Author Topic: .357 Maximum (Read 6582 times)

Badnews Bob · « **Reply #30 on:** February 10, 2004, 07:29:48 AM »

Its in the mail. :box: :jeep: :yeah: :toast: :mrgreen:

BIGBOREFAN · « **Reply #31 on:** February 10, 2004, 07:37:16 AM »

YEHAAA :toast: :music: :gulp: :-D :-D Thanks BNB.

BBF

338 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 10, 2004, 07:43:00 AM »

Calm down BBF, your gonna get your blood pressure up :oops: . :wink:
J/K :biggun: :yeah: :toast: :blaster:

BIGBOREFAN · « **Reply #33 on:** February 10, 2004, 07:58:49 AM »

Can not waite to shoot my first reload thru it let alone take my first deer with the 357 max and my own handload. I'm sure it will be a great feeling. :-D

BBF

.308 · « **Reply #34 on:** February 10, 2004, 08:31:25 AM »

:grin: :grin: fore ya know it you'll be, "Rollin' yer own." :yeah:

BIGBOREFAN · « **Reply #35 on:** February 10, 2004, 08:39:26 AM »

Hows it gone 308

I should be loadin for the max by next weekend :-D Have you deciced on a powder yet.

BBF

.308 · « **Reply #36 on:** February 10, 2004, 09:04:35 AM »

Quote from: BIGBOREFAN

Hows it gone 308 I should be loadin for the max by next weekend :-D Have you deciced on a powder yet.
BBF

Doin' 'Fine and Dandy.' How ya'll?

Yeah, I'm gonna start with H110 and WW296 cause I have those on hand. If that don't do to suit me I'll try some of that IMR or H4227 or Hodgdon Lil Gun. Oh, I forgot I got some WW680 and RL-7 I will try too. :wink:

BIGBOREFAN · « **Reply #37 on:** February 10, 2004, 09:25:35 AM »

Good deal that gives me some more choices to think about. Better write them down in my little reloadin book. TC

BBF

.308 · « **Reply #38 on:** February 10, 2004, 09:46:00 AM »

:oops:, I really need to check to see what all I have on hand that is will work with the Max. I know I have all those I mentioned, and I have some Unique, 2400, WW231, 700X, Bullseye, and HP-38 in the shotgun/pistol powders. I know some of those are a bit fast. I was gonna try the 'slower' pistol powders first, sorry I forgot I have some 2400 on hand, it's another slower pistol powder in the range of H110 and 296. Anyhow, I got a bunch that will work, the fun will be finding out which one(s) work best. I got a bunch of 158-160 grain hard cast SWC's I wanna give a try along with the 180 XTP's, and the next time I order from Midway I'm gonna get me a box of the Rem. 180 grainers made for the Max. and I may get some Rem. 200 grainers made for the .35 Remington and such. Can't wait. :wink:

Leftoverdj · « **Reply #39 on:** February 10, 2004, 12:09:02 PM »

I dug out a Hercules Guide from the heyday of the max. For 180 grain bullets it shows top charges of 14.9 Blue Dot, 16.8 2400, 25.0 RE-7. For 200s, it shows 11.6 Blue Dot, 14.1 2400, 22.3 RE-7. As always, start 10% low and work up.

All three powders should give hunting load velocities with the 180 bullets, but only RE-7 was giving real good velocity w/ the 200s.

.308 · « **Reply #40 on:** February 10, 2004, 03:05:22 PM »

Thanks DJ, I'll print this for reference. I forgot to add those Rem. 200's when I made my last Midway order. I already have a list for another order so put them on my list. You say the RN's worked better than the pointy ones in the heavier bullets? :wink:

Leftoverdj · « **Reply #41 on:** February 10, 2004, 05:17:49 PM »

I dunno about spitzers in the Max. Never tried any. I'm pretty sure 180 or 200 would stabilize, but have my doubts about whether they would expand. Most of those bullets were designed for .358 Win or .35 Whelen and velocities 500 fps or more than you can get from the Max.

Daveinthebush · « **Reply #42 on:** February 10, 2004, 08:01:12 PM »

Leftoverdj: There is a 180 Speer flat nose, 180 RN Speer, Sierra, Hornady and a 150 Rem. softpoint that are designed for the lower velocities. A well stocked store with reloading supplies should have some. I would not even be afraid to try a 200 RN.

Also there should be a 150 grain SSP out there.

Keep up the expermentation and find something that works before I start reloading for mine. :roll:

Leftoverdj · « **Reply #43 on:** February 10, 2004, 08:19:17 PM »

Dave, I'm more of a cast bullet shooter than anything else, but any bullet meant for the .35 Rem will work fine in the Max. Up where you are, the 200 grain RNs are probably your best bet because they will give better penetration while still expanding.

For those of us who aren't likely to shoot anything bigger than a whitetail, the 180 grain Hornady XTPs or the 180 grain Remingtons were designed with the Max in mind. The 150 grain Rem is obsolete, but there are still some floating around.

Badnews Bob · « **Reply #44 on:** February 10, 2004, 09:08:33 PM »

Hornady makes a SP SSP 180gr (single shot pistol) bullet I don't know about expansion but it burnt right thru a piece of 1/4" steel at 50 yrds, and almost went thru a peice of 1/2" steel this babys stout.

BIGBOREFAN · « **Reply #45 on:** February 11, 2004, 03:14:46 AM »

Thanks for the info DJ. Will make sure I log those. :grin:

BBF

22KHornet · « **Reply #46 on:** February 11, 2004, 03:53:55 AM »

Hey guys I have tested out the 180 grn ssp from hornady and it actually expanded more than the 180 xtp, but it did not have as good penitration. I have also killed a whitetail with them before I decided to just stick with the xtp. The only real advatage that I can think of is they have a better ballistic coificiant (32 and still can't spell :oops: ) and will have less bullet drop on long range shots, like that really matters with the max :roll: Anyway they are still kind of fun but look funky when you have a straightwalled case and a pointed bullet just my :money:

Daveinthebush · « **Reply #47 on:** February 11, 2004, 04:48:28 AM »

There was a guy posting here a while back that had remington do a run of 10,000 150 Sprie Points and was selling them.

You might find his name in the old posts if you do a search.

Leftoverdj: You must be a southern boy. Up north in Northern NY the deer are pretty good sized and I have shot at least 2 with the Contender that dressed 175 lbs.

Those southern deer all you need is a turkey vest to hunt them with. :roll:

BIGBOREFAN · « **Reply #48 on:** February 12, 2004, 10:20:42 AM »

Hey guys I just ordered my Lee hand press and some Hornady XTP's from Natchez. :-) Had to order my 357 max brass from Midway. Ordered the 100 pack for now. You now UPS shipping was 12.20 Heck the brass was only 12.10 :x I think UPS is makeing a killing. Oh well at least I can start rollin my own :-D

BBF

22KHornet · « **Reply #49 on:** February 12, 2004, 10:32:06 AM »

Know what you mean I was going to order a target stand from Midway but the shipping was more than the stand :?: not sure what that was al about but i was not going to spend $35 bucks for a $17 stand. Hey BBF look into the remington 180 grainers they shoot well and are a lot cheaper for targets, or yotes, or cans, or milk jugs, or sheesh this list could take a little time :grin:

.308 · « **Reply #50 on:** February 12, 2004, 10:32:10 AM »

Quote from: BIGBOREFAN

Had to order my 357 max brass from Midway. Ordered the 100 pack for now. You now UPS shipping was 12.20 Heck the brass was only 12.10 :x I think UPS is makeing a killing. Oh well at least I can start rollin my own :-D
BBF

Sounds like somebody made a mistake on the shipping charges. I ordered, brass, bullets, a couple or three small Lee products, and a Williams sight and my shipping (Brown Truck) was between 8/9 bucks. Shucks my bullets weighed over 2 1/2 lbs. Oh well, at least you'll be rollin' yer own. :wink:

BIGBOREFAN · « **Reply #51 on:** February 12, 2004, 10:39:24 AM »

The reg shipping is 9.20 on any small items if the order is less than 25.00 then they tack on another 3.00 Would have ordered from Natchez but they were out and the guy said with Remington it could be 2 weeks or 2 months. Did not want to order anything else till my income tax comes back. I seen the Rem 180 SJHP they were 8.90 for a box of 100. The XTP's were 12.94 for a box of 100. I'll order some Rem. 180 later on and some 200 grainers as well.

BBF

.308 · « **Reply #52 on:** February 12, 2004, 10:49:57 AM »

Yeah, I forgot they have that minimum thing now. Once upon a time.......back in the good ole days Midway shipping was free, prices were a little higher but free shipping made up for it. Oh well, at least you'll be 'rollin' yer own.'

:wink:

BIGBOREFAN · « **Reply #53 on:** February 12, 2004, 10:55:09 AM »

Going Sat. to get primers and check and see what powder my local shops and Walmart have. Hope the reamer shows up tomorrow. :grin: I'm going to shoot the postal match with the 357 mag before I max it. I'll shoot a card afterwards and see which is more accurate.

BBF

338 · « **Reply #54 on:** February 12, 2004, 11:10:25 AM »

BBF, are you going to put a scope on your MAX?

BIGBOREFAN · « **Reply #55 on:** February 13, 2004, 02:16:10 AM »

Yes 338, I put the 3-9x40 off my 7mm-08 on it. It was sight in real good and with the 357 it was not off to much. Just need to fine tune it. Then see what kinda of groups I can get with it. Shooting standing up with a leaning rest at about 40 yards I could keep all them in a 3 inch circle. I know the gun will do better if the operator takes his time. After the postal match I plan on putting a 4x32 on it.

BBF

BIGBOREFAN · « **Reply #56 on:** February 13, 2004, 06:17:54 AM »

YES the reamer made it to WV :-D :-D :-D :-D

BBF

Badnews Bob · « **Reply #57 on:** February 13, 2004, 08:08:41 AM »

Roger That BBF, I think you'll like it, They don't smack ya like a 450 Marlin when you touch one off but you get a nice thump and the sound is all thunderIt'll open some etes at the range.

hope the weather holds so I can shoot mine some more this weekend.

BIGBOREFAN · « **Reply #58 on:** February 13, 2004, 08:28:54 AM »

Hey BNB what kind of dies are you useing. I will be useing the Lee carbide dies. It says you do not have to lube the cases. Is this right.

BBF

Badnews Bob · « **Reply #59 on:** February 13, 2004, 08:37:10 AM »

Yep Thats right I use the Lee carbide .357 dies with no lube, I use the factory crimp die also works great, In my four hole turrent I get all four dies set up with powder loading on the belling die those auto disk powder measures work great and relly cut time when your loading alot of rounds.