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1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is.
« on: July 28, 2012, 02:49:38 AM »
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  Half of Americans Do Not Know the President's ReligionBy Amy Bingham | ABC OTUS News – 1 hr 57 min ago. Three and a half years into President Obama's first term as president, half of Americans cannot accurately say what religion he is, according to a poll released this week.     Only 49 percent of respondents said that Obama was Christian while 17 percent inaccurately said he was Muslim. Nearly one-third of respondents said they did not know the president's religion, according to the poll released Thursday by the Pew Research Center's Forum on Religion & Public Life.
More people - 60 percent - knew that Romney, who has not held elected office in a decade, was Mormon than knew which religion the sitting president subscribes to.
And while only 9 percent of respondents said Romney was a religion that he is not, more than twice that amount said Obama adheres to a religion other than Christianity. The vast majority of those claiming Obama is not a Christian said he was a Muslim.
Nearly one in three Republicans said Obama was Muslim, twice as many as in 2008, the Pew study shows.
"Unfortunately there has been a development of a bizarre echo chamber within right wing of the political spectrum that truth and reality have failed to penetrate," said Ibrahim Hooper, communications director at Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Washington-based Muslim civil rights and advocacy group. "It's a self-perpetuating, self-reinforcing delusion."
But this seemingly large lack of basic knowledge about the president may have more to do with people's opinion of Obama than how much they know about religious beliefs, said Alan Cooperman, associate director for research at the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life.
"It's entirely possible that what people are telling us isn't exactly what they know but they are expressing an opinion," Cooperman said. "We suspect - it's hard to prove it- that some of the people who tell us that the president is a Muslim are using the question as a way to express their distrust or dislike for the president."
Only 8 percent of Democrats said Obama was Muslim. Because there is such a wide divide between the parties' responses, Cooperman said the results do not "just show whether people are ignorant on the president's religion but more that they have an opinion on his religion."
The percentage of people who said Obama was Muslim has stayed fairly steady since August 2010, when firestorm erupted over plans to build an Islamic community center two blocks from Ground Zero in New York City.
Hooper said that while the tension between Muslims and Christians has not been as public since the " Ground Zero Mosque " controversy, he has seen "a steady erosion of tolerance and mutual understanding based on this relentless campaign of Islamophobia" since Obama was elected.
"It is visceral hatred for President Obama and to justify it they have to come up with these reasons: he is the other, he's Muslim, he's foreign born."
But as of now, a candidate's religion will not likely be the driving factor for whether people pick Obama or Romney in November.
Even though 65 percent of those who think Obama is Muslim said they were uncomfortable with his religion, most of them also said they already planned to vote for Romney. And among voters who knew Romney was Mormon, 80 percent either said his faith did not make them uncomfortable or that it did not matter.
"I'm not going to say it doesn't matter at all," Cooperman said, but it "doesn't seem to have a lot of impact on their voting preference."Also Read
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Re: 1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is.
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2012, 04:31:31 AM »
Maybe he doesn't have any.
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Re: 1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is.
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2012, 04:39:17 AM »
Primarily, Obama is a communist, but he becomes a muslimist when it suits his agenda.  He also adheres to black redistributionism and and anticonstitutionalism.  So he actually is multireligionistic.
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Re: 1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is.
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2012, 04:46:25 AM »
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Re: 1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is.
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2012, 05:33:27 AM »
He certainly isn't Christian. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: 1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is.
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2012, 07:05:14 AM »
Obama is a marxist.  He has no religion.  He joined a church based on the Black Value System, which is based on hatred of white people.

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Re: 1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is.
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2012, 09:04:10 AM »
Half of Americans today prob. don't know what a Church is or have ever been inside one.
Does it really matter what Religion a person belongs to, or even if they have a preference?
One can claim to be anything, but the character of the person is what really counts.
Most US Presidents were Episcopalian.Then came Presbyterian.Of the modern day Presidents I think Methodist and Baptist lead in numbers. One of the best (IMO) Had no preference. Thomas Jefferson.
Another that IMO was the worst of the lot, had none or was a Diest....Abe Lincoln.We've only had one Catholic...Kennedy. Another good one!Reagan was a Presbyterian, and prob. the last of the good men to hold the office.

Obama claims to be a Christian, and was a member of the Trinity United Church Of Christ, until Rev Wright made his remarks that led Barrack to bail. ;)
Really doesn't matter what anyone claims to be...........It's what they are that counts.To me, it's plain to see he's another NWO puppet.They come in all shapes, sizes,colors and religions.
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Re: 1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is.
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2012, 10:20:15 AM »
Well, with the right-wing fringe constantly claiming he is a Muslim, I'm not too surprised folks are unsure.  Really doesn't matter what religion a president is and I would probably trust an Atheist President more than any other.  Too many so called "Christians" seem to be more like the Pharisees or the money changers in the temple than true followers of Christ.  A person's character is what counts.  Thomas Jefferson, a founding father and one of our greatest presidents was not a Christian, but a Deist. 
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2012, 11:36:13 AM »
Thomas Jefferson, a founding father and one of our greatest presidents was not a Christian, but a Deist.

Yes, just what the rewritten history books wants one to believe. His work does not tell the story of a Deist. 

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Re: 1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is.
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2012, 11:53:44 AM »
religion ? not the real issue, his politics are what matters.
 and more then that, his ideals of right and wrong for this country is what matters most.
  i dont trust or believe anything he says or does. and his religion wont change that for me .

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Re: 1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is.
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2012, 03:06:43 PM »
religion ? not the real issue, his politics are what matters.
 and more then that, his ideals of right and wrong for this country is what matters most.
  i dont trust or believe anything he says or does. and his religion wont change that for me .

 
Agreed Sir. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: 1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is.
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2012, 04:46:46 PM »
Its obvious what his religion is.
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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2012, 05:27:28 AM »
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1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is!

Maybe it isn't important to them. There's a big chunk willfully ignorant types out there that think he's a Muslim Plant - a really big chunk. That's more a reflection of their ideology than their intellectual power, but it surely calls the latter into question.

I believe Obama has come right out and said he's a Christian, but I may be mis-remembering. He attended a church for many years, and provides a pretty strong clue  - - but no dent in the Birther crowd's fingers-in-ears stance. Now for some variety of Christians, none of this will count: they're the kind that, should they make it into the Kingdom, will be sequestered in an area by themselves, so they'll still think they're the only ones who made it... .
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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Re: 1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is.
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2012, 07:07:44 AM »
One thing we know for certain is that he is a complete a total liar. Obama in is own lies, in his own words.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H64yKJhB528&feature=related
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2012, 07:17:53 AM »
One thing we know for certain is that he is a complete a total liar. Obama in is own lies, in his own words.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H64yKJhB528&feature=related
don't take this wrong, Cabin, but I doubt he's much more of a liar than any political ideologue here... mebbe even yourself. Or maybe not.
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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Re: 1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is.
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2012, 08:03:14 AM »
religion ? not the real issue, his politics are what matters.
 and more then that, his ideals of right and wrong for this country is what matters most.
  i dont trust or believe anything he says or does. and his religion wont change that for me .

That works 100% for me as well.
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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2012, 09:15:44 AM »
You have to wonder, why has he been lying so much about his experience/history in religion? Makes all these questions come up, so why would he do it.....Perhaps its just stupidity or inexperience. Or maybe he is lying about his real religious beliefs. Just because he went to a radical left wing black racist liberation theology church for 20 years does not mean he's a Christian.
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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2012, 09:39:44 AM »
I reckon if high moral standards and strong family values mean nothing then being a God fearing man doesn'y matter to some of you. It should, those are qualities obummer does not have, but prefferably a president should have.  He went to a hate America hate whitey church for 20 years, he supports killing babies and homosexual marriage, nope, no Christian there. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Re: 1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is.
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2012, 09:45:29 AM »
I reckon if high moral standards and strong family values....
yet another poster with that worn-out slogan but doubtful ability to explain what they mean by it, in precise terms...
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2012, 10:07:48 AM »
I reckon if high moral standards and strong family values....
yet another poster with that worn-out slogan but doubtful ability to explain what they mean by it, in precise terms...

Its alarming that you need it spelled out for you. Calling it a worn-out slogan....very reveling. Hard to understand how someone can't grasp the concept of placing "value" for ones family.
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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2012, 10:11:45 AM »
I reckon if high moral standards and strong family values....
yet another poster with that worn-out slogan but doubtful ability to explain what they mean by it, in precise terms...

Its alarming that you need it spelled out for you. Calling it a worn-out slogan....very reveling. Hard to understand how someone can't grasp the concept of placing "value" for ones family.
Hey, now we're gettin' somewhere: does family values mean, placing value on one's family? Well, then... President Obama is a family-values kind of guy, like many of us here- he's got kids, by all accounts loves 'em.


I'd say thanks for the heads-up, Cabin, except there's more to it than you've let on.
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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2012, 10:15:43 AM »
I reckon if high moral standards and strong family values mean nothing then being a God fearing man doesn'y matter to some of you. It should, those are qualities obummer does not have, but prefferably a president should have.  He went to a hate America hate whitey church for 20 years, he supports killing babies and homosexual marriage, nope, no Christian there. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(

Then I guess your against Romney since he's NOT A CHRISTIAN and supports these very things?

And no I don't consider Mormons Christian no more that I consider Jews or Muslim simply because their religion draws on parts of the old testament.

People who live in glass houses.... nevermind the irony is lost here.

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1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is.
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2012, 10:45:29 AM »
I reckon if high moral standards and strong family values mean nothing then being a God fearing man doesn'y matter to some of you. It should, those are qualities obummer does not have, but prefferably a president should have.  He went to a hate America hate whitey church for 20 years, he supports killing babies and homosexual marriage, nope, no Christian there. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(

Then I guess your against Romney since he's NOT A CHRISTIAN and supports these very things?

And no I don't consider Mormons Christian no more that I consider Jews or Muslim simply because their religion draws on parts of the old testament.

People who live in glass houses.... nevermind the irony is lost here.
You do know the actual name of the Mormon Church is "The Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints", right?
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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2012, 10:49:20 AM »
I think one reason many people aren't aware of his religion is that he doesn't have one. By all accounts he only joined Trinity in Chicago for political reasons in the black community (to fit in). He clearly was not paying a lot of attention (as he didn't know much about what the Rev. Wright said). He hasn't joined a church in DC. The fact he spoke openly in his own autobiography and in interviews about attending Muslim schools in his childhood has certainly contributed to the confusion.
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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2012, 10:59:36 AM »
I think one reason many people aren't aware of his religion is that he doesn't have one.
really know that would require knowing the guy himself, don't you think?
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« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2012, 11:17:11 AM »
I reckon if high moral standards and strong family values....
yet another poster with that worn-out slogan but doubtful ability to explain what they mean by it, in precise terms...

 

 
Its alarming that you need it spelled out for you. Calling it a worn-out slogan....very reveling. Hard to understand how someone can't grasp the concept of placing "value" for ones family.

 
C4. Plain that there are those here who really don't know what high morals and family values are, I was sure somebody would have to ask. no shocker there. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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Re: 1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is.
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2012, 11:47:53 AM »
One thing we know for certain is that he is a complete a total liar. Obama in is own lies, in his own words.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H64yKJhB528&feature=related
don't take this wrong, Cabin, but I doubt he's much more of a liar than any political ideologue here... mebbe even yourself. Or maybe not.

I've read both of Obama's books, have reviewed as many official documents and photographs as I could find and have concluded that his entire background is manufactured and sustained through the use of forged documents, outright lies and doctored photographs.   His two books are repleat with misrepresentations about the most basic facts of his personal life and family history.

Dreams From My Father has now been conceded by David Maranniss, Obama's most recent servile white biographer, to have been full  of misrepresentations, composit characters, fabricated dialog and stories and even a false account of his grandfather being tortured by the British during the Mau Mau Uprising.  All frauds.  (Dreams From MY Father documents just about every negative black stereotype you can imagine).   The only truthful statement about his African  grandfather  describes how he purchased an African woman for 16 cows....this half a century after slavery was ended in the US.   Hmmmm..... Africans buying and selling each other?  Who would have ever thought!


Audacity of Hope has more bogus biographical information.   He gets all of his dates wrong...the wrong date he attended Harvard Law, the wrong date he got married, the wrong date he met his wife...etc.  And his affirmative action wife supposedly helped him write this book. 

The whole  "family" abounds with lies and misrepresentations.  Just check out Obama Sr's immigration file.  He lists two different birth dates, one in 1934 and another in 1936 in forms in his own handwriting and signed with his signature.  On an August 1962 application to extend his visa, he fills in the line about children with "Roy Obama," and makes no reference to Barack Obama Jr. who was purportedly born in August 1961.     This great genius who was smart enough to get into Harvard...but was too dumb to get his own correct date of birth.

His mother's story is no better.   Check out Stanely Ann Dunham's purported  signatures on her Application for Social Security Number (1959 and on the [coiunterfeit] birth certificate (August 1961):  They're the same exact signatures signed with the same black fountain pen.  Then compare them with the signature on her Social Security Card (1959) and on her divorce papers filed in Hawaii in early 1964.  They're all signed by different people.  There are at least half dozen different people signing her name on official documents.

Best of all, there is a February 2007 puff piece in the Honolulu Advertisor  which refers to Obama's mother as "Shirley Ann Dunham" and illustrates the story with a picture that has Obama's head pasted onto a white body. 

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/dailypix/2007/Feb/10/FPI702100346AR_b.jpg


 http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Feb/10/ln/FP702100346.html

Notice the Obama in  this picture has A WHITE PERSON'S ARM? Also notice that "Obama" is looking off to the side, but that every other person in this picture is looking directly at the camera.  This is because "Obama" isn't there. This photograph is a composite that has  been assembled from at least two different photographs. 

The entire family history is full of stuff like this.   In February 2010, Knopf Publishing, a division of Random House,  announced a new fawning, flattering biography of Obama by Pulitzer Prize winner, David Remnick.  The announcement identified Obama's mother as "Shirley Ann Dunham."  This from the publisher of Obama's two other books,  that identified her as "Stanley Ann Dunham."   How obvious a fraud does this man's background have to be when his own fawning biographer and his own publisher can't even get the name of his mother correct? 

http://thegrio.com/2010/02/22/obama-bio-by-new-yorker-editor-coming-in-april/

Who is this man? 

Regardless of who he is,  it is really interesting how all liberals defend his lies on the grounds that everybody else lies too. ...and therefore it's OK. 

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Re: 1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is.
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2012, 11:53:56 AM »
I think one reason many people aren't aware of his religion is that he doesn't have one.
really know that would require knowing the guy himself, don't you think?

Don't need to know him God's word says we shall know them by the fruits they bare.
The man has lied and blamed his way through his first term. He has trampled and ignored the Constitution repeatedly. He uses race, wealth, religion and political stands to divide the people and the country he was elected to lead. Looks like rotten fruit to me.

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Re: Re: 1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is.
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2012, 11:59:53 AM »
I reckon if high moral standards and strong family values mean nothing then being a God fearing man doesn'y matter to some of you. It should, those are qualities obummer does not have, but prefferably a president should have.  He went to a hate America hate whitey church for 20 years, he supports killing babies and homosexual marriage, nope, no Christian there. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(

Then I guess your against Romney since he's NOT A CHRISTIAN and supports these very things?

And no I don't consider Mormons Christian no more that I consider Jews or Muslim simply because their religion draws on parts of the old testament.

People who live in glass houses.... nevermind the irony is lost here.
You do know the actual name of the Mormon Church is "The Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints", right?

They can literally pull a name out of a hat and call it what they want. That doesn't make it that.

Muslims believe that Jesus will return one day too. Does that make them Christians?

Sometimes when you're board read up on old Brigham Young at best he was a cult leader and at worst a mass murderer.

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Re: 1/2 of Americans don't know what obamas religion is.
« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2012, 12:05:10 PM »
1/2  don't know the presidents religion....he is a jerniah wright vhristian or a muslim


60%  know that a candidate  is a mormon


makes you wonder why the TV  tell  people what they tell them
that  TV   is what guides   most peoples  life from my observations
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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