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  Mercury rising: 5 consequences from the drought that’s scorching American farmland     By Liz Goodwin, Yahoo! News
National Affairs Reporter      Drought-damaged corn on a Michigan farm. (Robert Ray/AP)     The worst drought in a generation is punishing farmers and burning up the nation's corn crop. Nearly 65 percent of the nation is experiencing a drought right now, according to the U.S. Drought Monitor. Many farmers were just trying to get over last summer's dry spell when the hottest June on record rolled in, threatening to destroy crops and desiccate pastures.
While it's still unclear exactly what the drought will mean for the U.S. environment and economy, a few concerning consequences are already apparent. But experts predict other worrisome outcomes yet to come. (If you have stories or photos about how the drought is affecting you, share them with us here.) Here are a few consequences that could crop up due to the drought:
1. Rising food prices at home
The U.S. Department of Agriculture warned last week that Americans should expect to pay 3 to 5 percent more for groceries next year because of the drought. Most of the price hikes will be for chicken, pork, beef and dairy, since the dry weather is scorching up the nation's corn crop, which feeds these animals. Soybeans and wheat prices are also on the rise. Other fruits and veggies, most of which are irrigated, aren't likely to be as affected.
2. World food prices and social unrest
While no one likes to have to pay more for food, Americans are on the whole much less vulnerable to food price spikes because, on average, they spend less than 15 percent of their budgets on food. In developing nations, such as India, food spending accounts for nearly half of the average household's funds. While experts don't know for sure how the drought will affect world food prices, many nations depend upon America's corn, soybean and wheat exports. Colombia, El Salvador, Guatemala, Japan, Peru, South Korea and East African countries are the most dependent on U.S. corn imports, the Guardian reported last week. Food prices and social unrest have been closely correlated over the past five years, leaving experts to fear a repeat of  2007 and 2010, when waves of social unrest followed food cost hikes.
3. Sad, skinny animals at county fairs
Though far less serious than some of the other drought outcomes, the AP reports that prize animals showing up at state and county fairs this summer are far skinnier than their prize-winning ancestors. In one Wisconsin-area fair, entries were down by two-thirds, as farmers said they were too busy struggling to stay afloat with their dried-up pastures and the rising cost of feed to enter into the contests at all.
4. Wildfires
Firefighters have been battling wildfires in Nebraska, Arkansas, California, Texas, Colorado and other states this summer. Extra-dry conditions mean more fires are likely as the summer stretches on.
5. Barges stuck on riverbeds, roads buckling
The drought is taking its toll on key transportation and infrastructure in the country. The Mississippi River has gotten so low that barge operators are worried they will get stuck while navigating it. They've had to lighten their loads, which means taking more trips to transport $180 billion in grain, coal and other goods. Meanwhile, roads are buckling, water pipes are bursting, and power lines are burning up in wildfires due to the nine-month drought, reports The Texas Tribune.
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Re: Consequences of the severe drought accross Americas farmland.
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2012, 04:53:19 AM »
It's definitely raising the intelligence level of Americans!  ;)
 
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Re: Consequences of the severe drought accross Americas farmland.
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2012, 05:06:58 AM »
crusty. Horsepatoot. Climate change has been going back and forth for thousands of years. My cuz in ILL has to haul water every day for livestock and home. His  pond and creek are completely dry, crops ruined. Corn around here looks like mostly a total loss, beans will depend on future rains, too late for the corn. My pond is dwn at least 3 ft, many ponds in the area are now dry and we are in better shape than in much, if not most, of Ill. Ya reckon that Gods trying to get our attention?? Nothing else has worked. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2012, 05:18:10 AM »
It's definitely raising the intelligence level of Americans!  ;)
 
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Yeah, because there has never been a drought in the US before.... The sky is falling sales pitch is always easier to sell in a crisis. When we get a colder than average winter/summer that statistic will fall to 40%...  It's called weather patterns and just because the ocean has risen .15" over the last 20 years doesn't have me running and buying flood insurance.
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2012, 05:23:39 AM »
My dad and brother farm corn and soybeans in southeastern Wisconsin and it was pretty rough around here a couple weeks ago.  We were lucky and got rain in the nick of time and it should salvage most of their acreage.  Yields will be way down, probably half of last year, but will get something.  This year will have an impact across the world, but will be ok because of what remains of last years crop. If next year is the same or worse, Catie bar the door. Surplus will be exhausted and things will get nasty across this planet.  God forbid we see anything like the dust bowl years....
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2012, 05:56:31 AM »
Most of the old timers around here compare this year to 1937, NWS says its the worst since 1956.I can say there has been minimal newgrowth of pasture grasses, and the few wheat fields I have heard of harvesting the yield was down, get ready for higher bread and cereal costs. Irrigated hay growers report that even running irrigation around the clock and still getting maybe only 2/3 of a crop. Our cattle are in pretty good shape, but then the gramma and buffalo grass that is native to this part of the world is working it's wonder just like it was intended to do. We have supplemented a little bit, but not much as it's not really needed just yet.
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2012, 06:18:22 AM »
It's definitely raising the intelligence level of Americans!  ;)
 
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That 70% number must be the young and dumb crowd!
I remember back in the 1960's up  until about 1980 we were heading into another ice age.
Wait another 10-20 years and we will be cooling down again.
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2012, 06:32:27 AM »

That 70% number must be the young and dumb crowd!
I remember back in the 1960's up  until about 1980 we were heading into another ice age.
Wait another 10-20 years and we will be cooling down again.
It's just a cycle that has been going on since time began.

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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2012, 08:23:31 AM »
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2012, 08:59:07 AM »
The drought is probably the best thing to happen to Minnesota farmers in at least ten years. We've got a spectacular crop this year! If prices are up and supply from Minnesota is good, then much money will be made here.

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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2012, 10:38:29 AM »
The drought is probably the best thing to happen to Minnesota farmers in at least ten years. We've got a spectacular crop this year! If prices are up and supply from Minnesota is good, then much money will be made here.

 
That is usually how it works, feast of famine... We have had good rain the last couple of weeks. Corn is at $8.73/bu and beans are $16.32/bu.  That is as high as I've ever seen them, may go higher although at some point the government will step in and freeze the prices...
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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2012, 11:00:42 AM »
It looks like the second year in a row that I will not have nay fall crops to harvest. Yesterday I measured the depth of some of the soil cracks, varied from 14-34 inches. It is dry, dry, dry here.
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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2012, 02:00:43 PM »
The drought is probably the best thing to happen to Minnesota farmers in at least ten years. We've got a spectacular crop this year! If prices are up and supply from Minnesota is good, then much money will be made here.

That's the nature of farming! Farmers are some of biggest gamblers in the world, they all hope that everyone else has a bad year, while they have a good one. Of course government subsidies take some of the risk factor out of it.
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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2012, 02:12:34 PM »
It looks like the second year in a row that I will not have nay fall crops to harvest. Yesterday I measured the depth of some of the soil cracks, varied from 14-34 inches. It is dry, dry, dry here.
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1/2 of the counties in America considered disaster areas.
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  Half of US counties now considered disaster areasAssociated PressBy JIM SUHR | Associated Press – 11 hrs ago      Corn plants struggle to survive in drought-stricken farm fields in Jasper, Indiana July 24, 2012. REUTERS/ John Sommers IIView Gallery   Corn plants struggle to survive in drought-stricken farm fields in Jasper, Indiana July 24, 2012. REUTERS/ John Sommers II     Related Content 
 
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    ST. LOUIS (AP) — Nearly 220 counties in a dozen drought-stricken states were added Wednesday to the U.S. government's list of natural disaster areas as the nation's agriculture chief unveiled new help for frustrated, cash-strapped farmers and ranchers grappling with extreme dryness and heat.
The U.S. Department of Agriculture's addition of the 218 counties means that more than half of all U.S. counties — 1,584 in 32 states — have been designated primary disaster areas this growing season, the vast majority of them mired in a drought that's considered the worst in decades.
Counties in Arkansas, Georgia, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, Nebraska, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee and Wyoming were included in Wednesday's announcement. The USDA uses the weekly U.S. Drought Monitor to help decide which counties to deem disaster areas, which makes farmers and ranchers eligible for federal aid, including low-interest emergency loans.
To help ease the burden on the nation's farms, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack on Thursday opened up 3.8 million acres of conservation land for ranchers to use for haying and grazing. Under that conservation program, farmers have been paid to take land out of production to ward against erosion and create wildlife habitat.
"The assistance announced today will help U.S. livestock producers dealing with climbing feed prices, critical shortages of hay and deteriorating pasturelands," Vilsack said.
Vilsack also said crop insurers have agreed to provide farmers facing cash-flow issues a penalty-free, 30-day grace period on premiums in 2012.
As of this week, nearly half of the nation's corn crop was rated poor to very poor, according to the USDA's National Agricultural Statistics Service. About 37 percent of the U.S. soybeans were lumped into that category, while nearly three-quarters of U.S. cattle acreage is in drought-affected areas, the survey showed.
The potential financial fallout in the nation's midsection appears to be intensifying. The latest weekly Mid-America Business Conditions Index, released Wednesday, showed that the ongoing drought and global economic turmoil is hurting business in nine Midwest and Plains states, boosting worries about the prospect of another recession, according to the report.
Creighton University economist Ernie Goss, who oversees the index, said the drought will hurt farm income while the strengthening dollar hinders exports, meaning two of the most important positive factors in the region's economy are being undermined.
The survey covers Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma and South Dakota.
Thursday's expansion of federal relief was welcomed in rain-starved states like Illinois, where the USDA's addition of 66 counties leaves just four of the state's 102 counties — Cook, DuPage, Kane and Will, all in the Chicago area — without the natural disaster classification.
The Illinois State Water Survey said the state has averaged just 12.6 inches from January to June 2012, the sixth-driest first half of a year on record. Compounding matters is that Illinois has seen above-normal temperatures each month, with the statewide average of 52.8 degrees over the first six months logged as the warmest on record.
"While harvest has yet to begin, we already see that the drought has caused considerable crop damage," Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn said. In his state, 71 percent of the corn crop and 56 percent of soybean acreage is considered poor or very poor.
In South Dakota, where roughly three-fifths of the state is in severe or extreme drought, Vilsack earlier had allowed emergency haying and grazing on about 500,000 conservation acres, but not on the roughly 445,000 acres designated as wetlands.
Vilsack's decision to open up some wetland acres in a number of states will give farmers and ranchers a chance to get good quality forage for livestock, federal lawmakers said.
"The USDA cannot make it rain, but it can apply flexibility to the conservation practices," Sen. Tim Johnson, a South Dakota Democrat, said Wednesday. The USDA designated 39 of his state's counties disaster areas.
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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2012, 03:40:10 AM »
Anyone give any thought to the fact that cows aren't supposed to eat corn?
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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2012, 05:07:19 AM »
Anyone give any thought to the fact that cows aren't supposed to eat corn?

No......never gave it a passing thought, since feed lots have been using corn to feed cattle for generations now.
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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2012, 05:35:26 AM »
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"Anyone give any thought to the fact that cows aren't supposed to eat corn?"


Swampman, please explain your statement. For once I agree 100% with Cut's response. Besides this year the cows are eating mostly corn stalks and leaves as there was little actual corn on most of the plants. I grew up on a farm/ranch and corn was used quite a bit with other feed to feed our cattle.
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« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2012, 05:48:54 AM »
Cattle are ruminants their digestive system is adapted to grasses, corn stalks are great for them. Flora in the gut help break down the cellouse and aid in converting the roughage to enegy. Corn causes an acid enviroment in the gut that prohibits the growth of the natural flora. Feedlots fight acididious constantly. Feedlots have not been around for generations, mostly appearing after WWII in California and moved to Kansas and west Texas in the late 50's and early 60's. Corn has been used in feedlots mostly because it is abundant and cheap.

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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2012, 05:49:04 AM »
The only reason we feed cows corn is to fatten them up for good marbled steaks.  Normally they were/are grass eaters like other heard animals.  I see both sides.  Cows are usually fattened up the last few weeks of their life before slaughter with corn.  Same with hogs.  We might actually have leaner meat this year. 
 
As far as drought, we had the dust bowls of the 1930's worst in history.  Seems like God is telling us something, with the same type conditions of the Great Depression and drought, now the Great Recession and drought.  Only a major war brought us out of the depression. 

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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2012, 05:52:58 AM »
Average time on feed in a feedlot is 140 days.

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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2012, 06:15:02 AM »
At one time Global warming caused Palm Trees on the North Slope of Alaska.  Then during Ice Ages, the Great Lakes was gouged out of the earth by Glacers.  In other words Global Warming, and Global Cooling, has occured before, long before man could have had any affect on it.
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« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2012, 06:25:20 AM »
This is the worst drought I have seen in my 64 year old lifetime. Everything at our 157 acres is a total loss. 1988 was a bad year but we did not have the blistering sun with high temperatures and the winds every day, managed a small crop. 1958 (I think) was another dry year but I was too young to remember much. I think this is going to have a greater effect on things than most forecasters want to admit.

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« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2012, 07:03:39 AM »
Cattle are ruminants their digestive system is adapted to grasses, corn stalks are great for them. Flora in the gut help break down the cellouse and aid in converting the roughage to enegy. Corn causes an acid enviroment in the gut that prohibits the growth of the natural flora. Feedlots fight acididious constantly. Feedlots have not been around for generations, mostly appearing after WWII in California and moved to Kansas and west Texas in the late 50's and early 60's. Corn has been used in feedlots mostly because it is abundant and cheap.

Cuts is correct, been feeding corn for generations, since a generation is considered approximately 20 years...
Corn has been used because it makes better beef! Balancing their diet to give them the right amount of roughage and protein has been perfected, so I will take my beautifully corn finished, marbled ribeye over a grass fed one any day...
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Re: Consequences of the severe drought accross Americas farmland.
« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2012, 07:11:01 AM »
My older pond which does not have much depth anymore just went dry last week for the third time in seven years. My new pond is small enough that I can keep it up by pumping ground water into it. Neighbors have lost fish even though their is still water due to water temps and lack of oxygen. My watershed lake is down from 36 acres to I would guess around 20 acres. Not as low as it got a few years back. Temps are suppose to hit 107 today. The egrets and herons are loving the fishing. I am using firecrackers to try and keep them off my little pond but I think they are getting use to them and may start throwing them back at me.
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Re: Consequences of the severe drought accross Americas farmland.
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2012, 09:19:32 AM »
I've read something somewhere that one cause of "global warming" is asphalt.  When averaged out back in 1975 when I saw this, America had one paved road for every square mile of land.  Probably far more now.  They said cities averaged abot 5 degrees hotter than the countryside because of the asphalt absorbing heat.  This makes more sense than burning fossil fuels.  China, India, Africa, the Middle East, South America all have more paved roads than ever before.  They were advocating concrete or using a lighter asphalt to reflect the heat back into space.  We have been using less coal and gasoline because of natural gas, nuclear power, and higher gas mileages.  So asphalt might be a problem.  Also asphalt shingles absorb heat.  Maybe someone could do a study on this and be fair about it.  Makes far more sense.   

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« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2012, 09:26:44 AM »
Last May a highway by me was being resurfaced with asphalt. I was on the Guzzi when I turned off a concrete highway onto the asphalt one and my temp gauge jumped four degrees immediately.
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Re: Consequences of the severe drought accross Americas farmland.
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2012, 09:42:09 AM »
I honestly believe more paving and parking lots have a greater effect than burning fossil fuels.  I work in the natural gas industry.  We sell less gas today than in 1975.  Less indusrtrial demand, mostly replaced by power generation.  Natural gas in power generation produces far far less CO2.  A natural gas generator does double duty.  It is a jet engine converted to natural gas.  in the front, the shaft is connected to a generator.  In the rear the exaust goes through a boiler for steam generation of power.  Double output vs coal.  Less fuel, cleaner fuel.
 
Then the homes and new equipment use about half the gas a home used back then.  In 1975, the average furnace was about 60% efficient.  Today the manditory minimum is 80%, with most approaching 90%.  Water heaters use about 10-30% less gas than then.  Gas cooktops and ovens no longer have pilot lights, but spark ignition, thus saving 7%.  Homes are better insulated and use about 50% less heat needs than back then. 
 
That being said, in 1975 cars averaged 12-13 mpg.  Today the "corporate" average has to be 27, double from back then.  25% more cars than back then on the road, but half the gas mileage.  This was also done in Europe. 
 
So, when all is said and done, asphalt is the culprit in my opinion.  Urban spral, more shopping malls with parking lots.  If people want to "regulate" something to help, maybe changing building codes such as:
 
Lighter roof materials, multistory shopping areas instead of all one level, using more concrete vs asphalt for paving materials, more parking buildings, experiment on painting asphalt a light color (Florida has a lot of crushed shell paving which is lighter) and using a black outline on the striping, building semi underground homes.  Lots of things could be done to cut down on the heat. 

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Re: Consequences of the severe drought accross Americas farmland.
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2012, 10:08:55 AM »
It's definitely raising the intelligence level of Americans!  ;)
 
70 percent of people in U.S. now believe in climate change
http://www.examiner.com/article/70-percent-of-people-u-s-now-believe-climate-change

I thought everyone believed in climate change. Heck just today it was 68 this morning and then got up to 90. In the summer I run my air conditioner then in the winter I have to turn my furnace on, or my water lines freeze. Now that is some climate change there.

 Or are you talking about the climate change that is the new term used now for man made global warming, that our government wants everyone to believe, so they can further tell us how to live, and tell us what fuel we can't burn anymore, and what cars we can't drive? If its 70% that believe this, I guess I didn't realize there were that many ignorant people.         
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Re: Consequences of the severe drought accross Americas farmland.
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2012, 10:42:23 AM »
Well, we best prep on food now.  India is also having a drought and they have far more people to feed and had just gotten to where they can feed themselves in the last few years.