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Re: Terrorist strikes in Oak Creek, WI - six murdered
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2012, 03:32:00 PM »
Nothing personal I am just pointing out hypocrisy where I see it. Everytime someone takes a jab at Major Hasan or questions his motives for the shootings you are pretty quick to slap them down. Why doesn't this killer get the same consideration? How do you know the killer is a racist as opposed to a garden variety whack job? How do you know his motives were race or religion motivated? How do you know what he was thinking? Have you conversed with him personally? Once again like Sgt Bale you have already convicted this fruit loop as a racist mass murderer and christian terrorist while in other threads you trumpet Hasan is innocent until proven guilty. Why is that? Does Hasan get special treatment because of his religion?
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Re: Terrorist strikes in Oak Creek, WI - six murdered
« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2012, 01:33:38 AM »
Why doesn't this killer get the same consideration? How do you know the killer is a racist as opposed to a garden variety whack job? How do you know his motives were race or religion motivated? .... Once again like Sgt Bale you have already convicted this fruit loop as a racist mass murderer and christian terrorist while in other threads you trumpet Hasan is innocent until proven guilty. Why is that? Does Hasan get special treatment because of his religion?
Lakota, do you mean to make a case for not condemning an ethnicity or religion for the acts of individuals who are members of that religion or ethnicity? ???  If yes, let me be the first to applaud you for it!

To the question about how we know that this Page character who (allegedly) did the killings WI is a racist:  Well, I'm reading it on the intertoobs... lots of stuff coming out. Have you seen it?
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« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2012, 06:56:04 AM »
Why doesn't this killer get the same consideration? How do you know the killer is a racist as opposed to a garden variety whack job? How do you know his motives were race or religion motivated? .... Once again like Sgt Bale you have already convicted this fruit loop as a racist mass murderer and christian terrorist while in other threads you trumpet Hasan is innocent until proven guilty. Why is that? Does Hasan get special treatment because of his religion?
Lakota, do you mean to make a case for not condemning an ethnicity or religion for the acts of individuals who are members of that religion or ethnicity? ???  If yes, let me be the first to applaud you for it!

To the question about how we know that this Page character who (allegedly) did the killings WI is a racist:  Well, I'm reading it on the intertoobs... lots of stuff coming out. Have you seen it?
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  Let's let it shake out and then see..
   However, we do know it seems, that everytime that murderous Major Hassan is mentioned..you jump to his defense, or at least make excuses ior him !
  No need to debate that... we all know what you have been posting ever since Hassan's murder spree took place..
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Re: Terrorist strikes in Oak Creek, WI - six murdered
« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2012, 08:10:58 AM »
Why doesn't this killer get the same consideration? How do you know the killer is a racist as opposed to a garden variety whack job? How do you know his motives were race or religion motivated? .... Once again like Sgt Bale you have already convicted this fruit loop as a racist mass murderer and christian terrorist while in other threads you trumpet Hasan is innocent until proven guilty. Why is that? Does Hasan get special treatment because of his religion?
Lakota, do you mean to make a case for not condemning an ethnicity or religion for the acts of individuals who are members of that religion or ethnicity? ???  If yes, let me be the first to applaud you for it!

To the question about how we know that this Page character who (allegedly) did the killings WI is a racist:  Well, I'm reading it on the intertoobs... lots of stuff coming out. Have you seen it?
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  Let's let it shake out and then see..
   However, we do know it seems, that everytime that murderous Major Hassan is mentioned..you jump to his defense, or at least make excuses ior him !
  No need to debate that... we all know what you have been posting ever since Hassan's murder spree took place..

 
The only difference between Hassan and Page is that Hassan didn't have the decency to put the gun to his temple... Both were/are wastes of skin.
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« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2012, 11:07:22 AM »
I see the gov't has arrested Page's girlfriend on 'weapons charges' - this is BS. It's waaaay too easy to be a 'felon' these days, and unless there's serious violent crime involved, that ought not mean one loses their rights... to life, liberty, free speech, and... to bear arms.


IMHO, anyhows....
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« Reply #35 on: August 09, 2012, 06:34:42 AM »
Sikh brothers? ???
 
Sorry, I don't relate with any religious, ethnic or biological group. BTW You do know that Sikhism is a mix of Hindu and Muslim faith and Islam is known for their benevolence of other religions. ::)
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« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2012, 08:21:37 AM »
  BBF Says;
 
  " and Muslim faith and Islam is known for their benevolence of other religions."
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     ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   That's a rich one BBF...but of course, you cannot mean it!
 
 
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Re: Terrorist strikes in Oak Creek, WI - six murdered
« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2012, 01:26:42 AM »
Does anyone else find it funny that as soon as there is talk about the UN gun ban, we have a shooting in CO.  Then we have one in WI.  Am I crazy to think that there is a shady connection between those who wish to see guns outlawed and these shootings?  Or do I need to buy a tinfoil hat?
Are you serious ? WOW!!!! that tells me alot.

Of course I'm serious.  Tells you a lot about what?  That there are people that think that liberals can be violent people?  If a tree hugger will go to such links as to drive metal spikes into a tree to specifically cause harm to a chainsaw wielding logger, then why is it so far fetched for me to ponder the fact that a gun hating leftist would harm people specifically for the intent of seeing gun control pushed through congress...
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Re: Terrorist strikes in Oak Creek, WI - six murdered
« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2012, 02:38:52 AM »
Does anyone else find it funny that as soon as there is talk about the UN gun ban, we have a shooting in CO.  Then we have one in WI.  Am I crazy to think that there is a shady connection between those who wish to see guns outlawed and these shootings?  Or do I need to buy a tinfoil hat?
Are you serious ? WOW!!!! that tells me alot.

Of course I'm serious.  Tells you a lot about what?  That there are people that think that liberals can be violent people?  If a tree hugger will go to such links as to drive metal spikes into a tree to specifically cause harm to a chainsaw wielding logger, then why is it so far fetched for me to ponder the fact that a gun hating leftist would harm people specifically for the intent of seeing gun control pushed through congress...
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Re: Terrorist strikes in Oak Creek, WI - six murdered
« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2012, 03:18:01 AM »
Does anyone else find it funny that as soon as there is talk about the UN gun ban, we have a shooting in CO.  Then we have one in WI.  Am I crazy to think that there is a shady connection between those who wish to see guns outlawed and these shootings?  Or do I need to buy a tinfoil hat?
Are you serious ? WOW!!!! that tells me alot.

Of course I'm serious.  Tells you a lot about what?  That there are people that think that liberals can be violent people?  If a tree hugger will go to such links as to drive metal spikes into a tree to specifically cause harm to a chainsaw wielding logger, then why is it so far fetched for me to ponder the fact that a gun hating leftist would harm people specifically for the intent of seeing gun control pushed through congress...
Or,since a tragedy such as this increases the demand for citizens to arm themselves;  maybe it's the gun companies doing it so they can sell more guns. ::)
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Re: Terrorist strikes in Oak Creek, WI - six murdered
« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2012, 04:52:22 AM »
Does anyone else find it funny that as soon as there is talk about the UN gun ban, we have a shooting in CO.  Then we have one in WI.  Am I crazy to think that there is a shady connection between those who wish to see guns outlawed and these shootings?  Or do I need to buy a tinfoil hat?
Are you serious ? WOW!!!! that tells me alot.

Of course I'm serious.  Tells you a lot about what?  That there are people that think that liberals can be violent people?  If a tree hugger will go to such links as to drive metal spikes into a tree to specifically cause harm to a chainsaw wielding logger, then why is it so far fetched for me to ponder the fact that a gun hating leftist would harm people specifically for the intent of seeing gun control pushed through congress...
Or,since a tragedy such as this increases the demand for citizens to arm themselves;  maybe it's the gun companies doing it so they can sell more guns. ::)
Don't forget to check under your bed for the boggieman before going to sleep. ;D

And I suppose that "Fast and Furious" was just an imaginary boogey man dreamed up by a bunch of paranoid Mexicans? Or maybe the gun companies are responsible because they wanted to expand the market into Mexico?
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Re: Terrorist strikes in Oak Creek, WI - six murdered
« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2012, 05:05:32 AM »
...or maybe "Fast and Furious" was just a leftist president and his ilk trying to create a "reason" to desrtoy US citizens' 2nd Amendment rights.
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« Reply #42 on: August 10, 2012, 05:54:36 AM »
[quote author=yellowtail3 -----our Sikh brothers - ----

 
I didn't know you were a Sikh

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« Reply #43 on: August 10, 2012, 06:25:19 AM »
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And I suppose that "Fast and Furious" was just an imaginary boogey man dreamed up by a bunch of paranoid Mexicans? Or maybe the gun companies are responsible because they wanted to expand the market into Mexico?
 
 
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...or maybe "Fast and Furious" was just a leftist president and his ilk trying to create a "reason" to desrtoy US citizens' 2nd Amendment rights.
   
Sounds like myself and several other members of this discussion tend to believe that the Boogie man lives in Washington DC...
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« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2012, 06:43:02 AM »
Hawkeye: My father warned me about you...
Chingachgook, he warned me about people like you. He said "Do not try to understand them".
 "do not try to make them understand you. That is because they are a breed apart and make no sense".
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« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2012, 06:51:24 AM »
quote from yellowtail3:
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-----our Sikh brothers - ----
 
I didn't know you were a Sikh
Of course you wouldn't know that; I've never told you I am a Sikh.

Sikhs believe in the brotherhood of mankind, and the idea of pursuing justice for all peoples, not just white people who speak English, go to church, and vote Republican whilst thinking themselves broad-minded. They're also into the idea equality of all people - none of this 'our country is exceptional and blessed by God, therefore superior to yours!' garbage so popular these days.
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« Reply #46 on: August 10, 2012, 08:28:20 AM »
Hawkeye: My father warned me about you...
Chingachgook, he warned me about people like you. He said "Do not try to understand them".
 "do not try to make them understand you. That is because they are a breed apart and make no sense".

Since I "make no sense" because I harbor a deep distrust of the government then explain to me what "Fast and Furious" was good for? Oh and do it without such phrases as "But Bush...",or "Bush did something similar" or "Its Bush's fault..." or "Bush did XYZ..." Last time I checked BusHitler is no longer president Hip Hop Hitler is president and the botched Fast and Furious happened on Hip Hop Hitler's watch and not on BusHilter's watch. I am not interested in justifying the actions of the present administration by comparing them to the actions of past administrations. We were promised transparency by this administration and instead we got one of the most secretive and corrupt administrations in US history.
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« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2012, 02:35:01 AM »
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Hawkeye: My father warned me about you...
Chingachgook, he warned me about people like you. He said "Do not try to understand them".
 "do not try to make them understand you. That is because they are a breed apart and make no sense".
   Little know fact.  Hawkeye could see into the future and was talking about modern day liberals...  ;D
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« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2012, 03:30:12 AM »
So, Yellowtail, you do not believe in American exceptionalism for the last 250 years?  We started with limited government, private ownership of property and production, and a moral people (based on Christianity), thus grew to a superpower.  We have always "tolerated" others, but not put them above us.  John Adams said the constitution was written for a moral and religious people.  We have taken the best from Europe and made it ours, discarded the bad.  Yes, we had some issues to work out over the years like slavery, but we are rapidly becoming a socialist state like Greece, or worse, the old Soviet Union.  We reached our peek, morally, socially, economically, about 1960, without big government. 

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« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2012, 10:32:07 AM »
 

 none of this 'our country is exceptional and blessed by God, therefore superior to yours!' garbage so popular these days.


I guess there really are people that think this way. After all we have a president that doesn't believe in American exceptionalism.  Its no wonder we are coming apart at the seams.
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« Reply #50 on: August 13, 2012, 02:03:33 PM »
none of this 'our country is exceptional and blessed by God, therefore superior to yours!' garbage so popular these days.

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I guess there really are people that think this way. After all we have a
president that doesn't believe in American exceptionalism.  Its no wonder
we are coming apart at the seams.
Yeah, and I stand by it. That, and I don't think Jesus is a Republican.
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« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2012, 11:50:21 PM »
So the United States and our way of life is no better than any other country? Cuba? North Korea? China? Russia? I never heard anyone say that. I figure you are pretty much alone on this. Except for Obama and his "lets be just like Europe ideas".
 Wonder what being A Republican has to do with thinking that the US was the greatest nation ever formed.

You're right Yellowtail Jesus is not a Republican, and he's not a liberal democrat either.   
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« Reply #52 on: August 14, 2012, 01:50:23 AM »
Guess he never heard of what the founding fathers said in their writings and letters.  Guess he never heard of the "Great Awakening" revival in the early 1800's America.  The Civil War, the supreme court chief justice in 1892 saying America is a Christian nation and her laws are based on Christian Principles.  We didn't have to fight WWI or WWII either, not for territory or material gain, but for principles. 
 
It was only after 1963 when the supreme court took out prayer and bible reading in public schools, did we begin to unravel as a nation.  Like I have said elsewhere in 1960 we had 50% of Americans attending church regular.  85% with health care.  STD's were almost eliminated.  Most childhood disease was almost eliminated.  God was blessing our nation, not because everyone was Christians, but it was guided by Christian Principles. 
 
Sikhs are ok, and should be left alone, they are no threat to us.  Same with Buddists.  Muslims on the otherhand are a warlike people.  Look at almost all the civil wars and conflicts in the world, 22 at last count, and 20 of them involve Muslims.  Doesn't that speak for itself.  Only problem with Sikhs is that they dress like Muslims and draw steriotypical opinion to themselves.  They could keep their beards and turbens, but maybe dress more western.  If their women wore modest western clothing, it wouldn't draw attention, especially from a skinhead, KKK, or Nazi.  We have enough trouble with the far left running the country now. 

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« Reply #53 on: August 14, 2012, 04:43:42 PM »
Guess he never heard of what the founding fathers said in their writings and letters.  Guess he never heard of the "Great Awakening"...
If you mean me... wrong on all count. I'm pretty well educated on American history. 

I don't think American lives are worth more than those of other peoples' in the world, and I don't think we have any manifest destiny or that God smiles on us as the expense of others. Not a bit.
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« Reply #54 on: August 16, 2012, 02:16:03 AM »
I could seethe liberal committing these heinous acts to forward their agenda. I mean anyone who considers killing a baby as a "choice" is obviously immoral.
 
As for American Exceptionalism, all one has to do is look the this years summer Olympics.
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« Reply #55 on: August 16, 2012, 05:38:46 AM »
American exceptionalism.  Well, we developed mass production of goods using identical parts.  We built the first transcontenintal railroad.  We invented the steamboat, iron or steel ships, submarines, telegraph, telephone, phonograph, moving pictures, television, developed ac electric power, went to the moon.  Without us, WWI and WWII would have been lost by the allies.  We developed hybrid corn, wheat, and rice back in the 60's which kept the world from starvation.  We were the first to mass produce automobiles.  We invented the airplane.  We took inventions from others and mass produced them for the most people to enjoy.  We invented the sewing machine, the spinning jenney, cotton gin.  We developed the steel plow and harvesting machines.  We invented photography, the transistor, computer chip(s), computers, as well as the PC, iPhones, iPads, Teflon, ball point pen, typewriter, memograph, cast iron stove, discovered electricity, floppy disks, CD's and DVD's, broke the sound barrier, built the Panama canal.  Developed the highest standard of living for anyone anywhere in the world.  Everyone wants to come here, everyone really wants to be like us.  We developed the caplock gun, cartridges, rifling, repeater rifles.  We developed the refrigerator and refrigerating equipment, concentrated orange juice, canning of meat, refrigerated rail cars and trucks, milking machines.  We conquered measles, polio, mumps, whooping cough, and other diseases.  We developed antibiotics, and blood tranfusions.  We developed MRI machines, CAT scans.  We developed the laser, laser surgery, and industrial lasers.  We developed various welding techniques. 
 
This is just some of the things Americans have done to improve the lives of everyone in the world, and America isn't exceptional?  BS.   

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« Reply #56 on: August 16, 2012, 04:55:57 PM »
Guess he never heard of what the founding fathers said in their writings and letters.  Guess he never heard of the "Great Awakening"...
If you mean me... wrong on all count. I'm pretty well educated on American history. 

I don't think American lives are worth more than those of other peoples' in the world, and I don't think we have any manifest destiny or that God smiles on us as the expense of others. Not a bit.
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  The door swiings both ways YT..  How about trying Djbouti, Somalia, Syria, or North Korea...
 
Hey, how about Kenya..lots of great men come from there.  But if that's true...why isn't Kenya great ?
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« Reply #57 on: August 17, 2012, 12:49:00 AM »
The door swiings both ways YT..  How about trying Djbouti, Somalia, Syria, or North Korea...
most doors do, but what does that mean here?
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« Reply #58 on: August 17, 2012, 01:41:46 AM »
The door swiings both ways YT..  How about trying Djbouti, Somalia, Syria, or North Korea...
most doors do, but what does that mean here?

Actually most doors don't.
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Re: Terrorist strikes in Oak Creek, WI - six murdered
« Reply #59 on: August 17, 2012, 10:35:54 AM »
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Actually most doors don't.

 
 
 
Yeah, we all know that.  But, don't stop him.  He's on a roll.  Kind of like Belushi in Animal House when he started talking about the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor.      ;D :o
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