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Offline Jason F

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300 blackout rimmed ready to go
« on: August 14, 2012, 05:41:14 PM »
Got brass made up. 357 max brass cut down and annealed and loaded with 9 grains lilgun and 220 rn loaded to 2.220.   .018 off of rifling.  Should have some kind of range report tomorrow.
handi rifles- 22 mag      22 hornet    223      7mm-08      308 chip shot     30-30 x2     30-06 shorty      358 cheez whiz     357 max     35 remington     375-08    410 rifled slug     454 casull     460 s&w     45 smokeless muzzleloader x2     45-70    50 huntsman    50-70 government shikari     20 ga.ush     12 ga.ush    12 ga.3 1/2     10 ga.imp.cyl. slug gun

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Re: 300 blackout rimmed ready to go
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2012, 05:48:32 PM »
Looking good!!!


Quit teasing us and shoot it!!

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Re: 300 blackout rimmed ready to go
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2012, 03:07:44 PM »
Cool man, hope it works well for you.  8)
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Re: 300 blackout rimmed ready to go
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2012, 03:22:29 PM »
Shoots great, only trouble i am having is the round ejecting. The max brass is.  .003 thicker at base than 300 blackout brass and you cant size far enough down  because of shellholder.  Gonna polish chamber and do conversion on ejector to extractor and put bb under spring.
handi rifles- 22 mag      22 hornet    223      7mm-08      308 chip shot     30-30 x2     30-06 shorty      358 cheez whiz     357 max     35 remington     375-08    410 rifled slug     454 casull     460 s&w     45 smokeless muzzleloader x2     45-70    50 huntsman    50-70 government shikari     20 ga.ush     12 ga.ush    12 ga.3 1/2     10 ga.imp.cyl. slug gun

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Re: 300 blackout rimmed ready to go
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2012, 05:23:14 PM »
I understand the desire to play around with something new but this round just doesn't make any sense to me. Honestly what is it good for? What is it about this round that's causing all the hoopla?
 
 
 
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Re: 300 blackout rimmed ready to go
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2012, 06:18:05 PM »
Let me explain ::) First, we have what we really NEED.......which could actually be met by a modified choke pump 12 ga. Period
Then there is everything else..... ie what we WANT......
Most of us will never shoot at elk, moose or anything big. Deer season for most of us is a few weeks at best. Most of us do not have access to long range shooting. Most of us live and shoot relatively close to populated areas. Most of us want to be at least moderately frugal. Most of us I think would like to have something that is at least somewhat rare or exotic, that not every person on your block has.
Not everyone has a macho complex and wants to experience bone crushing recoil. Not everyone wants to get a tan from muzzle flash. I have several handi's. Only two of them are not basically stored away. A Hornet, and a 357. The rest are fun, and have a purpose, but for 90% of what I actually do with a gun, they are useless. I cannot justify the expense, noise, recoil, range, power, and danger factor of using them. Even as we speak I have the 357 on the table waiting for the coon that keeps tearing up my wife's bird feeder to come back into the yard. I am surrounded by neighbors, not  extremely close, but several within 1/4 mile. They have livestock, some as close as 150 yards. I sat down and thought about characteristics of the gun that fit what I do with one.

It needed to be able to throw bullets heavier than the Hornet, at 34 gr .
It needed to be quieter than the 357. It also needed to throw lighter bullets than the 158 gr 357's.
It needed to be cheap and easy to load.
It needed to be able to handle cast bullets as well as jacketed.
There needs to be more or less frangible bullets available for it, to prevent ricochet.
I want a case small enough to use pistol powders and have reasonable load density.
It should be a case that is readily available or could be made from one that is.
It needs to be reasonably accurate with various loads from 50 to 150 yards.
It needs to be factory available.

I set down and analyzed. I want a 32/20. They don't and won't make it. I want a 256 winchester (or 25/20) They don't and won't make it. I want a 327 Federal. They don't and won't make it. Even a 30 carbine (I really don't like rimless cartridges) OK.

I want a 300AAC. At least for the moment, THEY MAKE IT.

Now, I don't want to hear about how you can download a 30-06, and I won't tell you to take the grand kids to the park in a semi. I don't need to hear about killing them just as dead with a 7-08, and I won't recommend you buy size 14 shoes even though you have size 8 1/2 feet.  Not that I would object to you wearing them, it is just that I want a fit.

SO. We want one because it fits what we like to do. How hard can that be?

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Re: 300 blackout rimmed ready to go
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2012, 07:41:55 PM »
Well said. I just wanted something different. Now i can put it in the safe with the other 50 rifles i got after i get it shooting good then i will move on to something else. I am still trying to talk BB into making me a profino 50 bmg liner barrel in my 10 gauge.   ;D ;D ;D
handi rifles- 22 mag      22 hornet    223      7mm-08      308 chip shot     30-30 x2     30-06 shorty      358 cheez whiz     357 max     35 remington     375-08    410 rifled slug     454 casull     460 s&w     45 smokeless muzzleloader x2     45-70    50 huntsman    50-70 government shikari     20 ga.ush     12 ga.ush    12 ga.3 1/2     10 ga.imp.cyl. slug gun

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Re: 300 blackout rimmed ready to go
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2012, 12:39:52 AM »
What Twoshooter said!!!
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Can I quote you, Twoshooter??

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Re: 300 blackout rimmed ready to go
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2012, 12:52:00 AM »
I understand the desire to play around with something new but this round just doesn't make any sense to me. Honestly what is it good for? What is it about this round that's causing all the hoopla?
 
 
 
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I agree the .30-30 could do exacty the same thing.
 
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Re: 300 blackout rimmed ready to go
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2012, 01:39:07 AM »
The main advantage I see to a 300 BO is free brass.   At my club I pickup between 100 & 200 once fired 223 cases every month.  It is very easy and straight forward to make 300 BO brass from 223 Rem brass.  If you cast your own boolits I would think the 300 BO would be about the cheapest CF rifle you could plink with. 
 
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Re: 300 blackout rimmed ready to go
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2012, 01:46:49 AM »
I myself have no real use for it, but for you all who can take advantage of a new barrel offering I think it is cool that someone stepped up and got the ball rolling. I hope it does what they originally said it would and the folks who can use the silencers and all with them get to use them to the potential they were designed for. It is always fun to get a new project and tinker with loads until you get it right.
Good luck with the projects gang and I hope they are all they originally said they would be.  :)
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Re: 300 blackout rimmed ready to go
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2012, 02:32:04 AM »
I agree the .30-30 could do exacty the same thing.
I wear size ten boots. I could stuff enough newspaper into a pair of size 14 boots to be able to wear them, but I don't think many would say it was exactly the same thing. (thanks Twoshooter)


Desert gear is different from swamp gear.


Town gear is different from boonies gear.


My gear is different from your gear.


...not.....exacty the same...

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Re: 300 blackout rimmed ready to go
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2012, 03:01:04 AM »
I guess the only 30 cal you really need is the 06 and download it for the rest of the 30's.
Then you could get the whelen to cover the 35's
why mess with the worthless hornet when you can get a 22-250

handi rifles- 22 mag      22 hornet    223      7mm-08      308 chip shot     30-30 x2     30-06 shorty      358 cheez whiz     357 max     35 remington     375-08    410 rifled slug     454 casull     460 s&w     45 smokeless muzzleloader x2     45-70    50 huntsman    50-70 government shikari     20 ga.ush     12 ga.ush    12 ga.3 1/2     10 ga.imp.cyl. slug gun

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Re: 300 blackout rimmed ready to go
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2012, 04:01:55 AM »
When I was a kid I "barked" a few squirrels with a 30-40 Krag.


Maybe you are being too generous with the calibers; maybe we should be limited to fewer calibers as well as fewer cartridges.


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You want .204, go ahead. I don't need it, but I don't care if you use it.

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Re: 300 blackout rimmed ready to go
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2012, 10:55:39 AM »
I took a partridge's head off with my Krag when walking to my buddies house to deer hunt one year.  ;)
Tacklebury --}>>>>>    Multi-Barrel: .223 Superlite, 7mm-08 22", .30-40 Krag M158, .357 Maximum 16-1/4 HB, .45 Colt, .45-70 22" irons, 32" .45-70 Peeps, 12 Ga. 3-1/2 w/ Chokes, .410 Smooth slugger, .45 Cal Muzzy, .50 Cal Muzzy, .58 Cal Muzzy

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Re: 300 blackout rimmed ready to go
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2012, 03:24:28 PM »
And I got a deer with 350 Chevy on my way to work! ??? 8) :-*
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Re: 300 blackout rimmed ready to go
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2012, 03:26:57 PM »
I guess the only 30 cal you really need is the 06 and download it for the rest of the 30's.
Then you could get the whelen to cover the 35's
why mess with the worthless hornet when you can get a 22-250

You missed the point.
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Re: 300 blackout rimmed ready to go
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2012, 05:02:16 PM »
The point was ...... well, lets use Larry the cable guy :o who said" I was going with this midget stripper, she jumped out of cupcakes. She looked JUST LIKE Michelle Pfeiffer........'cept she was shorter....... and her hair was different,...... and she had smaller boobs.... ::) ." So other 30 caliber cartridges now available in handi's (30/30,308,30/06) are JUST LIKE a 300AAC (or 32/20) only- they are larger, heavier, take more storage space, don't work as well with very fast powders, are not as cheap to get brass for......  :P
We love you guys, but sometimes ....... less is...... more ;D
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