This morally and intellectually confused bunco artist belongs on a psychiatrist's couch, not in the White House.

Even as Obama obviously hates rank and file whites (even as he golfs and rubs elbows with wealthy white liberals who boosted him to power), , he has little use for rank and file Negros either.

Although Dreams From My Father is a veritable encyclopedia of negative black stereo types, his disapproval of the "brothers" when they try to hit on his younger half sister, Maya, at his wedding in October 1992 is absolutely astonishing!!

At page 440 of Dreams From My Father, Obama writes of his wedding as follows:

"I watched Maya politely fending off the advances of some brothers who thought they were slick but who were, in fact, much too old for her and should have known better..."

WOW! Maya is Obama's half sister by his own white mother and her Indonesian husband, Lolo Soetoro. She is not black, but half Indonesian and half white. Obama does not state Maya's age, but he writes of her as though she were a teenager and the "brothers" were in their 20's or something. I looked up her date of birth and she was born on August 15, 1970. SHE WAS 22 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME AND SHE HAD THE LEGAL RIGHT TO SLEEP WITH AS MANY BLACKS AS SHE WANTED.

I guess Obama learned his lesson about the "brothers" after one of them impregnated his 17 year old white mother and left her to fend for herself in his pursuit of other white women for his sexual gratification.

This raises an interesting question: If blacks aren't good enough for Obama's sister, are they good enough for his daughters? Will Obama allow his daughters to date black guys?

That issue aside, can you imagine the outrage if you openly said you didn't want the "brothers" hitting on your white sister or daughter? You would be fired from your job and blacklisted from obtaining another one.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #53 on:** July 30, 2012, 04:58:14 AM »

There are some here on GBO who will defend this racist to the death. They will just tell you your taking it all out of context.

Have you ever seen anyone never live up to what they say, do or believe as much as this sick racist failure in the WH? There is nothing that comes out of his mouth we can trust. He his a complete pathological liar and his buddies in the press just let him get away with it endlessly.

As I have said over and over, the real problem with this country is not really obama or the rest of the liar politicians, it the press. They have simply become partisan's in the mess. So the American people cannot get the truth from them.

lgm270 · « **Reply #54 on:** July 30, 2012, 05:24:19 AM »

Quote from: Cabin4 on July 30, 2012, 04:58:14 AM

There are some here on GBO who will defend this racist to the death. They will just tell you your taking it all out of context.

Have you ever seen anyone never live up to what they say, do or believe as much as this sick racist failure in the WH? There is nothing that comes out of his mouth we can trust. He his a complete pathological liar and his buddies in the press just let him get away with it endlessly.

As I have said over and over, the real problem with this country is not really obama or the rest of the liar politicians, it the press. They have simply become partisan's in the mess. So the American people cannot get the truth from them.

I agree and I share your frustration. It's unbelievable that any gun owning, freedom loving person would defend this fraud and incomprehensible that someone as emotionally unstable as him should be president.

One thing I've noted about liberals: They're always bragging about how their empty suit heros like Al Gore, Hillary Clinton and of course Obama. all write books, I have never met a single liberal who has read either of Obama's two books, even though I've read both of them several times and have thoroughly annotated them as well.

How ironic is that? Obama is worshiped for ghost written books that he didn't write by dull witted fans who don't read.

R.W.Dale · « **Reply #55 on:** July 30, 2012, 05:36:29 AM »

I challenge you to go find one little thing I've said in praise of Obama or any of his policies.

If attempting to inject a little thought into the brainless back patting that serves as intellectual discourse here makes us liberals than so be it.

The entire premise of this thread is that it matters to the "real conservatives" here that Obama isn't a Christian. Well if that's true then doesn't it stand to reason that his main competitor being a member of a 19th century cult matters too?

Apparently not

As to reading the drivel these pathological liars choose to put on paper. Some of us more productive members of society have better things to do than to read a book about the musings of a politician nobody will care about or remember in 10years.

Hey did you read the Dukakis book? Is a question you'll never get to reply to.

In my opinion gun owners promoting Romney is as big an oxymoron as if they were campaigning for O. Gun owners for Romney is about like cows pushing for eating more beef. Along with being liberal gun grabbers the worship of false gods is just one more thing Romney and Obama are just alike on.

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #56 on:** July 30, 2012, 07:58:10 AM »

Quote from: R.W.Dale on July 30, 2012, 05:36:29 AM

I challenge you to go find one little thing I've said in praise of Obama or any of his policies.

doesn't matter - failure to sing in tune with the Echo Chamber is enough.

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If attempting to inject a little thought into the brainless back patting that serves as intellectual discourse here makes us liberals than so be it.

Now you're getting the game...

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The entire premise of this thread is that it matters to the "real conservatives" here that Obama isn't a Christian. Well if that's true then doesn't it stand to reason that his main competitor being a member of a 19th century cult matters too?

No; what matters is conformity in criticism. Don't conform? You're librul!

R.W.Dale · « **Reply #57 on:** July 30, 2012, 08:07:50 AM »

We're the only ones who get it yellowtail.. Nobody here likes Obama, we all know his game after four YEARS as president, harping on the same tired points over and over and over and over again is pointless at this juncture.

The real and most important question is what are we possibly getting as a replacement? What does he stand for, what is his record and what will he do.

These are all critically important questions. THAT NOBODY HERE CARES ABOUT! Instead we just copy/paste the same redundant links that say absolutely nothing that we didn't already know from the last election cycle FOUR YEARS AGO

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #58 on:** July 30, 2012, 08:48:13 AM »

In my opinion, he is neither a Christian or a Muslim. He is a Communist. Therefore he only uses religion, either one, depending on the winds of opinion. He knows there are far more Muslims than Jews, so he panders to them. He believes in abortion and gay marriage, neither of which is accepted by true Christians or Muslims. It is a sin to both. Now, that shows me he is a liberal, socialist, or communist. Bring down the family, and the state becomes god and the family of the people.

lgm270 · « **Reply #59 on:** July 30, 2012, 08:59:53 AM »

Quote from: Dixie Dude on July 30, 2012, 08:48:13 AM

In my opinion, he is neither a Christian or a Muslim. He is a Communist. Therefore he only uses religion, either one, depending on the winds of opinion. He knows there are far more Muslims than Jews, so he panders to them. He believes in abortion and gay marriage, neither of which is accepted by true Christians or Muslims. It is a sin to both. Now, that shows me he is a liberal, socialist, or communist. Bring down the family, and the state becomes god and the family of the people.

You're absolutely right. He is a communist to whom all religions are interchangable like costumes he wears to a masquerade party.