It appears that "voter fraud" was another "Chicken Little" example

[guzzijohn]

From the Wichita Eagle:


http://www.kansas.com/2012/08/13/2448740/voter-fraud-found-to-be-rare-survey.html


Looks like much money and energy has been wasted over this.
GuzziJohn

[magooch]

The study doesn't explain how in close elections, the Dumycrats seem to always find missing bags of votes--just in time to push them over the top where recounts are called for.  What is the explanation for some precincts reporting significantly more votes than they have voters?
 
Anyway, I still favor voter I.D., but that is somewhat of a dilemma in my state, because all of our voting is by mail.  I like this method of voting, but I believe that voters should have to appear in person with positive identification to apply for a ballot. 
 
However, I fully realize that there is no system that cannot be tinkered with by those who are bent on cheating and rigging.  Otherwise known as the Dumycrat Party.

[ironglow]

  The best way to keep it honest.. is to keep it honest!  ...with voter ID!
 
  We have had our economy and medical care of this country destroyed because of a couple hundred illegal, fraudulent votes.
 http://washingtonexaminer.com/york-when-1099-felons-vote-in-race-won-by-312-ballots/article/2504163
 
  If the comedian Al Frankin had not been fraudulently placed in govt..we would not have been cursed with Obamacare.  One crook, assisted by at least 312 others, have put our nation on it's way to bankruptcy.. .

[rickt300]

Anyone that thinks voter fraud is insignificant is either pandering to the left or is clueless. I feel it got Obama elected via ACORN. I think voter fraud should be a felony with a 1 year minimum jail sentence. Why for any reason should we let someone vote that cannot identify themselves? Cannot prove citizenship?

[guzzijohn]

Regardless of what one thinks of the Wichita paper the article was very detailed and the study appears to be well done and legit. All the ballyhoo over voter fraud and the need for IDs has further divided this country and cost personal and tax payer money, and for what? Conservatives sure don't mind wasting money when it fits their wants.

GuzziJohn

[DDZ]

Funny how the only ones that are against voter identification are democrats, and groups like NAACP. To think that ACORN didn't commit any fraud when they conducted their large scale voter registration drives is absurd.  Voter fraud fits the democrats MO perfectly. Funny how democrats are all for removing other rights like gun ownership, but are whining about voters rights when voter identification is mentioned. Like they care at all about protecting rights.

I see Natasha Khan is one of the authors. Wonder if thats the London hippie Natasha, who quit school so she could sit in her room and listen to Nirvana all day? I'm sure both her and Corbin were well indoctrinated in liberal style journalism, along with the rest of the students that did the so called investigation on voter fraud. Because they did this study, we are to believe its all fact. Some of us didn't just fall off the turnip truck.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/297461/reality-voter-fraud-john-fund

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/opinion/jack-kelly/voter-fraud-is-real-224753/

http://www.usnews.com/debate-club/is-voter-fraud-a-real-problem/voter-fraud-is-a-proven-election-manipulation-tactic

[rickt300]

Regardless of what one thinks of the Wichita paper the article was very detailed and the study appears to be well done and legit. All the ballyhoo over voter fraud and the need for IDs has further divided this country and cost personal and tax payer money, and for what? Conservatives sure don't mind wasting money when it fits their wants.

GuzziJohn

Having an ID is wasting money? You hard left types are classic examples of intellectual poverty.

[magooch]

You've got to give liberals credit though; they believe in winning--no matter what it takes and no matter how much rationalization.

[Cuts Crooked]

I'm not impressed by the "findings". It appears to be the efforts of a bunch of journalism students, and also appears to have been prejudicial from it's outset.

I simply cannot believe the results! There is more voting misconduct in one Chicago precinct than they claim happens nation wide!

[mechanic]

Here are a few reasons we need ID.  You can't buy a house, a car, or even a bottle of booze without ID......
 
Ben
 
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/dead-people-voting-throughout-florida/nFCnL/
 
http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/11/video-nh-poll-workers-shown-handing-out-ballots-in-dead-peoples-names/
 
http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com/2012/02/14/accountability/executive/dead-people-voting/
 
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Dead-voted-in-governor-s-race-1163612.php
 
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/01/south-carolina-attorney-general-we-know-for-a-fact-that-dead-people-are-voting-video/
 
http://www.texaswatchdog.org/2008/10/dead-voters-still-registered-in-harris-county/
 
http://www.ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/3000_dead_people_registered_to_vote_in_Ohio

[Cuts Crooked]

Here are a few reasons we need ID.  You can't buy a house, a car, or even a bottle of booze without ID......
 
Ben
 
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/dead-people-voting-throughout-florida/nFCnL/
 
http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/11/video-nh-poll-workers-shown-handing-out-ballots-in-dead-peoples-names/
 
http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com/2012/02/14/accountability/executive/dead-people-voting/
 
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Dead-voted-in-governor-s-race-1163612.php
 
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/01/south-carolina-attorney-general-we-know-for-a-fact-that-dead-people-are-voting-video/
 
http://www.texaswatchdog.org/2008/10/dead-voters-still-registered-in-harris-county/
 
http://www.ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/3000_dead_people_registered_to_vote_in_Ohio

...........and all of those would appear to contradict the claims of the article linked to in the OP. Big Surprize huh?

[DDZ]

Regardless of what one thinks of the Wichita paper the article was very detailed and the study appears to be well done and legit. All the ballyhoo over voter fraud and the need for IDs has further divided this country and cost personal and tax payer money, and for what? Conservatives sure don't mind wasting money when it fits their wants.

GuzziJohn

Ok, what shall we do? Close our eyes and just pretend there is no voter fraud happening, because some lost, liberal journalist students said so. Lets just sweep it under the rug since the majority of the fraud is benefiting the Marxists. Is that the idea? It appears to be.   

[billy_56081]

Regardless of what one thinks of the Wichita paper the article was very detailed and the study appears to be well done and legit. All the ballyhoo over voter fraud and the need for IDs has further divided this country and cost personal and tax payer money, and for what? Conservatives sure don't mind wasting money when it fits their wants.

GuzziJohn

When the propaganda supports ones agenda of course to that side it seems "legit". Not having an ID and being allowed to vote, now that is a moronic statement. Seriously how can this not lead to fraud? Remember lefties, the sword can cut both ways. Here in MN all you need to vote is a registered voter to vouch for you and you can vote.

[Cuts Crooked]

Hey Guzzi!!!!!!!Check this one out. http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,262777.0.html

[crustylicious]

 I read all the articles. Looks like innuendo and anecdotal evidence trump documented court cases.

[Cuts Crooked]

I read all the articles. Looks like innuendo and anecdotal evidence trump documented court cases.

Of course Crusty.....but then it's a little difficult to get a court case going when the "authorities" refuse to deal with it, isn't it?

[ironglow]

   The obvious fact is that even for the poorest citizens, it is just as easy for them to get legal ID as it is for any of us.
 
  It is however, a bit more difficult for illegal aliens to get legal American citizenship ID..
 
   But let's be honest here..that's what this is REALLY all about..getting the illegal vote!

[DDZ]

   The obvious fact is that even for the poorest citizens, it is just as easy for them to get legal ID as it is for any of us.
 
  It is however, a bit more difficult for illegal aliens to get legal American citizenship ID..
 
   But let's be honest here..that's what this is REALLY all about..getting the illegal vote!

Right IG. It doesn't matter to the democratic party if someone votes 10 times or if illegals vote. Its all about getting votes. Its the reason they are so fussed up about voter identification.

[powderman]

Fraud is why the dems are so dead set against photo IDS, they need the criminal votes. POWDERMAN. 

[mechanic]

If a person is really poor they can qualify to many assistance programs.......they can't get any of them without ID.  Medicaid?  ID.   HUD?  ID.
The only reason for NOT requiring ID is so people can vote illegally.

Ben

[ironglow]

THey don't want voter ID..because somebody may get suspicious after the 45th photo ID with a photo of a Dalmatian or Pit Bull..
   Here's the real story;
    http://usbacklash.org/probe-needed-as-democrats-ready-2012-voter-fraud-dead-people-children-pets-registered-to-vote/
 
 

[powderman]

The only reason for NOT requiring ID is so people can vote illegally.

Ben

 
BEN. BINGO, and it's the liberal democrats who are against it. POWDERMAN. 

[mcwoodduck]

The whole Illegal deportion exucitive order is all about allowing young Illegals the ability to get a drivers license and with that register to vote.  Most DMV have a box to check for voting and are never checked.  This is more of the Obama/ Democrat Machine at work to fix the voter rolls.
They have a victory at all costs mentality.  Remember the thousands of dead people in Illonis that voted for JFK?
 

[Empty Quiver]

I read all the articles. Looks like innuendo and anecdotal evidence trump documented court cases.

So protecting the rights of a couple dozen imbeciles who cannot get themselves a photo ID is worth the efforts of dozens of Democratically backed attorneys? This handful of imbeciles is worth millions in legal fees?
 
Voting is such a sacred event so sacrosanct that it cannot be put to the same standards as cashing a check, as purchasing a Black & Mild Blunt, as picking up a can of Copenhagen Snuff? No more important than the purchase of an allergy tablet or a box of wine?
 
Your friends are used to swaying the opinion of imbeciles, I am not buying what they are selling. When they have the backbone to admit that voting rights issues are more about pushing forward a socialist agenda than adhering to the law I will listen attentively.

[ironglow]

The only reason for NOT requiring ID is so people can vote illegally.

Ben

 
BEN. BINGO, and it's the liberal democrats who are against it. POWDERMAN. 

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   C'mon guys..that's not nice...  One would think that you guys are saying that the Democrats, led by the Chicago mob... may just be into dishonest voting practices..    

[crustylicious]

[powderman]

EMPTY QUIVER. Good post Sir. POWDERMAN. 

[justme]

My father voted Republican till the day he died.....now he votes Democrat...

[two-blocked]

My father voted Republican till the day he died.....now he votes Democrat...

That would make a great signature line!
 

[powderman]

My father voted Republican till the day he died.....now he votes Democrat...

That would make a great signature line!

 
YES it would. POWDERMAN.