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Offline THE_HUNTERIAM

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BAR accuracy?
« on: August 17, 2012, 11:26:46 AM »
Looking at one day getting a BAR in .338. Wondering how accurate they are against a bolt action. This would include older rifles and the newer production ones. Thanks!
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Re: BAR accuracy?
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2012, 03:28:16 AM »
The one I owned was very accurate and as a bonus the lightest recoiling 338wm I've ever shot. It functioned pretty reliable but you had to pay close attention to the way you loaded the mag. In the end I sold it since I needed something that was 100% reliable.

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Re: BAR accuracy?
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2012, 09:01:07 AM »
What was the magazine issue? Looking at maybe getting one if I get up to Alaska but need to make sure current buily ones are 100% reliable.
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Re: BAR accuracy?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2012, 09:27:13 AM »
My Lightweight BAR in .243 with 20" barrel shoots under an inch. Don't have any issues with it. I do pull the bold back and let it fly home when loading as should be done with all self loading loading guns. My Browning A bolt in .270 does also about half the time.
 
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Re: BAR accuracy?
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2012, 06:43:37 PM »
You just half to make sure the belt on the cartridges don't get hooked up on the one below it. Just make sure all the cases are back tight against the back of the mag. The newer guns are harder to do that with because the mags came out on the older guns, but the newer ones are hinged.
I only had problems with the belted mag cartridges. The 30-06 cases feed fine in the BARs I've had. 

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Re: BAR accuracy?
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2012, 08:17:43 AM »
I have a 300 win mag in the Winchester super X rifle version and it puts em in the same hole just like a good bolt gun. And it soaks up recoil real nice too . 
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Re: BAR accuracy?
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2012, 09:24:34 PM »
My only experience is with the 1918 BAR, but it was plenty accurate.   Used to hunt jacks with one during my service days.    ;) 
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Re: BAR accuracy?
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2012, 04:24:42 PM »
Ihave one in 3006 it is every bit as acurate as my a bolt in 270 both are capable o 1inc groups or less as long as I do my part .that said I have ruger #1 that will out shoot either one any time.
 
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Re: BAR accuracy?
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2012, 06:39:20 PM »
 I had a BAR in .338 for awhile. It was back in the late '90s. I wanted to see how they shot, though, at the time, I had two bolt guns in .338 Win and 300 Win. I decided to give it a Bible school classmate of mine who wanted to hunt elk, but hated recoil so I ended up having it MagNaPorted . It was indeed very soft in recoil then. I only shot the Winchester factory 200gr Ballistic Tips in it, but it was a tack driver! My Belgium made BAR in .270 shoots some loads very well (sub moa) and a guy in my church has a BAR in 30.06 that is also a shooter.
Back in the late '60s, when I was 16 (44yrs ago!) I worked for a furniture store whose owner hunted deer every year out in West Texas. He had a Belgium made BAR in 30.06 and his only gripe was that it only handled the 180gr loads. He claimed it would jam with the 150s, all these factory loads then. Those 180 Corlokts were pretty tough to use on Hill Country whitetail with many running a long way before expiring. Another young guy, later in the mid '70s had a .300 BAR and I had a 7mm Remmag BAR. He shot a lot of deer with his, I shot only one. I got good accuracy with it, but that particular rifle was a jamomatic for some reason. It was 20yrs later before I bought the above mentioned .338. I got this .270 in 2001, and it is a sweetheart. Good luck to you!
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Re: BAR accuracy?
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2012, 01:05:15 PM »
I have a set of BAR dies by RCBS in 7mm Rem Mag.  They are for sale.
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Re: BAR accuracy?
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2012, 12:56:00 AM »
So Charles, what makes these BAR dies?  :o

Do you mean small base dies?

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Re: BAR accuracy?
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2013, 08:50:09 PM »
I owned a 30-06 BAR Safari in the early 90's.  It was as accurate as any bolt action with a number of different bullets.  It would concistently shoot 1/2" to 3/4" CTC at 100 YDs.  Sold this gun to my best friend after I had it a couple of years. (Its a long story)
 
I recently bought a new 7mm-08 BAR ShortTrac and as expected, and its accuracy is eveything I've learned to expect from a BAR.  While I've only had time to work up a couple of loads so far, both of them are sub MOA loads.  I have no doube that with a little load tweaking and a bit more trigger time with this rifle, I'll be able to get them down in the 1/2"-3/4" range.
 
A key to shooting really tight groups with a BAR is to let the barrel cool between shots. While this is totally unnecessary in a hunting "quick second shot" situation, you do need to let the barrel cool a bit at the range to get those "bolt" action type groups.  I also have a 7mm-08 Remingtion Mountian LSS with the sportster barrel and I also have to let it cool a bit between shots to get those really tight groups.
 
By the way, just for your info, on the newer BAR's the mag floorplate is hinged, and the mag swings down with the floorplate when opened; however, the mag itself IS detachable from the floorplate.
 
As far is dependability goes, I have never had a failure to load or eject in either of my BAR's.
 
Go ahead and get you one... you won't regret it!
 
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Re: BAR accuracy?
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2013, 05:35:10 AM »
The Dies are RCBS and are marked for BAR in 7mm Rem Mag.  I feel certain they are a form of small base made to BAR specs.
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Re: BAR accuracy?
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2013, 08:09:46 AM »
The reason I went with the Winchester Super X rifle was because it had a real detachable mag, but its still a Belgium made Browning.
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