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for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« on: July 29, 2012, 05:31:54 AM »
this video, is very long. but if you take the time to watch it and think about what Lloyd is saying , its very interesting.
however...it all about biology, ecology  and scientific topics , not time travel and other dimensions.
lloyd puts alot of time and hard work into this topic and makes alot of sence, whether or not you think bigfoot could be a real flesh and blood animal.. i said think, not believe.

let the education begin ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe6DN1OoxjE&feature=related

im only the messenger , at the 1 hour mark , he moves onto something else. this videos topic is not bigfoot , but he goes into the topic of bigfoot very well and if you want to talk about whether or not bigfoot could be real, this is way to start.

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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2012, 10:19:31 AM »
I still believe many of the witnesses in bigfoot sightings, but I no longer think it is just an undiscovered animal.  This no longer fits into the parameters of cryto-zoology, these encounters are of the paranormal variety.  There is just too much overlapping territory with UFOs and poltergeist. 
 
This thing is demonic.
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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2012, 10:40:09 AM »
there is a very wide range of thoughts and ideas as to what BF's are.
also i do think that there is a large contigent of people do not want to know the truth, and instead want to hold onto thier beliefs, whether it be paranormal, religious or other dimensional.
its all up for grabs at this point.

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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2012, 05:33:59 PM »
Yes, there is a wide range of beliefs here, so let's bring em out.  I have no agenda, if I'm wrong, then I will grow.  But I do not believe this is a matter of psychiatrics; and the paranormal is simply the science that has not yet been proved or documented.
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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2012, 06:15:12 PM »
saw one in the ozarks about 30 years ago,
scared the manure out of my buddy and
me both.


never want to see another one in person


no bullstuff- no lie
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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2012, 09:36:00 PM »
would you care to tell us your story ?
 i, for one would like to hear what happened and what you saw and where.
 

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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2012, 11:50:26 PM »
I still believe many of the witnesses in bigfoot sightings, but I no longer think it is just an undiscovered animal.  This no longer fits into the parameters of cryto-zoology, these encounters are of the paranormal variety.  There is just too much overlapping territory with UFOs and poltergeist. 
 
This thing is demonic.
You're correct, but there's no real reason to believe it's demonic.
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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2012, 05:32:24 AM »
who. . . .me??? :-\


there ain't much to tell. . . .


nature doesn't scare me.
only three times in my short
life has anything got to me.


one was that


one time i was squirrel hunting alone with
a single-shot small bore pistol and topped
a ridge to be face-to-face with a pack of
about 12-15 feral dogs ( you know. . .the
dogs folks get tired of and dump in the "country"
and they revert back wild) and me with
one teeny shot. they looked and growled and
wandered off and i went back to camp.




the next was when i finally saw a panther while
deer hunting on my place. the thing came out of
the treeline absolutely silent, very very slowly
circling the blind where i sat, and crouched slow
slow slowly into the knee-high grass about 25 yards
away, and it was as if the thing melted and ran into
the ground. i watched that spot solid for about 15
minutes, then i finally had to make my way over there
to that spot, staring the whole time. while i had sat
watching, that thing managed to slip away from that
little spot with zero cover or no noise or sign whatsoever.
it apparently was looking for the deer that the doe scent i
put out made it think was there.
that something like that could move with such stealth and
with zero noise shook me bad.


there ain't all much to tell about the yeti or whatever.
my friend and i were camping on the ok.-ark. border
pretty deep in the ozarks in the bush, and saw one.
the trailer was about 7 feet at the tallest point, and
it's eyes were several inches above that. we packed
up in a hurry and left. two grown men didn't imagine
the same thing, and we weren't drunk or high. there
isn't anything else to tell, other than seeing that thing
scared 2 grown-ups to their core and they left.
we talked and joked about it for a long time, but
it still scared both of us, and we would change the
subject.


i wish there was more to it, and i could say we saw
the thing board a ufo and fly off, or that it went
back underground through a hidden stone doorway
to a ancient underground indian city or something
like that, but it didn't.


we saw it- it scared the poop out of us- we hauled


the end
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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2012, 09:58:23 AM »
and it throws rocks. . . . .




not rocks the size of a quarter like
when you're a kid,  but rocks the
size of a cantaloupe. . . . :-\
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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2012, 12:20:49 PM »
ranger99, thanks for your story with your BF  encounter.
 a very large quantity of BF stories contain details like yours, of eye shine and stone throwing.
  stick and or stone throwing is a very primate behavior.

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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2012, 12:52:08 PM »
well. . . .


there ain't a whole lot to it.
i've been back up to that area (not the
exact area) quite a few times camping and
such, and my buddies boys have too.
the fella that was with me passed away a
couple of years ago.
his youngest son went by himself 2 years
ago and experienced the rock throwing,
but never saw or heard anything.


i'll always stand by what we saw-


when we went, we went to camp and
relax, not take pictures or notes, or
hunt any legendary anything.


i can't say what or who it was, only
if it was someone in a costume, they
were a brave or stupid #@$% to
risk getting shot and killed.


i don't think we know of everything
in this world- we don't even know
what all lifeforms are in our oceans,
and i'm sure we don't know of everything
that walks or crawls on dry land.


i never saw a panther in my home
state until i was 50, and i've been in
the woods for one reason or another
all my life.


i don't worry about things like this
too much, life is way too short
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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2012, 04:03:39 AM »
 Bigfoot hoax ends in death, authorities sayBy the CNN Wire Staffupdated 7:49 AM EDT, Tue August 28, 2012STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  • The man was wearing a camouflage suit, hoping to incite a Bigfoot hoax, Montana authorities say
  • The man stepped out onto a highway, officials say
  • One car struck him and another ran him over, a CNN affiliate reports
  • Both cars were driven by teens, the affiliate says
(CNN) -- A man trying to create a Bigfoot hoax on a highway died after being hit by two cars, officials in Montana said.
Randy Lee Tenley dressed in a Ghillie suit -- camouflage designed to resemble the ground and trees -- and stepped out onto Highway 93 Sunday night, officials said.
"He probably would not have been very easy to see at all," said Jim Schneider, a state trooper.
A 15-year-old girl hit him with her car, another car swerved, and a third car driven by a 17-year-old ran him over, CNN affiliate KECI reported.
Tenley was "well into the driving lane," and according to his companions he was "attempting to incite a sighting of Bigfoot -- to make people think they had seen a Sasquatch," Schneider said in the KECI report.
But authorities received no calls from drivers thinking they had seen Bigfoot, the station reported.
Officials with Montana Highway Patrol District 6, which includes Flathead County where the incident took place, could not be reached for comment Tuesday morning.
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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2012, 04:19:22 AM »
Hope this Montana fella wasn't one of our Graybeard folks....

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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2012, 10:39:19 AM »
well. . . . . .


i hate to say that the doofus had it coming,
but that was really an especially stuuuuuuupid
thing to do.


he could have easily been shot as well by
someone that may have been afraid
for their life.


bad enough running out in highway
traffic as well  :(
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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2012, 12:33:19 PM »
i agree 110%. he had it coming in spades !

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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2012, 06:05:37 PM »
I've finally had the time to watch Lloyd Pye's
show from beginning to end.


It's interesting no doubt, if nothing else.
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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2012, 06:09:10 PM »
I'll have to say again that us humans
for all we've done science-wise, we
still know very little about this earth,
be it oceans, or dry land.
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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2012, 01:29:04 AM »
thanks Ranger99 for watching that video,  i know it long and dry
 and i admit its not about BF itself, but the first half of it, does give a very good explanation of how BF if it were real, could
possible real ( at one time ) and its biology.
 your right, we dont know everything about this earth, space or the oceans.
 but, if were are to learn anything, it has to be from a sciences basis, not fantasy or make believe.
 if science ever shows that time travel as fact, or ghosts/demons or other dimension are real then we could try and apply that to BF.
until then we need to use biology,ecology and other known sciences to prove or disprove BF.
 thats just my opinion

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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2012, 08:38:28 AM »
imo, i don't no if any yeti, or bigfoot,
or whatever is an alien, or time traveler,
or slid through a black hole from the
11 dimension, that's beyond me.


i do know that there are places in
this country and around the world
that things can hide or live without
being seen by satellite or plane or
helicopter. i have been to a few of those
places hunting and camping. i guess it
would be nice to think we have the hold
on this world, but we don't. we just had
a hurricane that showed us nature can
still kick our teeth in, and tornadoes are
a constant threat where i live.
the only real way to observe what's outdoors
is to be outside in the hot and the rain
and cold and dirt.


maybe someday, one of these biologists
will get a bigfoot or chupacabra, or mermaid,
but they won't do it from a truck or a lab,
or find it with a satellite, they'll have to
get out and get dirty.


i'd just as soon they left 'em alone as
long as it doesn't throw any rocks.
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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2012, 09:33:59 AM »
and i agree with part of what you said, yet again.
 i think the way to really find BF, is to get away from the high tech stuff and get down and dirty..
  ive been saying for many years now, that BF could be found if someone took the time to look at the biology and
ecology requirements of BF ( 800 lbs, hairy , bi-pedal primate ) and build a map of sorts.
then maintain a near constant state of monitoring in that area, train dogs to track them.
 then only a body , collected would be needed for science and study.
  the only real caveat would be the assumptions that would have to be made , trial and error , as to food, climate range, populations and ecological regions at what times of year, for building a location map.

that in part is why i dont really think BF is real, to many sighting is regions, that differ to much in climate and conditions.. like having overly hairy primates in swampy locations, that just dont physically/ biologically fit

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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2012, 12:19:43 PM »
Hope this Montana fella wasn't one of our Graybeard folks....

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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2012, 06:25:31 PM »
Hi, all...I started my studies of "BigFoot" many years ago when I read Lloyd Pye's book, "Everything You Know Is Wrong". Very interesting study, very detailed, and it made a believer of me. I have email chatted with Lloyd many times, and he is not a crackpot, but a very learned fellow. His study methods are very through, and his conclusions make sense. In my area, sightings have been made since the mid-1800's, and by folks from many walks of life. I have never seen one myself, but a friend has a couple of pics showing a large, white furred "Something" climbing down a steep slope high up one of the local mountains. Pics look like a very large white primate, and no, it isn't a man in a suit, terraine is way too rough and remote for someone to be wandering around dressed for Halloween! Just my two cents worth....BoomLover
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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2012, 11:32:07 PM »
if were are to learn anything, it has to be from a sciences basis, not fantasy or make believe.
 if science ever shows that time travel as fact, or ghosts/demons or other dimension are real then we could try and apply that to BF.
until then we need to use biology,ecology and other known sciences to prove or disprove BF.
 thats just my opinion

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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2012, 04:06:39 PM »
Bigfoot is out there, Just need to be at the right place at the right time, I will not wait a New York Second to put a hole in him and end all this foolish talk.  Larry
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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2012, 01:26:40 AM »
Boomlover:  does this mean we now have Blackfoot, Whitefoot and Bigfoot out there?????  Could this mean a gathering of the clans?  Think they're planning something, maybe a move on the white house or neu squawk sity?  Think they are whizzed that bloomberg wants to eliminate 32oz drinks?  I think they are whizzed that obama wants 4 more years to try and finally bring the country to ruin.  I'm hoping they send a rep to run for biden's seat........ just a few thoughts.........

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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2012, 05:44:59 AM »
i was watching a lecture by a biologist. she said , about a different animal, but it applies to any animal,
 that for conservation of a species, that they need a population of about 50 animals, in an area that will support their biological and environmental needs , concentrated in a region of their natural range.

 now we dont know what BF's range would be, but if we look at gorillas, its not all that far ranging.
so, that would mean, if BF were real.. they would  have a very large population in their particular habitat.
 any hunter, would not have a hard time finding a large population of 800 lbs, upright walking 8 foot tall primates , counting 50 or more in the woods , in their state , in a small ecological area..

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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2012, 04:57:06 AM »
First off let me state that I find all things strange, unusual, paranormal, crypto, interesting. Now, this is not to say that I believe everything in those categories. Bigfoot, to me and in my opinion, is nothing more than a tall tale passed down year after year after year. I would love for it to exist, but the simple fact is that with countless teams of people looking for it, advances in technology to allow for video and photo in remote places, and not one single shred of credible evidence ever being presented, I just can't believe it exists. If believers are listened to then not only is there a small population, but populations in every state and most countries with no evidence, or body ever being found. It is not a skeptic's place to prove bigfoot doesn't exist, it is a believers place to prove that it does, and up until now that has not been done in any way form or fashion. Just my opinion.
 
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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2012, 12:39:40 PM »
there are a few videos of this encounter on youtube. i have watched them and the slow motion versions as well.
 at first blush, it seem credible, mostly because at the end , the creature raises it shoulders and widens its arm and leans forward.
 its a very classic chimpanzee movement.
however, there are several points that seem to say hoax, distance/size for one, what they were wear/time of year
 head size and arm length ratio to body width. post incident video footage ... just to name the obvious
 
when the video came out, it was touted as credible,  reasonably clear and the teens "acted" correct for the event ..
 but as its looked at with clear and logical heads, its clearly a hoax, stage set by someone who knew something a bit about BF sightings.  at the end of the day, its a kid in a costume of some kind.

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Re: for those that want to talk about bigfoot as a real animal
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2012, 01:47:15 PM »
I'm not saying bigfoot exists or doesn't exist but it's just strange that as many people that are in the woods and have been in the woods with a rifle, not a one has busted a cap on one of them. There is a guy in my hunting club here in Alabama that swears, he and others in a club he used to be in, saw one several times over near Selma. Said they saw strange lights in the sky too. I just say ok and let him carry on. Until I see one for myself I'll remain skeptical.
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